Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

[Nachomamma8]

Your defense is a lot of wifom.

Explaining my actions and giving my insight into why I've done what I've done this game isn't actually WIFOM.

Also, I think your rapid shift was an attempt to get Bert to label you as town, rather than actually being town. Bert should have been able to read you without a massive shift in gameplay.

It's a natural reaction to Bert coming in the game. In Mini Normal 1460, something similar happened. Bert (under alt Nachopappa) replaced in, and I stepped up my play considerably. He asked me about the change in style, and I answered:

I only stepped up my play in this game for you. I would've been fine being an enigma for a couple of days; I don't need to put in the time to get scum lynched, and original plan was to break out the insanity on day 2 or day 3, assuming I lived that long. Don't leave me out in the cold when I'm doing everything I do for you.

[Titus]

Well apparently changing your play to revolve around getting a townread from a player is possible from a town perspective. Yet, my gut screams you are scum for that. That post seems manufactued as if you expected this.

Brian, NS is not the type of player to wall. He is brief and concise but that opening looks a hell of a lot like his town games.

[Amrun]

VC 3.3

(1) Nachomamma8 - Shiidaji
(1) notscience - Nachomamma8
(1) Shiidaji - notscience

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Not Voting:

V/LA:

Deadline: Monday, September 23 at 10:30am EDT

Spoiler: Vote History

Shiidaji

- Nachomamma8

Brian Skies

- notscience > uvnote > notscience > unvote

Titus

- notscience > unvote

notscience

- Shiidaji

Nachomamma8

- notscience

If you spot any mistakes, please let me know.

Searching for a replacement for Shiidaji.

[Titus]

Brian, we need to lynch. Place your vote. I will sheep tonight.

[Brian Skies]

I'd still rather lynch notscience today. Nacho is a tunneler, and I don't find tunneling to be alignment indicative (unless it's clearly scum-motivated).

If we're wrong, we can always lynch Nacho/Shii tomorrow.

[Brian Skies]

Also, I just get the feeling notscience will flip scum.

[notscience]

If you get the feeling I will flip scum, why is part of your reasonings for lynching me today that I won't be able to hold my own tomorrow?

[Brian Skies]

Because I have Nacho and Shii as much stronger townreads than you. If you flip scum, game over. If you are town, I can reanalyze.

If I leave you in the game and you are town, I'd find it extremely difficult to not lynch you in LYLO.

[Brian Skies]

And if Shii gets replaced now, I will never know why he suspected Nacho.

[Brian Skies]

I'm actually dreading a replacement coming in 1 day before possible LYLO. I really really don't want a replacement coming in at this stage of the game.

[notscience]

Brian, here's the thing

You say you're confident I'm scum but then say "welll if he flips scum"

I am telling you straight up, one of your two confident townreads is wrong. I'm pretty sure it's shii.

Lynching me will make your decision WAY harder. You'll have a scum-replacement who can just be like "lolidk why my slot did that" to anything raised against them. You'll have Nacho who Titus thinks is scum.

Tell me how that is ANY easier then having me in there.

[Brian Skies]

See post 809.

And confidence has nothing to do with it. I'm looking for the best lynch. And right now, you aren't even looking like the best lynch anymore, Shii is. And guess what? HE'S MY BEST FUCKING TOWNREAD RIGHT NOW!

So, since I can't read you worth a damn, and I don't think I can get a good case between you and Nacho going, I'm just going to vote Shii in case he doesn't come back.

VOTE: Shii

Titus, let me know how you feel about the slots and who you want to lynch. I'm still willing to sheep you if you think I'm wrong. But replacements are no bueno.

[Brian Skies]

I think I'm just gonna sit here and second-guess myself until Titus decides to talk to me.

[Brian Skies]

Actually, no. I'm gonna be up for a while, so Titus can make the decision on who to lynch.

UNVOTE: Shii

[Shiidaji]

Prod picked up. I told you I'm not replacing out Amrun, I apologize, reading.

[Brian Skies]

Yayyyyyyyyyy!!!! <3 <3 <3

[Shiidaji]

He's pushing you (notscience) as scum today without taking a stance on me. That totally makes sense from a scum perspective - Scum!Nacho would know that ns would be a mislynch and that he'd be facing off against me in MYLO/LYLO tomorrow.

I haven't actually posted much today, but pushing notscience as scum sort of suggests I find you town, no?

It does, however the 'sort of suggests' bit where you didn't mention me until prompted leaves room for doubt from my point of view, it would make it an easier transition into D4 where a ScumNacho would have to face me.

admittedly Nacho's posting since then's dulled my scumread, in particular with 782 in his really specific thought process through the PR crumb, it's really ringing townvibes in my head even though ScumNacho could totally pull that off.

Brian, are you still here? Anyone else? I need sleep but I'll stick around for an hour or two for this, if I'm understanding the deadline we're on a tightrope.

[Shiidaji]

Yayyyyyyyyyy!!!! <3 <3 <3

: >

Brian, I'll respond to your wall later.

Do you still want this? I'm looking at the three again rn

[Shiidaji]

Yayyyyyyyyyy!!!! <3 <3 <3

: >

Brian, I'll respond to your wall later.

Do you still want this? I'm looking at the three again rn

[Brian Skies]

We're on a really tight rope. But I'm here even though I'm trying to get reading done and stuff. I'm gonna be up for a while so it's cool.

[Brian Skies]

Nobody has really responded to my walls, so I don't really care much about them anymore. I'm thinking mafiascum players just have a natural aversion to them.

[Brian Skies]

And besides, your wall is just a giant cluster of why I think you're probably town.

[Shiidaji]

mastin.

Do what you want while I'm still re-reading then. Looking at the VC unless we get Titus/ns popping in we can't lynch Nacho.

[Shiidaji]

Actually, can you detail what's making you think Nacho is town in the meantime? Maybe you're seeing something I'm not.

[Shiidaji]

Unvote, Vote: phokdapolees

Why, and why are you now "completely reassured" about notscience?

Brian - Do you think phok would say the latter about a buddy? As in, would he be the type to downplay someone reading his buddy as town whereas he'd normally just ask the first bit?