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In post 799, Eleven wrote:Pretty obviously a fake claim + flavour seems like a bunch of bullshit I'd say? Not sure you need reasons beyond that (Plz don't FAKECLAIM AS TOWN)In post 793, Your New Gay Overlords wrote:- Eleven: "Don't actually believe Reck's claim". Ok... why? Nope. Nothing.
This vote is what is mainly bugging me about Axxle, I think it stems from the fact that it comes straight after Fate and mollies conversation where Fate states CDB is scum. Now to be honest here, CDB's alignment is slight town to me at this point, I mean the only salient point is the whole mollie laughing thing which I remember and clearly understood it as a joke (especially since we weren't even 10 posts in). However back to the point, when mollie and fate had this conversation, I realised there was actually no case on CDB, then Axxle swooped in and put down a baseless vote. I either read from that he was looking for an easy wagon, supported by the YNGO vote, which whilst not baseless, was a bit meh, or he is psychic.In post 258, Axxle wrote:VOTE: CDB
Waffles seems town to me. I don't understand why she's asking some of her questions, but most are coming from a town frame of mind from what I can tell.
Appears I missed the reasoning post. It doesn't really change my reasoning at all.In post 276, Axxle wrote:Short answer: I wanted to move my vote somewhere useful and wasn't feeling any of the other wagons.In post 267, ChannelDelibird wrote: I would like for Axxle to explain his vote on me.
Long answer: Originally I just sheeped fate since that's easy. But looking at the current wagons I feel a lot better about it. Didn't want to vote for someone without a vote already, that includes cheery who only has rvs votes and eaglekit who hasn't posted yet. I don't really want to bother with Eleven/mollie/waffles. Triforce just got here and seem fine. I'm not going to sheep YNGO. The UT votes seem lazy and you happen to be one of them. You have the biggest wagon already.
He only *said* he didn't know, that doesn't mean he didn't know.Triforce wrote:If he claimed without knowing, then it's pretty unlikely that he's scum. As scum people generally want to iron out the details of their role/claim before they claim. The actual answer is irrelevant because of how loose the claim itself was.In post 270, Eleven wrote:Why? Think it's more natural to assume it would show up (It'd be super weird if it didn't, if he's scum he'd definitely assume it shows up as SECRET HAMMERER seems kind of retarded as a scum role).In post 261, Triforce wrote:Iec's claim is probably town regardless of if his name shows up on the hammer assuming he didn't know in the first place.
Why is it a bunch of bullshit. Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet. I mean if it is a fake claim, it would come from the mod, no? I mean I was in a game with Reck when he came up with a fake claim and asked the mod to give him flavor to fit it, so it would come from the mods.In post 803, Eleven wrote:Let's see, let me guess. Can't be the second part, already said that. Can't be the first part since I'm right. OKAY.
so I want to lynch this nowIn post 806, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet
All 3 are on my "meh, I'll develop a read later" list. (and so is practically everyone else)In post 798, Eleven wrote:Thoughts on waffles, prozac and gamma Cheery Dog?
In post 807, Untrod Tripod wrote:so I want to lynch this nowIn post 806, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet
<3In post 808, Cheery Dog wrote:All 3 are on my "meh, I'll develop a read later" list. (and so is practically everyone else)In post 798, Eleven wrote:Thoughts on waffles, prozac and gamma Cheery Dog?
Tammy, you skyped as twice while we were there, therefore you can be included as some form of at the meet. (even if what I remember about the skype calls was kayne)
Hmm. Tell you what, just ask mina what she thinks? Surprised she hasn't like actually discussed the claim with you since she had such a hard on for reck early. I don't think you need to have been at the meet to see that someone being hated and a beloved princess is somewhat contradictory, though. (Like, sure getting lynched Day 1 = hated? That's fine, I buy that. Getting lynched Day 1 lots = beloved princess is iffy....but both together seem conradictory to me)In post 806, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Why is it a bunch of bullshit. Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet. I mean if it is a fake claim, it would come from the mod, no? I mean I was in a game with Reck when he came up with a fake claim and asked the mod to give him flavor to fit it, so it would come from the mods.In post 803, Eleven wrote:Let's see, let me guess. Can't be the second part, already said that. Can't be the first part since I'm right. OKAY.
Also, just his demeanor reads town, so I'm a bit thrown off that you're SO SURE.
Plus what's the benefit of claiming a day one beloved princess only.
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Can you give me your strong reads in either direction then?In post 808, Cheery Dog wrote:All 3 are on my "meh, I'll develop a read later" list. (and so is practically everyone else)
CBD and Mollie are townIn post 813, Eleven wrote:Can you give me your strong reads in either direction then?In post 808, Cheery Dog wrote:All 3 are on my "meh, I'll develop a read later" list. (and so is practically everyone else)
take your fake self-pitying bullshit somewhere where people give a fuckIn post 809, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:In post 807, Untrod Tripod wrote:so I want to lynch this nowIn post 806, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
HEHEHEHEHEHE
HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
I'M GOING MAD.
I have no idea what mina thinks of my action dan vote. Since my question to her if I could vote him has gone unanswered anyway.In post 812, Eleven wrote:Hmm. Tell you what, just ask mina what she thinks? Surprised she hasn't like actually discussed the claim with you since she had such a hard on for reck early. I don't think you need to have been at the meet to see that someone being hated and a beloved princess is somewhat contradictory, though. (Like, sure getting lynched Day 1 = hated? That's fine, I buy that. Getting lynched Day 1 lots = beloved princess is iffy....but both together seem conradictory to me)In post 806, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Why is it a bunch of bullshit. Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet. I mean if it is a fake claim, it would come from the mod, no? I mean I was in a game with Reck when he came up with a fake claim and asked the mod to give him flavor to fit it, so it would come from the mods.In post 803, Eleven wrote:Let's see, let me guess. Can't be the second part, already said that. Can't be the first part since I'm right. OKAY.
Also, just his demeanor reads town, so I'm a bit thrown off that you're SO SURE.
Plus what's the benefit of claiming a day one beloved princess only.
If I ask the mods to give me flavour for ":D smiley, depressed townie", I'm sure they'd do it, it doesn't mean it'd be as convincing as their actual prewritten flavour for actual roles, so that point seems silly.
Also not sure how AP handles fakeclaims, I checked his 2 micros earlier for roles and such (I already knew he liked millers as he ran a game with 2 of them) and he had a habit of not posting full role pms at the end (at least in sabotage I think) which was irksome, so it doesn't seem that impossible he'd not even provide flavour just a list of safe things to claim ala a lot of mods.
(Last question is silly, it's a free day 1 get out of jail card, which isn't the worst claim in the world as scum, + me and reck have claimed vengeful as scum and survived it, sometimes you don't really think these things through?)
Anyway, zzzz. What does Mina think of your actiondan vote? Did she get around to reading him?
Anyway, pretty sure if I was super sure I'd be voting him! I do think it's LIKELY a fakeclaim though! He does seem tonally pretty town at times though, so yeah. *shrug*
In post 815, Untrod Tripod wrote:take your fake self-pitying bullshit somewhere where people give a fuckIn post 809, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:In post 807, Untrod Tripod wrote:so I want to lynch this nowIn post 806, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
HEHEHEHEHEHE
HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
I'M GOING MAD.
it's sure not doing what it's designed to do, at any rate, but if you want to keep scumtelling be my guest
In post 817, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:In post 815, Untrod Tripod wrote:take your fake self-pitying bullshit somewhere where people give a fuckIn post 809, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:In post 807, Untrod Tripod wrote:so I want to lynch this nowIn post 806, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:Speak slowly I'm barging in this game as I didn't go to the meet
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
HEHEHEHEHEHE
HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
I'M GOING MAD.
it's sure not doing what it's designed to do, at any rate, but if you want to keep scumtelling be my guest
Your buddying offer has been: AcceptedIn post 820, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:UT - If I didn't already think you were town, I'd call you town right now just because of how hard you made me laugh.
Damnit pie, you had to make a post I like, who the hell (sans Axxle) should I think is scum now.In post 556, InflatablePie wrote:so I don't quite know why people think CDB is scum? I mean I didn't really have a read on him for a while (there was onesmallthing that I caught that might've been scummy but other than that, nothing) but his posts the past day or twoish haven't struck me as scummy so unless I'm missing something he seems like some sort of... compromise wagon? is that the right phrase? I mean I may disagree with him (e.g. wagoning Nuwen 488) but nothing's jumped out at me that makes me want to lynch it.
I could go and see who's been pushing his lynch all lazy-like since it's probably more likely there's scum doingthatthan him being scum, but I can't be assed to right now because DRINKING so I'll believe and sheep whoever wants to do the hard work <3
but in the meantime Triforce vote is fine. I could maaaaybe vote Axxle or something because he's been pretty useless the past few pages but I feel like I've voted him for being useless and he's flipped town a bunchplusI already yelled at someone earlier for doing that so I dunno. ythan should shoot him if he has another shot IMO.
I dunno, I've seen "WIFOM Gamma" at least once or twice and this is what he's doing here, so I think he's pretty town (see: .In post 500, Your New Gay Overlords wrote:Also Gamma is givin me the willie nillies not because he's scummy but because he's being useful which is anti gamma meta. like it's not town or scum it's just not gamma
wish I could care more about this game but I'm just super lazy.
In post 791, Your New Gay Overlords wrote:I think, in general, people have a very hard time distinguishing behind "scummy" and "not super town". If something is scummy, it means there's inherent scum motivation/anti-town motivation behind what they're doing. I fail to see where anything I've done in this game specifically has inherent anti-town motivation.
My "throw my hands up and say fuck it" mentality that has plagued my town games recently have noticeably only been with town teams who refuse to engage in a dialogue about things. I can't remember the last time I had a case presented against me as town. Most of those games, when I ask for cases/points for me to debate, someone (*cough*FATE*cough*) starts screaming about how asking for points/cases to defend myself against is scum motivated and I should be lynched immediately. You'll notice, out of everyone who has passively or actively attacked me this game, literally only one of them has tried to present any valid reasons against me. That person was Axxle, and his one reason he cited ended up falling to shit when I quoted a post I had already made to provide context. He even unvoted me afterwards.
hey Reck do you remember in Shadow and Light when I kept asking what the cases were on me and people just kept saying I was scum without saying why? I mean you died kinda early on so I dunno if you were paying attention at that point, but anyway, this seems to be a common occurrence and it's not just youIn post 791, Your New Gay Overlords wrote:My "throw my hands up and say fuck it" mentality that has plagued my town games recently have noticeably only been with town teams who refuse to engage in a dialogue about things. I can't remember the last time I had a case presented against me as town. Most of those games, when I ask for cases/points for me to debate, someone (*cough*FATE*cough*) starts screaming about how asking for points/cases to defend myself against is scum motivated and I should be lynched immediately.