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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:08 am

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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:14 pm

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Twito, in all fairness to the mod, he posted in thread that he was planning on replacing you. If you didn't catch it while reading the thread, that's a pretty good indication that you should have been replaced.
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From my perspective, I have eliminated the possibility of both Twito and Coron as scum. If that's the case, they would win by lynching either me or CDB. CDB - do you concur?

That leaves me to decide whether CDB is the Vig or an SK and whether Twito or Coron is the last mafia.

I see only no option where we're not in LYLO.

I will be voting Coron unless I see a claim from him.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:06 pm

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HackerHuck wrote:From my perspective, I have eliminated the possibility of both Twito and Coron as scum. If that's the case, they would win by lynching either me or CDB. CDB - do you concur?
That would require one of us to vote for each other, as it is three to lynch, so I don't see how you can have eliminated the possibility yet. How have you reached this conclusion?
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:15 pm

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According to the rules, if there is a tie at deadline, the mod removes the most recent votes until there is one person with the most votes. That means the two scum need to place two votes on one person before the two town place their votes on one person.

If Twito and Coron are both scum, I can't understand why they would not have both voted for someone by now.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:19 pm

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That's because the most likely situation we have now is 1 scum, 1 sk and 2 townies.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:20 pm

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Hmm, that may be true but I wouldn't want to rely on that as definite evidence against the scumpair. That said I'm fairly certain that at least one of them is scum in some way, it's just a matter of deciding which one to vote for...
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:41 pm

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I think Coron needs to claim in order to make any further actions. Still leaning towards a CDB lynch though
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:34 am

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I don't see how a claim from me is nessisary or good.
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:59 am

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HackerHuck wrote:Twito, in all fairness to the mod, he posted in thread that he was planning on replacing you. If you didn't catch it while reading the thread, that's a pretty good indication that you should have been replaced.
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Caught it and posted after it before being replaced. Exactly my point.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:25 am

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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:11 am

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Idiot.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:18 pm

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I can't think of any situation where we're not at LYLO. Every way I run it, I'm better off picking between you and Twito/Kaleidoscope, even if CDB is the SK. You have given me no reason not to vote you and I don't think there's even that much risk if I'm wrong.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:36 pm

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I'm having a scenario in mind right now I'd like to have the imput from now:

Considering we are with 1 scum, 1 sk and 2 townies left, this game depends mostly on the upcoming night. If we lynch a scum this day, sk wins. Other way around as well (excluding possible town preventions at night). I'm seriously wondering if it maybe isn't better to go no lynch this day. I think if we do lynch this day, there might be too much of a risk of giving a side a jump ahead.
I look at it like this at the moment: the scum and sk have to shoot each other in order to win. If we lynch either one of them now, they have free play. They can't allow themselves to let the other one win. If they shoot each other succesful, town wins. In other situations, I don't see that much of a better situation.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:45 am

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If we go into tomorrow with one townie and one scum (mafia or SK) doesn't that mean a draw?

The only problem with that scenario, is that we're relying on CDB to hit scum for us. However, if I'm wrong about the draw then that does make the most sense to me.

Ultimately, what concerns me the most is the lack of voting by anyone else. It seems that most of you think I'm quite likely town. That means if any of you are townies, it would have made sense to initially vote for Coron/Twito. The lack of discussion (I'm going on Twito's actions) is disconcerting.
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:57 am

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How are you seeing the current situation then? If we lynch scum today, we will go into night, possibly with the SK. The SK just has to hit anyone for the win. That's the way I see it.

The reason I'm not voting yet is because I don't want to rush a Lylo
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:58 am

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Well, how I see it, and as I've already explained earlier, the kill be CDB is consistantly every other day, while the kill from the other group has been occasional at best, if we lynch someone other than CDB, CDB will win, if we lynch CDB we may or may not still have a chance, but I personally favor no lynch as well. Me claiming will not make a major difference to which one we pick imho.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:58 am

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Prod received, still here, just trying to decide whether I am voting Coron or Scope. Leaning towards Scope.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:59 am

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Day 6, 4 alive, 3 to lynch.

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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:19 pm

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Interesting how you ignore the discussed point CDB. Now I'm pretty certain that you are the sk.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:26 pm

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How often are SK's immune to NKs? That's one thing I didn't think about in my analysis.

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Who wins if we start tomorrow with one townie and one non-town aligned person?
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:33 pm

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Hacker, can you please eleborate your point of view on a no lynch. After that, I will cast my vote.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:15 pm

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If both you and Coron are scum and CDB is the SK, then I would lose with a no-lynch. I find that highly unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

I'm not strongly opposed to a no-lynch, especially if town loses in a draw with either scum. With a no-lynch, I do think it's essential for Coron to claim.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:20 pm

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2 scum seems impossible IMO... otherwise scum would have already won.

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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:39 pm

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HH if therewere 2 mafia alive, town couldn't lynch them anyway....
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:54 pm

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Very valid points. If that's the case, why isn't everyone in favor of a no-lynch?
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