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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:19 pm

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ZeekLTK wrote: Everyone knows everyone else's role.

You don't know my role. Vampyrus - I've narrowed it down to two people, definitively. Either Off the Mark or someone else. I'm not naming the other person as I doubt they'll be lynched and it would just get me killed. Besides, I'm more reasonably sure on OtM than the other one. In the odd case that OtM is actually human and I do still get night killed, I've breadcrumbed the second name in my posts. Once you see my role name it'll be obvious. So it's a win/win situation.


With OtM and this other person in the game come the Final Four, it'll be a 50/50 chance come the next vote. It may not seem like the best move short term, but in terms of winning the game for the humans OtM needs to be voted out today.
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:28 pm

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Sorin - you need to claim NOW. Everyone else has claimed.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:28 pm

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Also holding back on this "other person" is scummy.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:54 am

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ZeekLTK wrote:Yet we are stuck on 3 votes for a townie and 3 votes for an SK.

WTF?
Roach's vote is the only one that does not make sense. And since he can't grasp the concept of a cop whose results are incorrect, his suspicion of me is actually understandable.

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question to him: Roach, how could I prove to you that I roleblocked? You are asking for me to offer proof, so you must have something in mind. Finding scum via block and preventing an SK kill is not good enough?
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:01 am

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Sorry for the quadruple post, but I just thought of another question for Roach:

You now have a guilty investigation on me
and on Gatorguy
. Even if you are trusting in your own investigations, why would you vote for me over Gatorguy? I am claiming a power-role, and I have demonstrated that I am helping the town by catching Ryan. Gatorguy is claiming vanilla and doing nothing helpful.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:33 am

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If Roach isn't going to respond, then he needs to be replaced. Please? :wink:
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:58 am

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Well, seeing as I'm considered 'insane', I'll just have to trust my gut.

My N2 investigation gave me what I needed, and, for some odd reason, I believe I am NOT 'insane', 'paranoid', or 'quack'. Therefore, with previous plays from OtM, I believe that I'm forcing the scum to act NOW, since I might as well be putting one of their own in danger.
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:24 am

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Can you answer my question please? What would be proof to you of roleblocking?
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:26 am

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What would be proof is that you give me the RESULTS of your 'roleblock', then I'll reconsider.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:29 am

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Idea: Gatorguy, would you agree to lynch Sorin?
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:30 am

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You're completely avoiding my request, OtM.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:33 am

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Roach wrote:Well, seeing as I'm considered 'insane', I'll just have to trust my gut.

My N2 investigation gave me what I needed, and, for some odd reason, I believe I am NOT 'insane', 'paranoid', or 'quack'. Therefore, with previous plays from OtM, I believe that I'm forcing the scum to act NOW, since I might as well be putting one of their own in danger.
I'm wondering if maybe besides being an insane cop, you are just insane in general.

Not that you listen to logic, but I present:

#1: That post doesn't even make sense. "Trust your gut"? Why? How about trust the logic and evidence that has been presented that you are 100% NOT a sane cop and therefore your investigation is most likely incorrect.

#2: You didn't investigate on "N2" (but for your sake I'll assume you are talking about N3). But what did it "give you"? It gave you a guilty result on OTM. Okay fine, let's pretend for a second that there could be some way you are sane (there isn't, but we'll just pretend for a second)... you also got a guilty on Gatorguy - so why do you refuse to vote for him? You can't say "I got a guilty on OTM so I am going to vote for him" and also completely ignore a guilty result on another player at the same time.

#3: There is only one mafia left, so you are not forcing "them" to do anything. In fact, at this moment you are protecting them by stalling the game. Once we kill the SK (Gatorguy) then we can block the last mafia's kill at night and then lynch him tomorrow.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:34 am

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Hmm...but how do we KNOW Gatorguy is the SK and not the Miller?
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:34 am

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Roach wrote:What would be proof is that you give me the RESULTS of your 'roleblock', then I'll reconsider.
OTM has already said the results.

Night 2 he blocked ryan, the mafia did not kill on night 2, ryan was GODFATHER.

Night 3 he blocked Gatorguy, serial killer did not kill on night 3, Gatorguy will most likely be SK when we lynch him.


OTM I was about to ask the same thing, if maybe we should just lynch Sorin instead. :D
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:34 am

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Roach wrote:What would be proof is that you give me the RESULTS of your 'roleblock', then I'll reconsider.
A roleblock is not like a cop investigation. Here's how it works: I send the mod a PM at night with the player that I want to block. I do not get any feedback on whether or not my block successfully prevented anything during the night.

When morning comes, if I see something that I think I prevented, I can claim and announce to the town what I did. This is what happened. When I saw that my block on Ryan apparently prevented a scum kill, I claimed and told the town that Ryan was very likely scum. And sure enough, he was.

The lack of a mafia kill on the night I blocked Ryan, and the lack of a SK kill on the night I blocked Gatorguy. THOSE are my results.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:37 am

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Roach wrote:Hmm...but how do we KNOW Gatorguy is the SK and not the Miller?
Because I'm the miller and there is no way there are more than 1 millers in this game.
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:37 am

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Ah, very well.

Unvote


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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:37 am

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Roach wrote:You're completely avoiding my request, OtM.
Sorry about that, I hadn't seen your question when I posted my earlier response.
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:38 am

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Yay, that should be a lynch!
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:38 am

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Whew
Tigers ate my signature.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:41 am

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Can night please not last so long? I don't even know what the metagaming thing is (the reason for making the last night take so long) but there is no reason to make it take a week. Sorin is going to send in a kill, OTM is going to block it, and Roach will probably investigate vampy (since there is no reason to investigate him). That's it...

Shouldn't take that long!
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:45 am

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Let's hope it's that simple. It's still not 100% certain that Sorin is the remaining scum, but it's hard to imagine that not being the case. Actually, I have a new idea about who to block. I think it will help us.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:07 am

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It seems todays dusk is very long....
"So we're going to die then"
"Yes... Hang on a minute what's this?"
"Where"
"Only kidding, we're going to die after all..."
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:01 am

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I sent a PM to Stewie. Hopefully he can keep us movin' here.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:21 pm

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End of the Day Vote count


Gatorguy91 4(Off the Mark, ZeekLTK, vampyrusddg, Roach)
Off the Mark 1(SorintheSeeker91, Gatorguy)

And with that Gatorguy91 (Anti-Town) is lynched, and night starts. Send in choices where applicable.
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