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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:34 pm
by Klingoncelt
itlepip wrote:

The problem with kling is that she still hasn't responded to our accusations 300 posts ago.



And your question is...?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:35 pm
by Varsoon
Klingoncelt wrote:
Why do the weird posting, then accuse someone of rolefishing when they notice it?


Do not try to twist the truth.
You will find wisdom in this:

Elyse wrote:
You are fishing. I also called attention to Varsoon's strange posting, but I didn't flat out ask if he had a tragic role or was flavor posting like you did.


As for...

Klingoncelt wrote:
A Jedi you are not.


And you ceased to be one a long time ago.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:37 pm
by Klingoncelt
Passionate Storm wrote:

It seems you have thoughts on this game.



Yes, I do have thoughts on this game.

It would be great if I could focus on them instead of having to spend hours defending myself.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:38 pm
by Spifflop
Varsoon any other reads?

~Spiffy

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:39 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
itlepip wrote:
The difference is that they haven't made posts like 'fast wagons are made by scum' that are complete BS.

You think that fast wagons aren't often made by scum? Because I think that often enough they are. And the fact that she's claiming this makes me think she's town because why? Because she automatically assumes the leaders of her wagon are scum because she's town and thinks she's intentionally getting mislynched. Because as a mafia players, you don't automatically OMGUS people voting you, you distract or ignore or don't respond, like Elyse is doing. You find elsewhere. You stay out of the thread long enough that people bore of you and find something else eye-catching and then you come back and talk about how scummy that eye-catching thing is.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:39 pm
by Klingoncelt
Spifflop wrote:Are you claiming Town Doctor or are you talking about your role in Twilight Zone?

And if you think Titus is playing like she did in Twilight Zone you wouldn't be scum reading her because she was town in that game.

~Spiffy


I was the Doc in Twilight Zone.

I avoid claiming or crumbing roles in games that I'm active in.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:42 pm
by Klingoncelt
Spifflop wrote:Are you claiming Town Doctor or are you talking about your role in Twilight Zone?

And if you think Titus is playing like she did in Twilight Zone you wouldn't be scum reading her because she was town in that game.

~Spiffy


Chip/Xiao was playing like the King of All Scum throughout the game.

I was the DOCTOR and she was doing her damndest to get me lynched. How can the DOCTOR look like Scum? I was super ultra towny.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:44 pm
by Klingoncelt
itlepip wrote:No, but if Kling can't make an argument that isn't meta and the consensus of people who know the meta is that the meta makes kling scum, I think kling is scum.

Pedit: Explain how it isn't fishing instead of attack Varsoon please.


Read the post.

He baited for a response. He got a response and called it rolefishing.

Do you not get it?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:46 pm
by Varsoon
Spifflop wrote:Varsoon any other reads?

~Spiffy


I have a few.
Everything in due time.

You think you might be happier sketching caricatures?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:48 pm
by Klingoncelt
Elyse wrote:

P-edit: Ahhh. The long awaited half reads list full of blanket statements and a grand total of FOUR stances, two of which are only leans.


Some reads are leans. Since when has that been a cardinal sin?

I'm about to start on the next leg of reads, going through Eagle's walls will be a fukkin' nightmare.

Pity me.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:49 pm
by Passionate Storm
@EE -

First, who doyou believe is town reading Klingon due to her reads? Her reads are in 790. All posts after that say lynch her. Why do you believe her reads are legit? I don't see you having a rational posting here but having conclusions and fitting your beliefs to them.

As for Elyse, you should be able to summarize what is important in a paragraph or two. I can ask you what posts support which statements.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:50 pm
by Passionate Storm
Passionate Storm wrote:@Kling 773 and 777 please.


Klingon

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:53 pm
by Klingoncelt
Passionate Storm wrote:

Why include people you can't read?


Because if I didn't people would ask why I omitted them.

Why am I not there?


Because alphabetical order.

Why no strong stances?


Because you're not there.

Yet.

Why don't you have spiffehlop and itep reads!


Because alphabetical order.

I'm doing the Eagle next. I should make it as far as Itlpip at least by 3am. Because alphabetical order.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:54 pm
by Varsoon
Klingoncelt wrote:
What a weird post.

Are you posting in character/flavor
, or
do you have a tragic role?


Klingoncelt wrote:
Are you posting in character/flavor
, or
do you have a tragic role?

Klingoncelt wrote:
Are you posting in character/flavor

do you have a tragic
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Klingoncelt wrote:

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You. Are. Fishing.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:55 pm
by Klingoncelt
Varsoon wrote:
Klingoncelt wrote:
Why do the weird posting, then accuse someone of rolefishing when they notice it?


Do not try to twist the truth.
You will find wisdom in this:

Elyse wrote:
You are fishing. I also called attention to Varsoon's strange posting, but I didn't flat out ask if he had a tragic role or was flavor posting like you did.


As for...

Klingoncelt wrote:
A Jedi you are not.


And you ceased to be one a long time ago.


That hurts. :cry:

And I wasn't rolefishing. I don't give a fuck about your role.

Alignment, now that's another story. I'm hoping you're Town.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:58 pm
by Klingoncelt
Passionate Storm wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:@Kling 773 and 777 please.


Klingon


,

GreyGreen

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:59 pm
by Klingoncelt
Doing more of my reads list now. Back in several hours...

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:01 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:@EE -

First, who doyou believe is town reading Klingon due to her reads? Her reads are in 790. All posts after that say lynch her. Why do you believe her reads are legit? I don't see you having a rational posting here but having conclusions and fitting your beliefs to them.

As for Elyse, you should be able to summarize what is important in a paragraph or two. I can ask you what posts support which statements.


1. I believe it is possible Klingon's explanation for her RVS is relevant.
2. Her lack of reads is one hundred percent justifiable by the fact that she is being hounded for them consistently.

I am surprised to see you scum read and tunnel her so hard. It actually shocks me to think that you might fo this as town. I am quite tempted to vote for you right now, but even you, I don't think, are as worthy of a lynch as Elyse is as you showed when you indirectly defended her by taking the argument I made, attempting to defeat rather than discuss it (although I foolishly hoped for the latter) which shows you are willing to read my arguments, by the way, and then come and do this the way you're doing it right now.

No, I shouldnt read you out of my personal emotions, that's how I screw things up, but I lost my town read on you the moment you refused to respond to my rebuttal.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:04 pm
by Varsoon
Klingoncelt wrote:
Alignment, now that's another story. I'm hoping you're Town.


You will know the truth.
Tonight.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:06 pm
by Spifflop
Starting to think EE is a Klingon scumbuddy.

~Spiffy

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:07 pm
by Elyse
Klingoncelt wrote:
Elyse wrote:

P-edit: Ahhh. The long awaited half reads list full of blanket statements and a grand total of FOUR stances, two of which are only leans.


Some reads are leans. Since when has that been a cardinal sin?

I'm about to start on the next leg of reads, going through Eagle's walls will be a fukkin' nightmare.

Pity me.

You took the least important part of that post and made it your focus. What about blanket statements and four stances? I'm not criticizing you for having leans, but that HALF of your FOUR reads are leans, meaning you have two hard stances. It's scummy as hell.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:09 pm
by Passionate Storm
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:@EE -

First, who doyou believe is town reading Klingon due to her reads? Her reads are in 790. All posts after that say lynch her. Why do you believe her reads are legit? I don't see you having a rational posting here but having conclusions and fitting your beliefs to them.

As for Elyse, you should be able to summarize what is important in a paragraph or two. I can ask you what posts support which statements.


1. I believe it is possible Klingon's explanation for her RVS is relevant.
2. Her lack of reads is one hundred percent justifiable by the fact that she is being hounded for them consistently.

I am surprised to see you scum read and tunnel her so hard. It actually shocks me to think that you might fo this as town. I am quite tempted to vote for you right now, but even you, I don't think, are as worthy of a lynch as Elyse is as you showed when you indirectly defended her by taking the argument I made, attempting to defeat rather than discuss it (although I foolishly hoped for the latter) which shows you are willing to read my arguments, by the way, and then come and do this the way you're doing it right now.

No, I shouldnt read you out of my personal emotions, that's how I screw things up, but I lost my town read on you the moment you refused to respond to my rebuttal.


Actually answer my questions and include the post for the rebuttal and I will answer.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:10 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop wrote:Starting to think EE is a Klingon scumbuddy.

~Spiffy


Reads can change so fast when they oppose your strongly held opinions, can't they?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:11 pm
by Passionate Storm
Spifflop wrote:Starting to think EE is a Klingon scumbuddy.

~Spiffy


His refusal to indicate who is townreading Klingon made me suspect as well but I may have Jeanne talk to EE in a bit.

Jeanne and I both agree Klingon is scum but Jeanne has suspicions of Elyse. So her talking to EE may be more effective.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:23 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:
Actually answer my questions and include the post for the rebuttal and I will answer.

I like negotiating with you, you know that?

Passionate Storm wrote:@EE -

First, who doyou believe is town reading Klingon due to her reads? Her reads are in 790. All posts after that say lynch her. Why do you believe her reads are legit? I don't see you having a rational posting here but having conclusions and fitting your beliefs to them.

As for Elyse, you should be able to summarize what is important in a paragraph or two. I can ask you what posts support which statements.

1. I don't see any posts that actually changed, although I expected it, so that was a poor assumption on my part. Knowing she had
something
at least strengthened my read of her.

2. I don't know. At first glance they looked legit, I saw them in my PEdit. But I looked at them again and they look like she literally just iso'd everyone and picked what stood out. I am starting to think she's more likely to be scum. I'm still not more interested in her than I am in Elyse. She is FAR more dangerous.

My rebuttal post is