I don't get what you don't get. That read had existed from ETL ages before.
In post 594, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Dislike, dislike, dislike. Because in thread coaching would require there to be no Daytalk. Yet there is no way to determine whether scum have daytalk of not at this stage. I direct everyone to the wiki for Normal Standards …
The Wiki wrote: Mafia may have daytalk without an Encryptor as long as it is announced in the game's rules beforehand.
Yes, yes, that works so in theory. But I'm quite sure I've been in games with DayTalk without any announcement.
What's more concerning is ETL assumed no DayTalk but she could have asked about it in the thread.
In post 594, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I don’t like this because ETL is experienced enough to easily be able to look this up without prompting. Yet he / she (yeah, no gender indication in profile … so not going to assume) is happy to just assume away. Inside info leaking out subconsciously perhaps?
Erm... you seem to know a lot about ETL. Yet you had no information that ETL's a woman.
I already posted about it long ago. However, having taken a quick look on the thread before catching up shows more posts from him. I'll post my current read as I've caught up with the game.
In post 603, TehBrawlGuy wrote:The initial stats discussion between Ircher and Shotty. It felt like artificial, forced conflict rather than genuine. Their interactions still feel off to me.
Re-checked it. I remember being concerned about that and calling it "noise". Being further from those pages in time it feels more like a thing which can happen on early pages in any game.
In post 603, TehBrawlGuy wrote:Not particularly, no. I scumread him but he's not in my top 3, as you can see in the reads list I posted. Additionally, a lot of my read on him is relative to Ircher/Shotty. Scumflips from either of them would make me more sure on Titus, and less if they're Town. I'd rather see them die first - they're scummy on their own and help me read Titus.
I know it's sheer intuition but this sounded scummy. I often post that reasoning as scum so that I could be open for more wagons to compromize on later.
In post 603, TehBrawlGuy wrote: In post 577, Aneninen wrote:Also, I doubt scum-Ircher would go on with those hard-to read ISOs after the general dislike he got from almost everyone because of them.
What do you all think of this?
I disagree. I think if he had stopped after we said it wasn't going to give him townpoints, it would have been a clear indication he was only doing it for townpoints.
Ghhhhhhhhhhh.
Had he stopped, he'd be scumread by you. He didn't do so, and he's... scumread by you.
Regardless Of Card.
Eiao?
Shouldn't that logic have happened in the other way around?
In post 609, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
the first 4 alphabetically. I usually copy the list into excel and type notes but I get bored quickly. and yes I have done it before, when I don't have anything else to do and I'm excited about playing another game.
The first 4? Then I must be amongst the meta-ed. And you doesn't seem to engage me at all. Why?
What do you need to get used to? Large games?
In post 618, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:egg is also scum. his ISO does NOT look like town, whoever asked me that. it looks like scum trying to appease people and avoid rocking the boat.
Having checked your ISO I could see how few players you were actually trying to read.
In post 623, zakk wrote:the cy wagon has gotten stale of late, it's a bunch of me-toos, and a cy flip will tell us too little
the ircher wagon is the definition of a lazy wagon on probtown, buuuut it will tell us a lot based on flip, so i will abide it, HOWEVER
But you were on the Cy-wagon too!
In post 624, Persivul wrote:heur only has 4 more posts than cy. If you don't like the cy wagon because the flip wouldn't tell us much, why do you want a heur wagon?
Parrotting this.
In post 628, zakk wrote: In post 624, Persivul wrote:heur only has 4 more posts than cy. If you don't like the cy wagon because the flip wouldn't tell us much, why do you want a heur wagon?
i'm guessing this is rhetorical
Didn't like this answer.
Also, I'm a clever
parrot
pigeon. I don't repeat rhetorical questions.
In post 629, zakk wrote:see who jumps on, see how cy acts, see how much steam it gets, see what happens
Okay, that makes sense. And I guess you got no answers.
In post 638, zakk wrote:it's very clearly explained why i was voting cytheflyguy
it's very clearly explained why i am voting heur
Do you have a readlist?
In post 640, projectmatt wrote:I'm also still not a fan of the Ircher wagon. I mean, yes, the strange numbered system he has is pretty weak, but I'm pretty positive that most scum would not be so bold as to consistently post a bunch of "scored" reads that only he can understand, and insist that it's very important.
Finally, someone!
The scummiest thing I guess was the post linked right above from him. But I can see nothing scummy in those ISO-stats.
But why?
In post 640, projectmatt wrote:Same with EspeciallyTheLies. That said though, I think EspeciallyTheLie's accusation of Titus teaming Ircher is kind of weak.
That's not the only thing why doubts crept in.
Fzzzzzzzzzzzzt.
I really don't like these posts (and I could have linked anything nearby). Aronis did the same as scum with me in Netherspite's. Although he was faking a Jester. Muffinman looked similar on Day1 in a game took place ages ago. He was Mason with me.
In post 646, SethYazura wrote:I like how the ppl are still on my old posts, my first posts are roleplay, afterwards I made a post that is fucked up by my phone's autocorrect
Having checked your ISO I saw nothing about that autocorrect.
You seem to have been away and have hoped we'd leave your wagon. A pity it hasn't happened.
In post 646, SethYazura wrote:I said lynching sk as a mafia goon, not me lynching sk as a mafia goon, I did not mention who is the mafia goon, therefore it couldn't be anyone in this game.
You talked about an SK and mentioned mafia
goon
. Information instead of analysis.
In post 649, SethYazura wrote:At players who thought I am an sk and said the town could use me as a vig, that gave me an idea of a role that functions like an sk, but can win with any faction as long as it survives.
Whut?
In post 649, SethYazura wrote:This game has 21 players and thus it's completely possible that there is a second mafia or an sk in the game. Otherwise the game would be excruciatingly slow and would last two years. If the latter happens then the mod is either a nasty bastard or he completely sucks at creating a setup.
Possible =/= sure.
There are large games with one single scum faction. Firstly, Vigs can speed the things up. Secondly, if the town's playing terribly, LyLo can come much earlier.
Going on soon.
And there will be shorter catch-up posts.
I have not enough time for producing these walls. And most of you're going to be unwilling to read them.
