In post 580, mbaki wrote:Chen Dann feels SvS, anybody else? That level of confidence from a player of Chenn's caliber is unwarranted, and feels wrong.
In post 588, RadiantCowbells wrote:so what you think chennis is trying to bait the lynch as the 8ball and spew dannflor town going down?
This doesn’t seem plausible
Chenn is a horrible player and gets mislynched a lot. Probably also the case here. He’s obviously wrong but lean to bad town over scum.
Rn, trying to decide between you and Overkill11.
You’re both objectively scummy.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:38 am
by NanceFloor
In post 646, mbaki wrote:If I thought Chennisden was scum, I would be voting them. They are and have been closer to town. Just, if they are scum, there is good partner equity for Dann, who I also do not have as a town read.
I am holding my reads as much as I can. I am town, and it is a waste to pursue me right now.
I’m leaning Overkill11 rn. Him calling you scum 8 ball pinged me.
I think I’ve caught half the scum team so far:
Overkill11 and TD. Not sure about the the rest yet, probably after I see some flips.
In post 698, 0verki11 wrote:Ankamius's supposed 'tunneling' of me is strange in the fact its 'Lynch the shitter' arguement when theres multiple other people with very little content.
+ the tunnel isnt putting any pressure on me and is just beginning to be repetitive which I probably should check other games for similar things
I’ll know Ank is town when she reads me one way or another for actually AI things. I’m still waiting for that. I’m not caring too much for you mbaki push. Scum is probably most likely in slots driving agendas. My gut is still screaming at me that TD is scum.
~N
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:53 am
by mbaki
This is the problem, Taly. Overkill posts some terrible LHF posts. Then Nancy replies with some terrible LHF reads and responses. Meanwhile, she's calling out other terrible LHF posters.
This is readable, yes, but it's not fun to play games like this.
I’d like it to be TD obviously. I have a hard gut sr on that slot. I just think their entire progression and read on us is fake. Nothing about it seems to come from a town process. Their play kind of reminds me of scum!Pervival in TRO. And I wound up being right about them. I have the exact same feeling on TD.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:00 am
by NanceFloor
So...
I'm town reading Overk1ll right now, to be clear, I'll explain why when I put together my reads list today
- Floor
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:02 am
by NanceFloor
In post 807, mbaki wrote:This is the problem, Taly. Overkill posts some terrible LHF posts. Then Nancy replies with some terrible LHF reads and responses. Meanwhile, she's calling out other terrible LHF posters.
This is readable, yes, but it's not fun to play games like this.
Okay, so yeah I can see Overkill11 being possible mislynchbait.
VOTE: Time Devil
I can’t see how this is town.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:10 am
by Taly
Spoiler: This spoiler encompasses replies to 4 Chenn Posts / 1 mbaki / 1 Dann / 1 Overki11 / 1 Fusc / 1 Confbias Who Repped But Should Be Read
In post 548, RadiantCowbells wrote:how would you guys feel if you had repeatedly asked someone to leave you alone and they insisted on joining your games and using secret alts to evade being wotmed?
RC I can understand you are frustrated but please let's lynch scum. Dann is scum let's lynch him please
I'd like to hear why
Dann
is the more notable reason to scumread
Nancefloor
, as I find more issue with
Nancy's
posts for reasons that I will not answer immediately after this post when she feels compelled to ask.
In post 543, Confirmation Bias wrote:You’ve also seen town me a few times now, I believe, so what makes you see that differently?
Looks advantage seeking, if you know what i mean. agenda based.
anyway if you are town kill scum with me.
Sure. You think Nancy replaces out here as scum? I generally like to think RC vs FL comes off as good for scum (i n the end it normally isn’t, I don’t think the combination of RC and I have ever lost besides one newbie game, but I won’t get into that game.)
Replace-outs and threats to replace-out are, and will always be, NAI.
Nancy
threatened to replace-out in
Merchant's Daughter
as scum, but people townread her for it.
There's nothing AI by
Nancy
replacing out and then lol-replacing-in even if her in-thread reasons for doing so were injected with emotion. 529
are you being confident to get people to sheep you
or you are you very sure that this flips scum to the point where you are willing to sabotage the future to get this lynched asap
im v sure this flips scum.
Even if you think so, why not answer them?
You've stated you had an idea over an
Oka
read, but this is the most eye-catching post about your scumread of them these past few pages.
In post 635, chennisden wrote:Let's all get off our vanity wagons and actually lynch someone. We have 4 days and no consensus.
you're looking for a consensus, but
Oka's
been a gamelong consensus for virtually no reason other than 2 people giving a definitive scumread amidst the multiple on/off
Why not entertain
overki11
or
mbaki
as they've acquired attention?
In post 646, mbaki wrote:If I thought Chennisden was scum, I would be voting them. They are and have been closer to town. Just, if they are scum, there is good partner equity for Dann, who I also do not have as a town read.
I am holding my reads as much as I can. I am town, and it is a waste to pursue me right now.
If you think
Chenn
is closer to town, why did you bring up an idea of them being SvS with
just click on the post link for full post damnit ~taly
625 is wolfy and I cant really see any town motivation behind the post, im saying its a possbilty although unlikely (ish)
I havent played with them before, and will have a quick look at their playstyle later
townread remained for the past 400 posts, if so, why?
In post 774, Fuscosco wrote:Like I dont particularly like being SRed by you in every freaking game you hop in.
why do people care so much about being scumread?
Does this affect your read of
Ank
and do you have any opinion on
Chenn/Oka/mbaki/overki11/nancefloor
these past few pages?
p-edit
mbaki
, you've given reasons for your mentality toward the whole playerlist over two to three slots. I don't know if that's the whole reason.
What's an example of playing a fun game? :3 Level with me.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:15 am
by NanceFloor
In post 812, Taly wrote:Dann, are you feeling de-motivated? I thought you'd be attempting to gamesolve more directly with the thread here...
I was feeling somewhat so at that point. But I feel better today and I'll get my reads list going as well. (I'll also stop talking about it and just do it after this post)
That vote was just because I wasn't completely happy with the one on TD and I wanted to show support for RC at the time. I was still interacting directly with the thread and trying to sort at the time outside of that vote so I'm unsure what you're getting at.
- Floor
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:17 am
by Taly
*scribbles in notes:
"how do i approach or engage with creature and clemency to read them more effectively"
In post 812, Taly wrote:Dann, are you feeling de-motivated? I thought you'd be attempting to gamesolve more directly with the thread here...
I was feeling somewhat so at that point.
But I feel better today and I'll get my reads list going as well. (I'll also stop talking about it and just do it after this post)
That vote was just because I wasn't completely happy with the one on TD and I wanted to show support for RC at the time. I was still interacting directly with the thread and trying to sort at the time outside of that vote so I'm unsure what you're getting at.
- Floor
the bolded is what im getting at, ty for coming to my ted talk
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:21 am
by Fuscosco
In post 812, Taly wrote:why do people care so much about being scumread?
I didnt answer them about it, but i feel a certain hostility towards me that i dislike, more than an actual scumread.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:23 am
by Fuscosco
In post 812, Taly wrote:Does this affect your read of Ank and do you have any opinion on Chenn/Oka/mbaki/overki11/nancefloor these past few pages?
i got home half hour ago, will read tonight.
reminding myself to discuss td/nancefloor
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:28 am
by Nancy Drew 39
@Taly, I was being tunnelled in that game by Fire and wanted to avoid a temp ban. I rep’d out here for the exact reasons I claimed. And if you would bother to read DnD mafia game, I seriously doubt you’d be sr us for it. And fyi, at least Math wasn’t actively antagonizing RC like FL was, so I really don’t see how the two situations have anything at all in common.
Like I think you’ve got it wrongly stuck in your head that AtE is scum indicative for me, it’s not. I don’t fake my emotions and the replace out should be correctly viewed as NAI.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:30 am
by NanceFloor
In post 818, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@Taly, I was being tunnelled in that game by Fire and wanted to avoid a temp ban. I rep’d out here for the exact reasons I claimed. And if you would bother to read DnD mafia game, I seriously doubt you’d be sr us for it. And fyi, at least Math wasn’t actively antagonizing RC like FL was, so I really don’t see how the two situations have anything at all in common.
Like I think you’ve got it wrongly stuck in your head that AtE is scum indicative for me, it’s not. I don’t fake my emotions and the replace out should be correctly viewed as NAI.
In post 812, Taly wrote:Dann, are you feeling de-motivated? I thought you'd be attempting to gamesolve more directly with the thread here...
I was feeling somewhat so at that point.
But I feel better today and I'll get my reads list going as well. (I'll also stop talking about it and just do it after this post)
That vote was just because I wasn't completely happy with the one on TD and I wanted to show support for RC at the time. I was still interacting directly with the thread and trying to sort at the time outside of that vote so I'm unsure what you're getting at.
- Floor
the bolded is what im getting at, ty for coming to my ted talk
Just ftr, I wouldn’t have replaced back in if RC had been the one to replace out, which is what I was expecting to happen. Had I known that the mods were going to handle it the way they did, I would have never even considered replacing out.
~Nancy
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:39 am
by Taly
Nancy
, did any part of my post say that you were scum for replacing out here in 812? Or you were scum for AtE?
These were my exact words.
Taly wrote:
There's nothing AI
by Nancy replacing out and then lol-replacing-in even if her in-thread reasons for doing so were injected with emotion. 529
You come to conclusions and make assumptions that aren't there, and I don't think you're reading my posts thoroughly. THIS is a reason why I'm scumreading your slot.
You did this all page 5 and shifted your focus on me the second I unvoted you
(which wasn't a scumreading vote)
and it was mentioned that I was likely town by someone else. You and
Dann's
early-strong townread on me does not feel congruent to your approach and I'm not going to do another back-and-forth with you if you're more focused on trying to find suspicion or a resolution in my posts outside of the content I give.
, did any part of my post say that you were scum for replacing out here in 812? Or you were scum for AtE?
These were my exact words.
Taly wrote:
There's nothing AI
by Nancy replacing out and then lol-replacing-in even if her in-thread reasons for doing so were injected with emotion. 529
You come to conclusions and make assumptions that aren't there, and I don't think you're reading my posts thoroughly. THIS is a reason why I'm scumreading your slot.
You did this all page 5 and shifted your focus on me the second I unvoted you
(which wasn't a scumreading vote)
and it was mentioned that I was likely town by someone else. You and
Dann's
early-strong townread on me does not feel congruent to your approach and I'm not going to do another back-and-forth with you if you're more focused on trying to find suspicion or a resolution in my posts outside of the content I give.
Yeah but I just think your phrasing “lol replacing” back in makes me question that. If I was wrong about that, then I’m sorry. However, nothing about that is remotely AI for me. I mix up stuff all the time and you should never be sr me for that.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:52 am
by NanceFloor
P.edit. I don’t think you’re scum here Taly, so I don’t know what more you want me to say. Yeah, I do tend to be automatically suspicious of people sr me. Show me a game, where that hasn’t been the case? Is it good play? Maybe not but you should know if you’re at all familiar with my meta, it’s completely NAI for me.
Now that I’ve reasessed, I st tr you, here.
So, maybe that’s what you ought to be looking at then. Do I reassess my reads with good reason or don’t I?
Nothing has changed for me about TD, they are still my strongest scumread in this game.
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:01 am
by Taly
Why do you townread me? You can give meta as a reason but I don't just want to hear meta.
I'd ask
Dann
too but I presume he'll just incorporate it in his readslist.
Could you also link the posts that outline your major points about
Time Devil
?
And why is
Overki11
a townread? Lynchbaity is not a read nor is it usually a strong reason to back up one.