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Post Post #5687 (isolation #800) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:02 am

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In post 5684, CloudKicker wrote:Thats the most ridiculous conclusion you could go for sakura. Theres a pattern of kill in this game where either mafia faction could not make their factional kill.

Plus, I used it too so what gives
Nothing confirms that.
But i trust in the fact that i activated BP and there were no deaths.
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Post Post #5688 (isolation #801) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:02 am

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Right after you asked me to NOT use BP, MIND YOU.
I had a feeling that you could be scum asking me to not BP so you could shoot me.
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Post Post #5690 (isolation #802) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:06 am

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In post 5689, CloudKicker wrote:Sakura, you are the last person I would hit on this table both mechanically and player wise
The last time someone told me something like this they flipped scum.
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Post Post #5692 (isolation #803) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:06 am

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In post 5691, CloudKicker wrote:Maybe sakura ure mafia for trying to hit me, so you claim BP to hard CC me ? Obvious!!
If you think that then come at me and let our flips do the talking.
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Post Post #5694 (isolation #804) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:08 am

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In post 5693, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5690, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5689, CloudKicker wrote:Sakura, you are the last person I would hit on this table both mechanically and player wise
The last time someone told me something like this they flipped scum.
thats untrue, since i am the last player who told you
Now you're just pretending to be silly.
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Post Post #5702 (isolation #805) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:23 am

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VOTE: Alisae
Im not done with you CK.
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Post Post #5709 (isolation #806) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:28 am

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macho means they cant be protected from nightkills.
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Post Post #5712 (isolation #807) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:30 am

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In post 5707, CloudKicker wrote:Btw I lied about being BP’d last night, I needed a little push to help flip sakura’s wild confirmation bias
Assuming i'd have believed you.
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Post Post #5729 (isolation #808) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:44 am

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Why are we assuming scum cant multitask in a theme game?
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Post Post #5731 (isolation #809) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:45 am

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Also why are we assuming there's 1 scum left?
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Post Post #5734 (isolation #810) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:48 am

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Oh, i didnt read that, nevermind then.
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Post Post #5736 (isolation #811) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:50 am

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In post 5735, Bambi Jay wrote:
In post 5731, Sakura Hana wrote:Also why are we assuming there's 1 scum left?
4 dead scum already in a 19p with no third parties. (2 Aeon 2 Simotech)

Do you assume Simotech AND Aeon both got 3 members?
I thought that's what we all assumed?
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Post Post #5737 (isolation #812) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:51 am

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Now im even more confused
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Post Post #5745 (isolation #813) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:02 am

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In post 5743, CloudKicker wrote:The thing that makes no sens is alisae going on sakura
Yeah i dont get it either.
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Post Post #5775 (isolation #814) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:24 am

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See Ali the thing is.
There was no deaths, i used BP and you targeted me, and if i had been the target even while BP, you'd have died.
So with the way things are either you targeted me for a nightkill or scum no killed.
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Post Post #5778 (isolation #815) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:31 am

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If you were roleblocked you wouldnt have been seen going anywhere.
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Post Post #5784 (isolation #816) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:38 am

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@Mod: Would someone roleblocked be seen visiting their target?
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Post Post #5785 (isolation #817) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:39 am

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In post 5782, Alisae wrote:Look
I think its correct to just lynch me

I think the last scum are Bambi and Cloudie, thats just what makes sense
Granted if Bambi is scum she could be lying about the track.
But i dont think Bambi is scum, why do you?
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Post Post #5797 (isolation #818) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:45 am

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Well here's your roleblocker
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Post Post #5801 (isolation #819) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:48 am

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I recall he SR CK, that's why i came at him hard start of D2.
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Post Post #5803 (isolation #820) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:52 am

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And he start coming at me with all these "We should be mechanically confirmed to each other" and stuff.
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Post Post #5810 (isolation #821) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:11 am

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This is quite the mess.
And here I thought I had figured it out.
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Post Post #5812 (isolation #822) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:13 am

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I feel like I should just trust RC, Rainn and Ali and vote CK.
But I feel like if i dont lynch Ali with all the evidence against her, im being an idiot.
I also feel like not lynching RC's SR is also me being an idiot.
I don't want Fallout 4 Mafia all over again
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Post Post #5819 (isolation #823) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:17 am

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I think im starting to pick on bee's townreads of fatalism.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #5821 (isolation #824) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:18 am

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In post 5818, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5812, Sakura Hana wrote:I feel like I should just trust RC, Rainn and Ali and vote CK.
But I feel like if i dont lynch Ali with all the evidence against her, im being an idiot.
I also feel like not lynching RC's SR is also me being an idiot.
I don't want Fallout 4 Mafia all over again
Ugh, decissions.
RC was wrong and misread me on wrong associations, I also shared RC's primate fos.

RC also put wheme and FTR as his offset reads, both fliped town so he was being extremely inaccurate
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Post Post #5823 (isolation #825) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:19 am

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VOTE: CK
I'm just gonna vote here and call it a day.
I'm tired of you discreding RC's reads.
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Post Post #5849 (isolation #826) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:35 am

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I mean im VT too, VT's are bulletproof here.
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Post Post #5860 (isolation #827) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:39 am

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In post 5856, CloudKicker wrote:IDK if anyone noticed but Alisae basically coasted the whole game up until she was mechanically the most reasonable lynch, then she claims she agrees with her lynch but changes her tunes and shades many slots including myself and bambi.

Thats scummy
Would you rather she not contribute and get herself lynched?
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Post Post #5867 (isolation #828) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:45 am

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In post 5865, Alisae wrote:
In post 5862, CloudKicker wrote:Because me calling sakura for being irrationnal in her voting is not town, how so alisae?

She just voted me for discredit RC's wrong reads, don't you think its irrational ?
Because you're attacking her
the way you phrased it, it was an attack with the only intention to make Sakura hate herself
He's been doing that all game Ali.
Every single time i scumread him, he counters with insults
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Post Post #5870 (isolation #829) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:46 am

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Discrediting a correct read.
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Post Post #5872 (isolation #830) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 4123, Sakura Hana wrote:Remember this?:
In post 1683, CloudKicker wrote:also sakure dont even imply that you are capable of independently doubting anything
It's just insults
In post 1956, CloudKicker wrote:you should be the single slot who should townread me the most because we are almost mechanically cleared to each other, but you are so blind that i need to state that for you
More insults.
In post 3818, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 3816, Sakura Hana wrote:Nor why you are so sure i am town.
Exactly, you dont even understand a basic pov tell
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Post Post #5873 (isolation #831) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 5871, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5870, Sakura Hana wrote:Discrediting a correct read.
what read were correct?
The one on you.
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Post Post #5878 (isolation #832) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:51 am

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In post 5876, CloudKicker wrote:Play for your win con
I am dude, you've been off like the entire game, you've been SR by supposedly good scumhunters the entire game and somehow you're still living.
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Post Post #5881 (isolation #833) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 5879, Alisae wrote:1) Well you can't go wrong with RC late game. Cloudie can say his reads were shit all he wants, thats what he has to do. But the fact still stands, many times do people not go over RC's iso late game and decide "I am going to follow this." It doesn't really happen most people don't think to do it. So wynaut try it?
I made the mistake of not double checking RC's reads in fallout mafia, never again.
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Post Post #5884 (isolation #834) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:01 am

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In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add
"Oh hey, he was wrong on a read, so ill use that to discredit his read on me"
Said Cloudkicker with confidence.
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Post Post #5885 (isolation #835) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:01 am

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And if aything
IF ANYTHING
he said YOU WERE SCUM IF UNWND FLIPPED TOWN FFS
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Post Post #5886 (isolation #836) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 1855, Celestial Coordinates wrote:If this is town it's like [bambi jay, primate,
CK
, unknown]
Dont pretend you cant read.
So stop your BS with your associative read thing.
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Post Post #5889 (isolation #837) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 5887, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5884, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 5883, CloudKicker wrote:1) RC's read on me was that I HAD SvsS INTERACTIONS WITH A TOWN SLOT. His read had a false premise and it was WRONG. His reads were inaccurate this game, theres nothing more to add
"Oh hey, he was wrong on a read, so ill use that to discredit his read on me"
Said Cloudkicker with confidence.
It doesnt mean his other read have any more change at being right than any fucking read on the read of the table lmao, blinded fangirl who cant think for herself
Oh i AM thinking and i see discredit of dead people right here right now.
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Post Post #5894 (isolation #838) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:08 am

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In post 5893, CloudKicker wrote:@Sakuara ; What about Fish townreading me ? And Gamma? Gamma was correct on OS so he MUST be correct on his other reads right
Deflection.
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Post Post #5899 (isolation #839) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:13 am

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"Instead of looking at this correct town with an incorrect flipped read, why dont you look at these incorrect towns with correct flipped reads"
Said Cloudie trying to deflect Sakura's attention
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Post Post #5926 (isolation #840) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:30 am

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Ali's a smart one.
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Post Post #5932 (isolation #841) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:34 am

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VOTE: RP
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Post Post #5933 (isolation #842) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:34 am

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In post 5928, Bambi Jay wrote:Oh thank god you figured it out. I thought I had to spell it out as well.
Nah it's ok i figured it out.
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Post Post #5943 (isolation #843) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:39 am

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In post 5936, Dunnstral wrote:Who has the green letter that redpanda hands out?
I got one some days ago.
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Post Post #5945 (isolation #844) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:39 am

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In post 5940, CloudKicker wrote:I had fish the day he was lynched
I thought he said he didnt send one that day?
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Post Post #5953 (isolation #845) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:45 am

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In post 5951, CloudKicker wrote:Hm no, i was saying maybe he cant send the letter to the same person every night. I asked that a while ago and i dont remember the answer
He said he can yesterday
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Post Post #5965 (isolation #846) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 1971, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1968, Sakura Hana wrote:I'll leave you be for now
VOTE: RedPanda
Wrong vote, seriously, move your vote onto primate and read RP's ISO. Primate's is RC's read as well so you shouldnt have a problem going there
In post 1973, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1972, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1971, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1968, Sakura Hana wrote:I'll leave you be for now
VOTE: RedPanda
Wrong vote, seriously, move your vote onto primate and read RP's ISO. Primate's is RC's read as well so you shouldnt have a problem going there
He got some explaining to do.
He has nothing to explain, all you do is fish for information you shouldnt want out
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Post Post #5966 (isolation #847) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:06 pm

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You know, it's KINDA funny how RC is correct when his SR is the one CK SRs and not himself.
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Post Post #5967 (isolation #848) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:06 pm

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In post 5964, CloudKicker wrote:The mod mentionned he wanted to try out a setup where masons change alignement mid-game, i remember someone said that and linked a post. I have just been remembering and it irks me
Then remember harder coz that's not what happened.
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Post Post #5969 (isolation #849) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 5968, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 5966, Sakura Hana wrote:You know, it's KINDA funny how RC is correct when his SR is the one CK SRs and not himself.
I firgured your would fos your 2nd hydra head if RC said so, so i tried to manipulate you into voting mafia, sooo scummy
Oh noes, you tried to manipulate me into voting Aeon instead of Simotech, wooow
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Post Post #5970 (isolation #850) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:17 pm

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I love how you're calling what Primate flipped "mafia" and think that means it clears you.
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Post Post #5972 (isolation #851) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:20 pm

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That post was from back when there were no Aeon flips tho.
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Post Post #5973 (isolation #852) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:21 pm

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I'm not gonna explain it to you anyway, you're just trying to twist my words as evidenced. I'll just pray that town sees where im going at.
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Post Post #5978 (isolation #853) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:31 pm

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In post 5975, Bambi Jay wrote:We're gonna win fellas as long as we don't fuck up now.
Yeah ik.
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Post Post #5991 (isolation #854) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:43 am

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If Ali was strongman i'd be dead.
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Post Post #5993 (isolation #855) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:45 am

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I... forgot about that.
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Post Post #5995 (isolation #856) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:46 am

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In any case i still dont think Aeon can kill.
Which makes me wonder if it's possible OS was the last Simotech
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Post Post #5997 (isolation #857) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:54 am

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In post 5996, RedPanda wrote:if aeon can't nightkill, this game would be a bitch to play as scum. how many mislynches do u need to win the game?
That's probably why they have joint wincons with simotech?
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Post Post #5999 (isolation #858) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:04 am

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In post 5998, RedPanda wrote:Yeah but simotech is wiped out and if aeon still doesn't have access to simotechs nightkill or they dont gain their own nightkill, that game would be bullshit.
Ok i get that.
But why would that give Aeon a strongman.
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Post Post #6000 (isolation #859) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:06 am

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In post 5994, RedPanda wrote:also Is the case on me that u think cloudkicker is lying about getting my letter?
Also about this.
I think you would've sent letter instead of NK, considering the NK is nowhere unless ali's scum.
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Post Post #6003 (isolation #860) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:13 am

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In post 6001, RedPanda wrote:I just feel because there are two roles which specifically mention a strongman in their ability. A50 and now alisaes claimed role, it just makes more sense for there to be multiple strongmans or atleast a backup strongman. What happens if oversoul was lynched day 1 and then alisae or A50 are always enraging with gamma supplying them serum.
Well then sucks to be scum if that happens to them.
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Post Post #6004 (isolation #861) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:14 am

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If they cant carefully prevent their strongman from dying then it's on them.
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Post Post #6006 (isolation #862) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 6005, RedPanda wrote:but this is multi scum. clearly Aeon and simotech don't know each other. You accept that that is balanced?
I mean, i dont see any hints of their being a strongman much less a nightkill on Aeon's side.
In post 6005, RedPanda wrote:u are sounding susp now.
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Post Post #6015 (isolation #863) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:56 pm

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Damn i guess everyone in this game is a VT with an ability.
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Post Post #6017 (isolation #864) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:11 pm

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In post 6012, RedPanda wrote:The neighborizers are just VT's in the game. I am a VT also just with a modifier because of my identity.
Just was snark replying to this.
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Post Post #6019 (isolation #865) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:16 pm

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In post 6018, RedPanda wrote:There are 3 people claiming VT with BP and three people confirmed to be sending letters. In a 19 player game where are the VT's??
We call ourselves VT coz it's the same as the sample role PM.
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Post Post #6023 (isolation #866) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:59 pm

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In post 6021, CloudKicker wrote:I disagree with the lynch; redpanda can send letters everynight so hes not a priority lynch
of course you do.
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Post Post #6030 (isolation #867) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:53 am

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And ali just towntold.
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Post Post #6032 (isolation #868) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:12 am

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In post 6031, CloudKicker wrote:Its very doubtful a real BG would forget this PoV
What is very doubtful is that scum Alisae would forget this PoV.
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Post Post #6033 (isolation #869) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:13 am

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But it's ok, you're getting caught i understand that you need to latch onto anything to survive.
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Post Post #6042 (isolation #870) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:53 am

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Like, if you had actually looked like a towny this entire game i'd be more willing to believe that you believe that ali scumslipped, but it looks to me like you're just looking for reasons to scumread people rather than trying to sort them, and as soon as i said that it was a towntell for ali you switched gears to "oh hey this person lied".
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Post Post #6045 (isolation #871) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:26 am

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Yeah keep insulting me that's certainly gonna change my mind.
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Post Post #6047 (isolation #872) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:23 am

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You're forgetting the possibility of scum being unable to kill.
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Post Post #6051 (isolation #873) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:57 pm

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In post 6050, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 6047, Sakura Hana wrote:You're forgetting the possibility of scum being unable to kill.
Lack of serum?
or there's 1 aeon left and aeon cant nk.
But yeah.
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Post Post #6054 (isolation #874) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:34 pm

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but Aeon and Simotech can joint? the win conditions seem to hint towards that since they dont rely on the other being dead.
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Post Post #6071 (isolation #875) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:56 pm

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IIrc almost said somehting about becomeing ascetic on odd nights, nothing of the such has happened to me or it's not something im informed of.
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Post Post #6077 (isolation #876) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:11 pm

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In post 6075, CloudKicker wrote:MariaR role is basically fruit vendor and is only useful to prove themaelves as non-visiting.
Actually it was a messenger (mailman?)
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Post Post #6085 (isolation #877) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:27 pm

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Kid started with an upkeep tho.
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Post Post #6086 (isolation #878) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:28 pm

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There's still the thing where i got fired and the mod explicitly told me my alignment didnt change.
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Post Post #6089 (isolation #879) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:59 pm

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A50 didnt flip ascetic, he claimed that they MADE him ascetic.
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Post Post #6114 (isolation #880) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 6086, Sakura Hana wrote:There's still the thing where i got fired and the mod explicitly told me my alignment didnt change.
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Post Post #6116 (isolation #881) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:19 pm

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Post Post #6117 (isolation #882) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:19 pm

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Like idk what to make of that message
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Post Post #6118 (isolation #883) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:21 pm

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then
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Post Post #6121 (isolation #884) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:22 pm

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And A50's stuff about the 2 step process of turning people into robots.
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Post Post #6124 (isolation #885) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:23 pm

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The event happened when Primate, the leader of Aeon got lynched.
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Post Post #6125 (isolation #886) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 6123, Alisae wrote:like if there was a time to vote the masons
now would be a pretty good time to verify if one of them is masons via flip
Probably, but, do u think Fakeclaiming Mason is a thing Dunn does this game?
Or do you think he was one and his alignment flipped?
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Post Post #6127 (isolation #887) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:30 pm

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So here's the thing.
N1: CC (rebels) died
N2: PP (aeon) died (he had hinted to being a cop, but apparently he wasnt), an Event giving everyone 2 serum triggered.
D3: A50 was saying that they were trying to turn him into a robot or something and had made him odd night ascetic, and that probably turning him into a killing machine was Aeon's objective so he can kill people for Simotech. Also Claude (Simotech) was lynched.
N3: MariaR / Ankamius (Rebels) and A50 (Rebels)(Bodyguard) died.
D4: Primate (Aeon) was lynched and Revival event happened.
N4: Gamma (Rebels)(Vig) and Oversoul (Simotech)(Strongman) died.
N5: No one died, i was BP, Ali protected me, if i was targeted for a kill Ali would be dead unless Ali was targeting me for a kill.

Either scum is Ali, Scum purposefully no killed, Scum was unable to kill, Scum did something other than kill since they cant multitask.
What's going on with Aeon? is there any simotech left? Are masons turned scum now? is RP no killing while sending letters to "prove himself"? is CK scum and couldnt have commited a kill last night?

All these questions are going through my mind right now.
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Post Post #6128 (isolation #888) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:32 pm

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In post 6126, Alisae wrote:
In post 6125, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 6123, Alisae wrote:like if there was a time to vote the masons
now would be a pretty good time to verify if one of them is masons via flip
Probably, but, do u think Fakeclaiming Mason is a thing Dunn does this game?
Or do you think he was one and his alignment flipped?
he probably was a mason or the core of his role is that he's supposed to play like how masons would and claiming mason was encouraged
What was the context of their mason claims?
Well it's... a long story.
But at the time, Rauth was being pushed and Dunn claimed that they were masons.
When asked about the mason thing, to see if it's "Cant be simotech" or "Cant be aeon" all we got is that "Dunn and Rauth know that they both are the same alignment".
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Post Post #6129 (isolation #889) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:33 pm

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Previous game mod did say that Iustitia would be town next time, which gives credence to the fact that they are masons as they are both the only Iustitia members.
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Post Post #6130 (isolation #890) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:35 pm

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Only problem is the "bastard game" and the fact that the mod explicitly told me my alignment didnt change, on top of the fact that he said "There are no cults".
Means that there might be an event that causes one or more ppl to change alignment, just like what he mentioned in the previous game.
Whether he was trying to keep Iustitia town the whole game or not is still ????
Theorywise it's also possible that he did the opposite, the event DID trigger on D4, and back then he said he wanted Iustitia scum until D4, well... did the opposite happen here?
Idk if it's really worth thinking about this, i dont want to think of the masons being scum, and it scares me to think of it being a very real possibility.
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Post Post #6131 (isolation #891) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:36 pm

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Actually i guess it's more like the event triggered on N4 not D4, but you get what i mean.
Or idek how to classify that.
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Post Post #6135 (isolation #892) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:14 pm

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In post 6134, CloudKicker wrote:@sakura what day did you lose ur job, D2?
at the end of N1 yes.
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Post Post #6138 (isolation #893) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:21 pm

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In post 6137, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 6135, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 6134, CloudKicker wrote:@sakura what day did you lose ur job, D2?
at the end of N1 yes.
Didnt kid start his upkeep d2? Aka lost his vote. Maybe he has the ability with no serum cost but with a huge upkeep. So it would be encouraged to use early with the offset of losing a vote (so before actually earning serums for fationnal stuff)
Kid's upkeep started D1.
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Post Post #6141 (isolation #894) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 6140, CloudKicker wrote:Also, isnt starting with upkeep a bit unbelievable for a town VT? Like it would only mean that that town loses its vote early in the game on a 19P table; it looks underwhelming as a negative utility and from a design standpoint, not even fun or relevant. I think theres better ways to give town negative utility
There's no other way the upkeep hits N1.
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Post Post #6142 (isolation #895) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:24 pm

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If the upkeep hit N1 and he supposedly used an ability N1, then the ability wouldnt trigger coz the upkeep prevents night action AND removes vote.
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Post Post #6145 (isolation #896) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 6143, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 6139, Bambi Jay wrote:What if... Hear me out... Anti town faction(s) mean't 3 scumteams of 2 each?
It was mentionned but is very unlikely if you think masons are mafia. The way the masons played would mean they were unaware of a potential flip of alignement since now lynching even one would mean auto win for town. I hink not telling them would be bad design and unfun for them
Yeah you're right.
I was thinking that maybe it was designed for this mindset, but that'd be trying to run myself into conspirancy theories.
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Post Post #6146 (isolation #897) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:27 pm

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In post 1, Zaphkael wrote:Some roles may have a Serum upkeep. This means that, after the role is used for the first time, you lose some Serum every night, the exact amount being specified in your role PM.
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Post Post #6147 (isolation #898) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:27 pm

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I dont remember where it was mentioned or by who, but the serum upkeep should start the night after the role was used.
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Post Post #6150 (isolation #899) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:31 pm

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Unless they flip when they are still mason.
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Post Post #6151 (isolation #900) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:33 pm

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Also i've been voteless role before, Kidamn's role looks like a better version of that.
Don't see why it's hard for you to imagine that as an NU.
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Post Post #6152 (isolation #901) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:35 pm

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Also removing vote from town is less harmful to town than it is for scum to remove a scum vote.
Specially if the scumteam is... less big due to multiball.
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Post Post #6155 (isolation #902) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:41 pm

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Yes i know they had their vote D1, their upkeep also started D1. there was no N0 to lose their vote to.
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Post Post #6157 (isolation #903) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:43 pm

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I dont see where you come to that conclusion? they arent on the Not Voting list, nor are voting anyone.
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Post Post #6164 (isolation #904) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:00 pm

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In post 6158, CloudKicker wrote:“Everyone”
Implies everyone is not voting
He did that every single first votecount tho.
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Post Post #6167 (isolation #905) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:05 pm

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@Mod: if someone's voteless at the start of the day would you put "Not Voting: Everyone"


I dont see why you have a hard time with this, Kid had no serum at the end of N1, then they dont appear in any Not Voting List day 2, as voteless they also couldnt get serum day 2 and the same thing repeats day 3, are you suggesting that they randomly lost their vote in the middle of the day?
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Post Post #6171 (isolation #906) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:08 pm

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you REALLY REALLY are looking for reasons to suspect kid arent you.
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Post Post #6172 (isolation #907) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:09 pm

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I try to explain it to you 100000 times and then you complain when i scumread you.
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Post Post #6174 (isolation #908) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:10 pm

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In post 6173, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 6171, Sakura Hana wrote:you REALLY REALLY are looking for reasons to suspect kid arent you.
Kinda, I cant find mafias atm
Probably because presumably RP is one of them and they were too busy sending a letter instead of killing.
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Post Post #6176 (isolation #909) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:13 pm

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what if RP is simotech and someone else is Aeon, and Aeon cannot kill.
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Post Post #6179 (isolation #910) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:15 pm

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In post 6178, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 6176, Sakura Hana wrote:what if RP is simotech and someone else is Aeon, and Aeon cannot kill.
Still means theres mafia outside and i dont really buy the non-killing scum faction
Then explain the kills?
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Post Post #6182 (isolation #911) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:22 pm

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i thought you used occam's razor?
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Post Post #6185 (isolation #912) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:27 pm

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It's simpler to assume that the other kill doesnt exist. Than figure out where it's gone every night.
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Post Post #6186 (isolation #913) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:28 pm

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This was a boring conversation, i learned nothing new, other than, you're getting desperate.
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Post Post #6188 (isolation #914) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:31 pm

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In post 6187, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 6186, Sakura Hana wrote:This was a boring conversation, i learned nothing new, other than, you're getting desperate.
Imagine calling me desperate when I couldve hammered RP with no repercussions on town cred. If anything, I am desperate town.
Never second guessing roles that are assumed town is much more indicative of mefia; town always ends up paranoid when they dont have satisfying foses
Oh, so you havent figured out why im making the connection on BOTH of you being scum?
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Post Post #6203 (isolation #915) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:21 pm

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In post 1035, RadiantCowbells Superfan wrote:genuinely confused by the way because im at the point
where i'd defend dunn with my life at this point if it came down to that
, what seems scummy abt him to you?
This tho.
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Post Post #6204 (isolation #916) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:23 pm

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In post 1353, RadiantCowbells Superfan wrote:isnt it confirmed not multiball via flavor?
This too.
Aeon would know that Simotech exists as an alignment via the mechanics.
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Post Post #6206 (isolation #917) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:27 pm

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Eh im just gonna go to sleep.
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Post Post #6209 (isolation #918) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:30 am

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Well CK just helped me prove Ali is town.
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Post Post #6211 (isolation #919) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:52 pm

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In post 6208, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 1, Zaphkael wrote: [*]Anti-Town Faction(s) that have access to a factional nightkill CANNOT do the factional nightkill next to their other abilities, if any.
This kind of hints at the existence of a faction without a factional nightkill, so Aeon lacking a night-kill is possible.
Looking at this again, it means they can only not do the factional nightkill, if Aeon has a different kind of factional ability or simotech has other factional abilities then they can multitask those.
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Post Post #6215 (isolation #920) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:09 am

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In post 6212, RedPanda wrote:At first I thought it was team of Alisae+bambi or Alisae+kidamn or it was mason scum but now I think its Alisae+sakura. Sakura's idea of balance pings me so hard and the way she uses any defense I make to paint me as solo scum and duo scum whenever it suits her using separate logic for both. I'm really tired of the game now and I think the game can be easier solved with a lynch so please just pick someone.
Oh! spicy, i like scum that fight back.
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Post Post #6216 (isolation #921) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:10 am

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In post 6213, RedPanda wrote:
In post 5083, Primate wrote:Yeah, I'm under no illusions.

I'm Will Grant from GenX. 2 serum to remove someone from their factional PT. 1s upkeep, if I don't pay upkeep/die they get to go back in. Used it on OS last night. Didn't use it n2 cause I'd immediately fail upkeep.

Mod wouldn't tell me what implications this would have wrt to them organising factional night actions.
I think this is actually what "fired" sakura.
Pray tell then how did i randomly joined the outcasts then.
Unless you think Gamma was lying about me joining their pt?
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Post Post #6219 (isolation #922) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 6217, CloudKicker wrote:Its not mutually exclusive with you being simotech at game start
He's implying im lying about getting fired from my company and that i lost access to factional PT instead.
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Post Post #6220 (isolation #923) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:21 am

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So CK, you have me as clear and you proved ali isnt simotech, i proved ali isnt aeon. What are your reads right now.
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Post Post #6222 (isolation #924) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:27 am

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unwnd- [10] Dunnstral 802, Bambi Jay 877, PenguinPower 1278, Fred the Cat 1319, Rautherdir 1620, Almost50 1706, Celestial Coordinates 1816, Sakura Hana 1831, Cloudkicker 1834, unwnd 1841[/quote]
Hmm.
If you wanna believe Simotech was who got me fired it's someone in this list.
Dunnstral
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CC

CK

Based by the "Your alignment didnt change" thing.
Unless that action didnt need serum.

P-Edit: he put fired in quotation marks.
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Post Post #6223 (isolation #925) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:28 am

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Which would imply RP isnt simotech.
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Post Post #6224 (isolation #926) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:31 am

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The serum consumption Bambi has claimed so far seems to matchup with the serum they've gained, assuming they're telling the truth about their upkeep, and probably they are, as any less would make their ability op and said ability's been proven iirc?.
So probably not Bambi .
Hmm.

Dammit im back to thinking RP Aeon / CK Simotech.
Or maybe whoever was Aeon became Simotech after Primate's lynch.
All evidence except last night's point towards Ali town. But Ali town means where the fuck did the nightkill go.
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Post Post #6275 (isolation #927) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:25 pm

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In post 6274, Bambi Jay wrote:VOTE: Panda

Fuck it the game is stalling, so let's get this bread.
I endorse this product and/or service.
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Post Post #6279 (isolation #928) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:47 pm

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I just went back to an old avatar i think i used last halloween.
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Post Post #6280 (isolation #929) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:48 pm

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or maybe the one before that.
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Post Post #6294 (isolation #930) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:36 am

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In post 6288, CloudKicker wrote:VOTE: bambi If I dont open the ball, no one will
I mean, i dont want to vote there anyway?
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Post Post #6295 (isolation #931) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:38 am

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In post 6293, CloudKicker wrote:It wouldn't be a thing available in their mind if they were mafia with their solo POV; thats my point calling this a townslip.
Unless last Aeon became Simotech with the event.
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Post Post #6302 (isolation #932) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:45 am

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Alisae isn't scum.
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Post Post #6306 (isolation #933) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:12 pm

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Presumably, because Bambi isnt actually Macho.
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Post Post #6309 (isolation #934) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:02 pm

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Let's just not worry about whether Bambi lied about being Macho or not, and let scum worry about it instead k?
Oh wait that's you.
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Post Post #6375 (isolation #935) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 6368, Ankamius wrote:
In post 6365, Bambi Jay wrote:Oh, the dead chat wasn't that interesting. I'm sad now.

Heck it seemed like scum killed scum better then town.
I didn't say much because I was barely invested in the game
I wish you hadn't died.
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Post Post #6376 (isolation #936) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:09 am

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A long forgotten memory haunted me:
"User 17 program installed. Sweet dreams"
Yeah this is what MariaR sent me and it was creepy.
I thought I had done something weird with a program in the past
Ankamius' message made more sense.
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Post Post #6380 (isolation #937) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:41 pm

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In post 6377, Ankamius wrote:idk if I would've been +EV in this game alive honestly
I had a good TR on maria due to her flaking.
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Post Post #6382 (isolation #938) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:48 pm

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In post 6381, Firebringer wrote:
In post 6317, Zaphkael wrote:This atory is one I've been wanting to tell and to share for years now. It means a lot to me that I've finally been able to do so, and I'm very thankful for that.

Thank you to everyone who stayed with me during this game. It has been boring, frustrating, angonzing and so many other things at times, but I'm happy that you were willing to see the positives and stayed. Thanks.

Also a very special mention to firebringer. I honestly couldn't have had a better comod. You did so much more than I asked of you, and I don't know how I can repay you. Thank you man.

That said, I'm glad this gane ended. It was a drag for everyone, and as a mod it's painful to see how your game is a burden on everyone still playing it. I'm sorry for that. I hope you enjoyed it at least somewhat!
ur overselling my involvement.

you did most of the game, i just helped out when i had some time and you were incapacitated.

interesting game.

I was rooting for scum and then the scum shot other scum and my hopes were dashed. I was really on team scum this game and you guys let me down. I don't know if i can ever root for scum players again.
You're still scum.
Note: promise to scumread FB fullfilled.
I bloom in spring?
Please be nice to me.
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Post Post #6384 (isolation #939) » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:59 pm

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i had too much serum, I RESISTED THE URGE.
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