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In post 775, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: sauce Rex

Walk me through what you were thinking when you posted 576

I townread Jake, so I wrote 576 under the assumption Jake was town. The wiki tells me that the actions of a role with the modifier “disloyal” only work if they are not the same alignment as the role. Therefore, since I think Jake is town, he would only be able to use his abilities on mafia.
I realise now that it was a joke claim, but when I posted 576, I thought Jake wouldn’t joke as it could be turned into a scumtell by Dolly.

In post 741, Joey_ wrote:

In post 737, SausasaurusRex wrote:

In post 701, Joey_ wrote:VOTE: LUV

Could you elaborate on this vote? Is it just because of inactivity, or do you have suspicions?

I could but I won't. Who do you think is mefia?

I’m not certain at the moment. I townread Wake and Jake. I don’t like how you refuse to answer questions, Joey, but it isn’t enough for a scumread. Aliminda I used to townread, but he’s more null now.

VOTE: billy pilgrim
sheeping my townreads
as in, billy being worse than alim

Wake post a read lis

Stop voting for shit reasons

Its really annoying that decent slot gets voted left and right by scummy slots and no one bats an eye

@sauce that doesnt really answer my question. Whos mefia? Whats your scumpool today?

VOTE: wake up sheeple

For now i think wake is the best slot to put pressure on. Everyone should reread and make their minds about the table. RN theres so many replacements and afks that we don’t know who reads who how

VOTE: wake yeah sure sounds good

In post 797, ofrhz wrote:

In post 665, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Damnit Dolly, if you're town, you broke this game. I do not understand why the fuck you think it was town motivated to set these ridiculous conditions and then badger people over them. You got evidence of this working even once? You said that scum cant resist, you got any proof of that or just your dogged insistence that that's the case?

This is an overreaction to what dolly did. It feels fake

Also billy was voting for dolly and presumably had her as a scumread of some strength

Why would you get mad at someone’s gameplay if they’re a scumread who was doing dumb things and getting voted?

@Wake - in response to your wall, what the actual fuck was the purpose of your question? You asked me about 491 amd said if I had to choose just one to vote between Dolly, invis, and Jake, who would it be? Well I chose one. And that was 15 posts later at 504. So seriously, what was the purpose of that question? And you said nothing else. I want that read list since you said you were working on it

I feel like this was weirdly aggressive.

I’ve played with billy before - i think this kind of tone is out of character.

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generally Billy’s posts are pretty towny when he’s town. He has a sort of scumhunting energy that really shines through his posts that I’m not seeing here.

I found his original reasons for voting dolly kind of weak as well.

I dont think it was an overreaction. I think she completely destroyed the gamestate by trying to force a duel with Jake. I also dont see why my case against her was weak. It was wrong, clearly, but I dont think I was way off for finding those things indicative.

As for your read of my tone, I can see that. I was less aggressive that game, but I also dont really remember anything driving me into an intense level of frustration. Most of my other games where I get frustrated have a tone like this. I'm thinking mostly of a newbie I played with Norwegian where I felt like his evasiveness was hurting the forming of solid townreads.

The fact that your slot flipped its read of me so quickly is probably due to two different players reading the game genuinely differently rather than a quick change in agenda. I think scum would be a bit more self-aware than that.

I think Ofhrz is probably town here.

In post 808, Invisibility wrote:VOTE: wake yeah sure sounds good

I think you've now sheeped 3 different slots. Can you come up with your own reason for voting any of those 3.

my read on you was original

I can’t be expected to come up with new reads all the time! My genius is dwarfed by the genius of other people!

or like, stifled, or whatever

In post 811, Invisibility wrote:my read on you was original

Can you explain it?

In post 805, Joey_ wrote:Its really annoying that decent slot gets voted left and right by scummy slots and no one bats an eye

You talking about the votes on Billy?

Everybody should vote the next time they check in

My puny brain can’t keep track of your top scumreads without votes

In post 809, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I dont think it was an overreaction. I think she completely destroyed the gamestate by trying to force a duel with Jake. I also dont see why my case against her was weak. It was wrong, clearly, but I dont think I was way off for finding those things indicative.

Feels like you were listing things that are NAI or weak reasons to scumread someone, but not considering everything else they were doing that can be construed as towny

The read didn’t feel holistic, which I know you’re capable of doing

It was her early day play that made me think she was scummy. Her later day play made me not want to play with her. I think the early day play should have raised some alarms. Hopping on that mod vote after two other people when she didnt mention it as the first poster afterwards.

Also, I get weirded out when people talk about my ability to form reads in a positive light. I got you killed when i was the conf!town. Was i considering your play holistically there? Yeah, i read Neza as town based on his reaction to being almost hammered. I didnt see Dolly's reaction in the same light because she was aggro while it was happening. Neza seemed resigned. The tone was different. So I didnt do the hard flip like inhad with Neza in that game.

I am taking billy’s slot to lylo with me. If anyone has qualms about any either my slot or his, speak now c:

In post 815, ofrhz wrote:

In post 805, Joey_ wrote:Its really annoying that decent slot gets voted left and right by scummy slots and no one bats an eye

You talking about the votes on Billy?

Yas

And someone else i dont remember, just overall. The d1 townblock was implied to me ehtos/rb/myself. Sarting d2, i feel pretty lazy dont really want to take the game by the balls even if i should

Billy, can you link me a scum and town game of yours so i can lock my read on you

In post 818, Billy Pilgrim wrote:It was her early day play that made me think she was scummy. Her later day play made me not want to play with her. I think the early day play should have raised some alarms. Hopping on that mod vote after two other people when she didnt mention it as the first poster afterwards.

Also, I get weirded out when people talk about my ability to form reads in a positive light. I got you killed when i was the conf!town. Was i considering your play holistically there? Yeah, i read Neza as town based on his reaction to being almost hammered. I didnt see Dolly's reaction in the same light because she was aggro while it was happening. Neza seemed resigned. The tone was different. So I didnt do the hard flip like inhad with Neza in that game.

I’m not saying your results need to be always correct, but the reads should be nuanced

In post 819, Joey_ wrote:I am taking billy’s slot to lylo with me. If anyone has qualms about any either my slot or his, speak now c:

I do