The only more SvS read in this entire gameIn post 214, the worst wrote:v///v RC...In post 211, RadiantCowbells wrote:but do you like... like me like me? :ci haven't decided yet. i feel like i should have an opinion but also looking over mathblade etc.'s takes on you i'm kinda like "sigh.. maybe". i don't think you're being pushed for very sensible reasons but i don't really think you're towny if that makes senseIn post 212, Plum wrote:worstie, thoughts on me?
Anyone's thoughts on how likeIn post 1320, Plum wrote:Okay, I'm really going to try to buckle down and put together a meaningful post here. I apologize for being disengaged the past few days. Some of it is just on me going back to school-work this week with a major sleep schedule change (and also getting sucked into Disco Elysium, that one is really on me) and some of it is that sometimes there are like 4+ pages of 2-4 players posting happening while I'm asleep. That's just hard to engage with. Like on the one hand Idothink those are really useful and valuable, and have produced meaningful Townreads for myself and others of RC, skitter, and MathBlade simply by the way they interacted live over those pages. It doesn't leave me with much to say on those besides that they're there and they're good. Of the others who have posted very frequently I need to reread tw and RCEnigma to be confident in reads. However I am inclined to see tws frustrations and his responses to offers to take Day 1 off as Town-leaning in and of themselves (and would certainly encourage him to continue to take as much of Day 1 off as he likes) and this is again a reread space but I'm inclined to see RCE saying that he suspects RC at the moment but does not want to wagon him in a more Town light as well.
Re Flopz - I'm inclined to agree with RC that his posts of this morning are Town-leaning. UNVOTE: I was hoping to see if pushing him on scumreading MathBlade while accusing Ari of trying to pocket MathBlade as scum would tempt Ari to overcommit and show his hand (actually this was primarily hito's brilliant plan) but Flopz's subsequent posts and the more general Townread that formed on him (again, which I am inclined to agree with) kind of dumped that as a play.
So assuming all of the abovediscussed players are Town, whether lock or reasonable lean, we have the following:
Xtoxm - oh hell
why
like I remembered this guy's name as an oldie but I did not remember this - and I'm being exceptionally generous here - "playstyle"
oh and to answer this
Like an unforced nearly naked "RVS" vote well past RVS is nottryingto look like something it isn't. It's not the backbone of any solid gambit that I know of or anything but I compared Bella's first post which seemed to be trying to look like it was *content* when it seemed really really low content as fake scumhunting from someone trying to look real scumhunting. See below for my overall impression of Bella though.
tris - nope
There's just no there there and it's definitely trying to look like there's some there there
Honestly I agree that tris is very scummy and I don't blame RC et al for thinking of me when they think of her because apparently I'm like the only one she can talk about in the game
Okay not literally but yeah her mentions and discussion of me are drastically out of proportion to most of the other players in the game and obviouslynotbecause she's doing a lot of heavy duty reading or pushing of a Plum slot she thinks is being under-investigated, I'm just someone she *likes* to talk about in vaguely positive/defensive ways all the time
So like I see where that's coming from
also to respond
Like on the one hand that might have some merit in a very broad general sense given the high general play caliber I've heard and seen from skitter and the fact that we might have some similar thought processes but I'm happy enough with what I've seen from skitter giving it more than a couple of days of seeing whether there's more there so.In post 768, tris wrote:if that's all you get from skitter, then that means she's probably scum. I find that when she's town, she has a little extra that comes through. that said, i think i saw a bit of town early on, but i'm not sure. it will of course be more clear when i've seen her post more.In post 482, Plum wrote: I don't know exactly what to make of skitter, like I mostly agree with her views on a lot of things and her reasoning is all quite *reasonable* but I don't know enough to say if that impression should give other than a null read on her right now
Ico - Okay here is someone I have at least seen play scum in a Normal from Mod vantage point recently
I was frustrated that he made a whole to-do of making a case on me for my MathBlade vote and unvote (which I think in concept is something that makes sense in context) but it rested on him having read and torn apart every step of my MathBlade vote and unvote except the one post where I specifically explained the reasoning, and after I quoted it for him he just dropped it and ignored my requests for elaboration, though I think tw (?) said that not following that up was probably more NAI for Ico so sure maybe on that count
Everything else from him is a mehhh at best. Maybe slight thumbs up for his take on RC vs. skitter 1v1 if I'm being generous.
(To be fair to Ico I've seen him make some very questionable calls when it comes to NK choices recently ... okay sorry hard to resist that one)In post 1019, RadiantCowbells wrote:ico you have literally seen me be the nightkill target without exception in all the games we'd be together in. where do you get off saying stuff like I'm trying to create wifom
Bella - Hmm. Yeah it's low energy and low-content etc. Reading it through the lens of trying to see what RC sees Town in Bella, I guess I would fairly say that what she has contributed feels haphazard in a way that seems agendaless. Her votes haven't been on really anyone I could imagine getting pushed (at the time she voted them and has been voting them) but not in a way that looks like she's just trying to avoid heat by placing her vote somewhere safely out of the way. She votes skitter and Mathblade consecutively in places where people are liable to go "what, why?".
teacher - I am going to tentatively give some points to for his explanation for stating a preference to Xtoxm over Flopz wagon his morning (that statement made shortly before Flopz's new posts)
Ari - Okay I'll be upfront for some reason I had it in my head that the V/LA was going to be more limited or partial and that he would have some access sooner, I don't know why I thought that except that when he started the V/LA period he said "Also signing off for the night now so eho knows when I'll be back" which I guess I wrongly interpreted as "I'll probably be around here or there" (e.g. enough that voting him would potentially get responses and generate stuff even if at a lesser and more sporadic pace). On the other hand nothing from him to that point or after looks particularly Town, so
Consider preferred order something like Tris, Xtoxm, Ari, Ico.
VOTE: tris
HmmIn post 1156, teacher wrote:I think I’d rather Xtomx to Flopz of those two. I also don’t like how the Bella wagon kinda stalled and dissipated without sig analysis. I’d love to bear a Bella towncase or reasons to get off that current vanity.
I also tend to think the game has been mostly town in thread. I don’t get RC’s repeated suspicions of RCE in the quick ketchup, I’m pretty good on both being town, but found the notes interchange interesting if Townie for both.
Skitter remains the slot I’m most unsure of. I liked the genuine emotion in the RC 1v1, but I feel like she’s good enough to know that might be needed. The thing I’m having the hardest time pasrsing is the specific timing of her vote relative to the claim - like RC isn’t being lynched day 1 after that claim, so it seems like it could be LAMIST theater?
This is like totally a scum-scum quote btwIn post 196, the worst wrote:not sure how i feel abt tris as of yet; i think her not buying into the tonal analysis of plum rings true given tris has a really eccentric tonality as well
In post 220, the worst wrote:pretending to have an opinion is for posers
i'm not proud of the read doubling down on a read i don't really care about yet feels cheap
In post 226, the worst wrote:this is not why i gave you early credIn post 221, MathBlade wrote:You literally gave me cred for leading
i'm like, 4x as experienced or something as i was in heroes wanted
In post 229, the worst wrote:that's more or less my feeling
In post 231, the worst wrote:i'll let u know when i do
In post 236, the worst wrote:sorry my posting sucks.
i was excited on opening the thread but i'm tired and it's kinda like spammy and boring
i'll be around the place for a while
In post 243, the worst wrote:drive safe
In post 246, the worst wrote:could you throw me like a very iconeum 20 word explanation of the plum vote ico?
In post 265, the worst wrote:anyone have strong feelings on thisIn post 255, Iconeum wrote:plum overdefending against her party time opening didn't read greatIn post 246, the worst wrote:could you throw me like a very iconeum 20 word explanation of the plum vote ico?
voting mathblade wasn't amazing, it also came after RC voted Math so it feels like plum didn't feel safe voting for Math by herself?
making 169 and using that as a scumread for Math is yuck
also unvoted after RC makes me feel like Plum is trying to get in the shade, because the sun is burning hot like in aussie right now
209 is just an evacuation of the current gamestate which just says 'ok time to fuck off of my slot here guys', which is fine but I don't think an actual scumread on Math goes away from that post alone
ico it feels like you've compiled a list of things which ~look~ bad about plum but i don't feel really compelled to believe that these make you think she's scum
In post 267, the worst wrote:this game has already deeply offended me.In post 262, RadiantCowbells wrote:i already get the feeling this is not actually going to be a toxic game and that feels good
In post 270, the worst wrote:i feel like it's a lot of fucks for ico to give this early in the game about stuff i like, personally didn't really give a fuck about, but okIn post 266, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think it's fine.
In post 271, the worst wrote:i'm not that fancyIn post 269, Iconeum wrote:ducky were you baiting me there?
In post 274, the worst wrote:page 4 mathblade feels kinda... sillyIn post 273, Iconeum wrote:ducky what made you change your opinion on him?
his reactive 3p scumteam solves just feel kinda silly
idk he feels like he's trying to be seen astowny and solvey
In post 275, the worst wrote:ngl i think i'm biasing slightly because i have no idea why i'm suddenly in his scumteam solves outside of my posting being lacklustre
In post 279, the worst wrote:this is a more intense slow game than your scum slow game i... think?
i'm not into this game yet at all, but i am happy you're enjoying it.
In post 283, the worst wrote:have you like, read your low intensity scum games lolIn post 280, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm really confused because my slow i meant completely devoid of intensity? I feel like there's been virtually no, like, force behind anything that I've done and that's what I meant by slow moreso
In post 305, the worst wrote:should we scumread you for thaT?
In post 309, the worst wrote:i getcha
In post 314, the worst wrote:you think i would betray you by rolling scum? smh.
In post 316, the worst wrote:ahh mm and the other time with enter
yeah ok maybe i would betray you, but not this time
In post 326, the worst wrote:sigh
In post 333, the worst wrote:ank is stronger than i am.
she has math, rc, ico and tris as town
skitter as town but fragile.
and is scumreading rce, plum
i am withholding her read on aristophanes, and omitting nullreads
In post 334, the worst wrote:she is also leaning town on me but apparently that read is fragile as well.
In post 341, the worst wrote:i literally do not know how to respond to this i'm sorryIn post 336, RCEnigma wrote:Please can we not do this? It's cool if your partners are influencing your reads but x is reading x slot town/scum influences ALL of the games.In post 333, the worst wrote:ank is stronger than i am.
she has math, rc, ico and tris as town
skitter as town but fragile.
and is scumreading rce, plum
i am withholding her read on aristophanes, and omitting nullreads
i don't feel remotely bad or unjustified in shading my partner's thoughts, and i will not be discussing any other ongoing games in this thread
In post 342, the worst wrote:i'd just be generally interested to see why you have teacher south of null rnIn post 338, Plum wrote:I have another scumread shared with a teammate in teacher, which I'm holding for the moment in case the lack of desktop access was changing stuff there.
In post 345, the worst wrote:i don't think that should meaningfully impact your ability to read me tbqh
i happen to revere ank's reads and wanted to share them
that's about it
In post 349, the worst wrote:that's the read that piqued my curiosity the most too - she's finding him a bit too compromisey, doesn't feel like his posting trajectory reads true and like he's been responding to kinda.. odd things.
i don't disagree with her, but i'm not confident i can read him yet.
In post 362, the worst wrote:generally agreeIn post 360, Iconeum wrote:tris's response to mathblade pushing for reads felt pretty townie too actually
In post 369, the worst wrote:i get you - i think there are rare situations where being like "x is townreading me? ugh that's pockety" is intuitive but those situations are rare, where scum making the decision to suggest someone is pocketing to both try and look townier + deflate the other person's position is just a more realistic mindset
In post 382, the worst wrote:do tell
In post 431, the worst wrote:Luckily not - the fires are mostly interstate, but even so not close to where I am. All the same, feel horrible for those affected.In post 385, teacher wrote:Pls tell me this is not fire related. Ive been thinking of you actually. Congrats on the GTKAS, you might even get me to do it.In post 203, the worst wrote:working a lot & getting ready to move house atm :/ this is my ~second priority behind like volunteering positions onsite so... you will get as much of me as i can giveIn post 110, teacher wrote:Where’d the duck go?
Itd be great to see you around the GTKAS!
(also second wish to impose geriatric rules tbh)
In post 432, the worst wrote:Ico's probably townIn post 398, skitter30 wrote:Tw what's your read on ico?
In post 758, the worst wrote:Hiconeum
In post 769, the worst wrote:what do you make of mathblade aorn tris?
Wow
In post 1682, Aristophanes wrote:Also, yourself, Math, and skitter have more than 2/3 of this thread within your posts and I don't want to read your back and forth bickering. The rest of the players don't seem to interact with each other from the snippets I've read, like any of them, because you three dominate.
So what even is the point other than generating reads on you three?
In post 1693, Aristophanes wrote:Okay, RC, I'm sorry about that. I just see the thread dominated my you, not the breaks.
Can you tell me why you scumread me? What in my posting has given you this read?
I can address it if I know what it is, but otherwise I'm likely to continue down my D1 mislynch path and I know you're seen this too often to count at this point.
Wait what the fuckIn post 1939, Aristophanes wrote:In post 1935, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also Ari
I literally never accused you of being scum for lack of posting or reading
You know who keeps bringing that up as a thing? Duckling.
Almost as if you're taking talking points from him.
My talking points are from Nancy Drew and I was told I was L-1 and ready to be lynched because you're pushing a scum!me narrative based on, like, iunno tonal shit and inactivity was kinda my assumption.
I was asked to get in here and explain myself, so I did. I have legit no idea what TW thinks about my slot.
lolIn post 2283, the worst wrote:Jamming with Eddie as this convo is going on
we're pretty strong on 1 scum in {rc, ari}
In post 2305, the worst wrote:- he considers you good, and respects your reads on some people are incredible (maria as an offhand example). but you scumread him in every game. he asks if you remember rapier, where you/he both had great reads outside of hard tunnelling each other.
I haveIn post 2314, the worst wrote:i'm not sure what your issue with me alignment spewing is dudeIn post 2312, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not reading you anymore and I don't see the point of engaging with you or Eddie Cane for its own sake given that you're just trying to use it as a vehicle to selfspew town.
Do you think I'm scum? Idk what to say, lol.In post 2321, MathBlade wrote:Man I wish Skitter was here.In post 2320, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean
I honestly think him calling me bad in a hypothetical universe where I pretty obviously am 2/2 on scum with 1 incorrect read on him is worse than what you pointed out.
I need someone who is actually town online.
OkIn post 2326, MathBlade wrote:Either that or the worst just spewed both of you and Ari scum with him for no reason. Like it doesn’t net scum TW anything.
I gotta go we need more people but I am pretty sure TW actually doesn’t want to lynch you and it’s noise and your job was to pull the lynch off Ari if you’re scum.
Literally the worst logic:::::In post 2358, the worst wrote:he's not a fucking town investigative
he knows he isn't getting lynched and wants an excuse not to get nk'd
