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Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:15 pm
by Churros
If Popop is wolf...It'll be heartbreaking, but I do need to trust my guts if I'm to play this game, and they tell me the wagon is ill-motivated.

I find both reasons to appreciate Popop slot and reasons to suspect most of the players trying to drive him now.

My read list at this moment is:

[Saudade]
[Alch, Popop, Zantetsu]
[Fire, Luna, Nero] - null
[Norwe, Peter, Profi]

My read on Popop isn't as good as I would want, but it's what I have in store today...

I'll...probably try to decide between dropping Alch to null or letting him there in the town leans.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:17 pm
by Churros
That's why the Elems NK was so weird to me...what would 2/3 of [Norwe, Peter, Profi] be thinking to kill Elems here?

Very weird.

I could see Luna/Nero or something else killing Elems since they have no urgency in killing anyone else, but for now I'll trust my reads rather to dwell on NKA which can be misleading.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:18 pm
by Alchemist21
I really hope someone claims a vig shot on Elements because it would clear things up.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:19 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Those latests posts from Churros are honestly pretty town. But i’m still feeling a playful hide and seek and brutally chew up and muder on the mouse girl.

The Peter case is pretty weak and doesn’t seem to hold much substance. The Profii case also i don’t see why would be scummy. He’s doing wagon analyzis like me.
Also the case on me, well i know i’m town. I joined the wagon on Jake because it seemed unavoidable and i was starting to doubt myself when going back over Jake’s ISO. Instead of looking for "wolf reads" you should focus on actually looking at the most obvious solution k tnx.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:19 pm
by Firebringer
VOTE: Saudade

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:20 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 804, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Saudade
:?:

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:21 pm
by Firebringer
In post 805, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 804, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Saudade
:?:
Want more from Saudade.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:21 pm
by Churros
There was nothing obvious in our last town game together though Norwe

In fact going to the obvious solution made us lose

why you think going to obvious is the way forward here?

why are you so sure that Popop is wolf?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:22 pm
by Churros
In post 806, Firebringer wrote:
In post 805, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 804, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Saudade
:?:
Want more from Saudade.
You find his absence wolf-indicative?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:22 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
First of all, i hate mice.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:22 pm
by Firebringer
In post 808, Churros wrote:
In post 806, Firebringer wrote:
In post 805, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 804, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Saudade
:?:
Want more from Saudade.
You find his absence wolf-indicative?
No.

His total contributions are unsatisfactory and I wish to speak to his manager.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:23 pm
by Churros
If the Peter case has no substance what substance popop has anyway?

You can't say that Jake was a counter wagon to him, because there was already a L-1 wagon on Peter.

If your reason to suspect Popop is a counterwagon on Peter, why not suspect Peter for a counterwagon on Jake?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:24 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 807, Churros wrote:why you think going to obvious is the way forward here?
Because your reads are outlandish and pretty damn impulsive. We didn’t lose the last game because we were thinking too obvious. It’s because we were going off wild urges.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:25 pm
by Luna Fox
In post 801, Churros wrote:I could see Luna/Nero or something else killing Elems since they have no urgency in killing anyone else
And yet you wonder why I wanna vote you.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:26 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 812, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Because your reads are outlandish and pretty damn impulsive.
I strongly disagree with this assessment.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:26 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
The Profii read came out of nowhere.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:27 pm
by Churros
No we were going to the obvious, 100%

BM was being genuinely scummy by progressing reads too fast, Zantetsu was being scummy by town reading suspected players too easy, I pointed this out, but I also got to suspect Anotora for not getting any of the jokes in the game, or Riabi for being slightly childish about Saudade. Maybe Una for defending Profi out of nowhere as well.

How wasn't that "going to the obvious" rather than seeing who is taking a backseat and being genuinely scummy?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:28 pm
by Churros
In post 815, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The Profii read came out of nowhere.
I was taking about profi yesterday and you actually was around when I did, I feel.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:29 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 815, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The Profii read came out of nowhere.
exists. It’s not coming from nowhere.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:29 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Ok.
@Churros Which of the "scummy 3" is your strongest read? Maybe i’ll consider if it’s not me.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:30 pm
by Churros
You've not given me a reason why you are so sure it's scum!Popop rather than any of the alternatives Norwe, especially how you suspect Popop but not Peter when their wagons were very similar, not only in people, but in timespan, and how it dismantled.

Why the difference? I'm trying to understand you if you're town.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:30 pm
by Luna Fox
The one thing im struggling with right now is whether Churros would do said meta case on Jake just to get a mislynch on a Lurker, because that progression doesnt look like scum.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:31 pm
by Churros
In post 819, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ok.
@Churros Which of the "scummy 3" is your strongest read? Maybe i’ll consider if it’s not me.
I'm getting such weird vibes out of you Norwe. Sorry but until we talk it out I don't feel like making this decision. I want to talk to you first.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:33 pm
by Churros
We begin talking by your popop's read.

Also, could you explain more or less the reason you would consider sheeping me even though I've a TR on popop and am suspecting slots you don't feel anything about? This isn't shading or a loaded question, I genuinely simply want your answer.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:33 pm
by Luna Fox
Like, he clearly had something going onto Jake since early as he called it "the best vote" or something way back. And when we were chasing wagons like headless chickens he probably thought "I need to do something or Jake might lurk it out as scum" and so he presented the meta case that caused us all to lynch Jake.
But i've really disliked his read progression on me and his opening this day which felt like fake overreaction.
Which is what I struggle with.