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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:17 am
by Bellaphant
That isn't what you were saying though? Obviously that makes sense...
Either I've misunderstood or you are eliding
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:19 am
by shellyc
Why do you ask Bulge, and not anyone else?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:20 am
by notscience
Maybe I didn’t articulate it the best but that was my judgement while it was actively going on
Pedit
Because I want his opinion? I normally try to play off him
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:12 am
by Andresvmb
I’ll get to this tonight. Well, it’s a shame I was way off about IV, but their vote on my wagon just seemed suspicious from my perspective. Obviously I was wrong.
I also think it’s a bit early to be making definitive statements about who is Town based on wagon composition, but I don’t dislike them completely. I think the votes that joined the wagon later in the day are more likely to come from Scum, since I don’t think I was anywhere close to making IV the leading wagon.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:14 am
by Andresvmb
However, I will also make the point that the Scum could have been avoiding the thread completely if the vote was between two Town. So obviously, Ouroel’s disappearance towards the end of the day is not a good look.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:15 am
by Andresvmb
Now, they were completely replaced, so haha maybe not.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:20 am
by Andresvmb
In post 747, Bell wrote:Perfectly good town block.
Gone.
...
Oh well!
Thanks for being cool IV, Walter. See you in the dead thread eventually. Dunno if we'll win, but I'll try.
@NS: okay. Do you think Ourael fake claimed tracker as bait at the start of the game?
Did Ouroel actually do this? Can you quote it? The reason being, why Tracker? Like why specifically that role? There’s multiple possible variations of this game, a lot of which don’t contain a Tracker. But it just so happens that the Town Tracker flips? The Scum have a far higher chance of predicting the Town PRs since from their perspective, there’s only 3 choices. If the Scum have a Rolecop, then a Tracker appears in the game 2/3’s of the time.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:23 am
by Andresvmb
VOTE: Nash
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:25 am
by Andresvmb
From my perspective, most of what Nash has been arguing is nonsense. Hence, my vote. And they didn’t seem to care which one of IV or me flipped really.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:27 am
by Andresvmb
In post 774, notscience wrote:I’m townreading bell and Nash.
I think it’s more likely scum are on the back end of wagons like that.
Wasn’t Nash a late vote on IV?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:30 am
by Andresvmb
There’s 1 hour and 12 minutes between Nash’s re-vote for IV, and the hammer. Uhm, how can anyone clear him exactly?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:39 am
by The Bulge
In post 799, notscience wrote:Scum on the wagon is common logic.
I know I’m town and am townreading two others on the wagon, so naturally I want to look where I’m not townreading.
I don’t think this is a new concept at all and this confusion from bella is very interesting.
Bulge?
In post 795, Bellaphant wrote:In a normal situation, that's fine ns, but we were elim-ing literally anyone as time was running out, and you were literally cheerleading the wagon?
Like, these feels really distanced and not actually related to what happened
nah bella's town now
Also how did we not comment on me getting called newbtown lmao
I think my eyes skipped to the competent player bit because i definitely did not notice lmao
he's saying that of the 3 later votes on the iv wagon, he townreads 2 of them, leaving just bella.
I haven't looked closely at nash probably at all this game because idk he was sort of in my peripheral of iv all yesterday. I'm thinking I might not like what I see, but I know I don't like andre's push here
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:42 am
by The Bulge
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:48 am
by Andresvmb
You don’t like Nash, but don’t like push onto a slot you don’t like?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:49 am
by Andresvmb
Well I guess if you’re SR’ing me you’re not going to like any push I make. But at the very least you should give me
some
credit for the fact that I called Walter Town early.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:51 am
by Andresvmb
I did in
326. And it was a change from an earlier position.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:56 am
by Andresvmb
Bellaphant on the other hand - now there’s a lot
not
to like in that ISO. Particularly
473, and
575. And they still voted for IV after
533?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:56 am
by Andresvmb
I can definitely see why notscience is SR’ing the slot.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:59 am
by Andresvmb
Actually that’s a better vote.
VOTE: Bellaphant
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:20 am
by The Bulge
VOTE: andre
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:39 am
by Andresvmb
The Bulge, just curious - what makes you so seemingly convinced that I’m Scum?
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:19 am
by Bellaphant
Why would I campaign for a wagon on my scum!read, Walter, and then nk him? I'd do one, or the other, as scum.
We needed an elim. I said this to you yesterday, in the post you just quoted as bad, because no one was consolidating. Like...I'm not even gonna argue you should town read me for it because it's just basic. But it's nai at all.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:57 am
by Andresvmb
And why would I NK the one guy that had a TR of my slot, and was actually defending me over IV? We can speculate about why Scum perform certain NK’s all day long, but I’ve never found that to be all that useful.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:58 am
by notscience
The night kill reads of low info unless someone else saw crumbs I didn’t.
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:58 am
by Andresvmb
It’s not about consolidating per se actually - I agree that’s whatever. It’s the choices. Walter was Town, and I know I’m Town.