mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Morning Mage]

Also, did the scum kill get blocked?

How so? We do have the body of S_S lying around in the morge

ill give you 5 bucks if you can work out what Bell is on about today.

[Morning Mage]

like i can believe you believe that, but i dont understand what your point is then? and how it links to your own wincon?

Actually, I buy Mathblade's claim. Math is a town aligned 3p. I'll explain tonight or after chemist implodes.

he just said over and over again he wasn't town aligned. i dont get that at all.

[Morning Mage]

Kong’s commander

It’s a mafia variant where scum only have to reach equality with true town.

There’s a hidden number of “Kings” that scum have to get rid of to win.

I think with this set up it’s the town.

This sounds like more bullshit.

Actually, I buy that, but it's not a reason why Math must live in particular.

Yes, thats what i said. i buy it, but dont understand what his point actually is?

DO MATH!

I WILL NOT DO YOU!

But seriously, I will if you tell me your actual goddamn wincon.

[Morning Mage]

like i can believe you believe that, but i dont understand what your point is then? and how it links to your own wincon?

Actually, I buy Mathblade's claim. Math is a town aligned 3p. I'll explain tonight or after chemist implodes.

tonight? how you gonna tell me tonight?

[Morning Mage]

Saying his wincon is against his wincon! (lol)

ah the first rule of scumclub

[Morning Mage]

like i can believe you believe that, but i dont understand what your point is then? and how it links to your own wincon?

Actually, I buy Mathblade's claim. Math is a town aligned 3p. I'll explain tonight or after chemist implodes.

tonight? how you gonna tell me tonight?

I suppose A50 or superbowl would relay that.

eh fat chance, just tell me now

[Morning Mage]

non 3p pool, includes 2 scum:

NorwegianboyEE

shellyc
Chemist1422
TheGoldenParadox

Bell
MathBlade

if Math is telling truth, a chemist-town self-destruct gives scum the win. i dont buy it though. neither does Titus apparently, despite saying otherwise.

[Morning Mage]

like i can believe you believe that, but i dont understand what your point is then? and how it links to your own wincon?

Actually, I buy Mathblade's claim. Math is a town aligned 3p. I'll explain tonight or after chemist implodes.

tonight? how you gonna tell me tonight?

I suppose A50 or superbowl would relay that.

eh fat chance, just tell me now

Nope.

no probs, i worked it out for myself.

[Morning Mage]

p sure the reason that Math claimed 3p doc is 2 fold

a50's faction is now the largest faction and he is trying to butter up to them

a50 and superbowl think he hinted @ being a doc

he just scum

yes Nero

[Morning Mage]

I have been trying to tell you this is likely King’s Commander.

What the freak is "King's Commander" though? I googled it and it looks like a novel, but what are the details?

it's Kong's Commando - he explains it in another post

[Morning Mage]

So no executing someone because they won’t Suicide is really really stupid.

like look @ this little scumbut try to defend taylor.

neutral my ass. If you were nuetral you wouldn't fucking care!


so here's what's going down my guys. Chemmist is gonna either suicide or get roped but if chemist does suicide then we rope Math.

*Clap* *Clap*

I'm with ya!

[Morning Mage]

I actually know what Math is doing here.

Manipulating you?

i am in agreement with the consensus that we flip Chemist and then Math.

[Morning Mage]

I actually know what Math is doing here. We're executing within the pool of three.

I fully trust you. so will follow without second guessing

way to stick to ya guns

[Morning Mage]

this is why we have always called it "the titus-hood" - obvious who runs the show

[Morning Mage]

If scum is chemist and Bell then we can safely wagon Math anyways b/c he's not town. Chemist>>>>Math>>>Bell

this is what i said, but i thought you were following Titus instead and saving Math?

[Morning Mage]

I actually know what Math is doing here. We're executing within the pool of three.

I fully trust you. so will follow without second guessing

way to stick to ya guns

Unlike you, I have a brain and can read and add things up. Thank you.

(Yeah, yeah.. now's the time you rage and tell me that I'm being a total ass to you and that you're done talking to me)

haha no rage from me dude, i just pity you at this point

[Morning Mage]

TITUS ISN'T THE BOSS OF ME!

that's the spirit! this town loves people who can think for themselves.

Spoiler:

hey A50

[Morning Mage]

^lol

lol dude, even you have no idea...

[Morning Mage]

hi everyone!

did this game stop autoplaying itself?

Something_Smart was Destructed in the night! he was a

vanilla townie.

I'll take that as a no. how's everyone doing?

~Morning

[Morning Mage]

hi everyone!

did this game stop autoplaying itself?

Something_Smart was Destructed in the night! he was a

vanilla townie.

I'll take that as a no. how's everyone doing?

~Morning

im miserable, please save us!

[Morning Mage]

i guess. I just think Math is the last scum and Titus won't go there so....

Yeah i know what you’re thinking Nero. We’ve been on the same wavelength for a while now. I was asking Battle Mage.

i am also on this wavelength. I'm not 100% math is last scum (because, Bell), but it's safest to elim his slot after we resolve chemist.

[Morning Mage]

How the fuck did I swap browsers after already making a post on this account

Is Titus being tinfoiled again? This has been going on for a while

I'm doing okay and yes that kill makes no fucking sense.

I think it kinda does from a Math POV.

Every single kill this game makes no sense to me. Did you guys figure out why every kill is garbage for scum? Cause it's not just the one

Maybe they're not allowed to target 3rd party or something. Which is weird.

Or maybe scum doesn't get to do anything with the kills lol. Either way, trying to figure out motivation behind one kill probably should take into consideration that the whole lot of em make no sense

or maybe you already know the answers to these questions and your math suspicion is justified

~Morning

[Morning Mage]

im miserable, please save us!

Is there a chance we lose or is it just that the arguments are getting unfun?

it's not unfun, just weird and confusing lol. and yes, there is a big chance we lose for 2 reasons.

[Morning Mage]

you could combine that to like, a 3rd party player that gets to control the nightkills but can only target town with them, causing every kill this game to be shit for groupscum

im miserable, please save us!

Is there a chance we lose or is it just that the arguments are getting unfun?

it's not unfun, just weird and confusing lol. and yes, there is a big chance we lose for 2 reasons.

Oh, I see. I suppose i should get on that bell read sometime soon

~Morning

[Morning Mage]

TITUS ISN'T THE BOSS OF ME!

that's the spirit! this town loves people who can think for themselves.

Spoiler:

hey A50

in order to be able to think for yourself you first need to install something called a brain. New concept, I know, but that's the way it goes,

my child

.

lol i'm worried if that's how you speak to your children dude. but good luck installing that brain!

[Morning Mage]

i mean, there's like 0 reason to not eliminate Math b/c he's not town and we won't get penalized for it but in the unlikely scenario that Math isn't the last Kings army we'll know its Bell so? A Math elim is great and the siblings need to recognize this!

preach!

[Morning Mage]

@Bell: You do trust me, no? I mean, skill-wise. If you do, please follow me. IF I'm wrong I will take ALL the blame.

why wouldnt Bell trust you alignment wise? and why would you even want Bell to trust you? you realise that IF your theory is right, Bell is scum?

[Morning Mage]

I could be a cyan coloured church of the spaghetti monster worshipper for all you know.

Not if MATH's THEORY is TRUE. The game would be OVER if you were anything but.

do you not think by Day 6, Math-scum is smart enough to have come up with such a theory? also you're relying not only on Math's theory being correct and his claim being true - they are 2 different questions and may have 2 different answers. it's perfectly possible Math is right about the setup whilst also being plain old scum.

[Morning Mage]

run the benefits of hooding math by me again? he wont self-destruct, so then what do we do?

[Morning Mage]

But if Math doesn't suicide and we have to misexecute him, we lose.

exactly. but maybe better to hood Bell then, as at least he claimed town. so he should self-destruct and give us the chance to flip Math for the win.

[Morning Mage]

run the benefits of hooding math by me again? he wont self-destruct, so then what do we do?

I have to persuade him to or we've lost.

he said he wouldnt *shrug* i think if chemist is scum, the better play is to hood-Bell.

[Morning Mage]

math-3p is less likely to do the right thing than a hypothetical Bell-town is my point.

[Morning Mage]

But if Math doesn't suicide and we have to misexecute him, we lose.

exactly. but maybe better to hood Bell then, as at least he claimed town. so he should self-destruct and give us the chance to flip Math for the win.

I'd be ok with that but my hoodmates would stage open rebellion, despite the accuracy of my reads.

nah so i think everyone can roll with:

If chemist self-destructs as town, we day-elim Math today.

If chemist doesn't self-destruct and we day-elim as scum today, hood-Bell tonight.

[Morning Mage]

Well, we got sometime to reflect on that morning. I see your point, but scum!Bell is going to continue the antisuicide path too.

i dont mind losing the game if I can 100% blame town-Bell for not self-destructing.

[Morning Mage]

I've not been much less accurate than you Titus. You were right on Pete out of the gate and I just ignored him but once I ISO'd him he made sense.

haha dont talk to me about accurate! I had Taylor and Pete nailed on page 1.

[Morning Mage]

and here we are 303 pages later...

[Morning Mage]

i cant believe there's a US presidential election in progress where Donald Trump is the significantly younger candidate.

[Morning Mage]

I'll think about hooding Bell. This is a situation the four of us need to discuss after Chemist is gone.

4? isnt there 5 of you?

[Morning Mage]

*Five

ah

[Morning Mage]

you should just go with my plan from previous page tho

[Morning Mage]

You’re the token member BM

lol i would be 6th. maybe you guys should hood math, to like....add some maths skills.

[Morning Mage]

I do suck at math to be fair.

it's ok - you're not bad at mathia

[Morning Mage]

Bell is the one I'm least certain on so i kinda wish he'd just suicide so if he was a miselim we don't get penalized but then I guess you could agree that his claim that he won't is scum b/c we are like 2-3 flips away from a town win and like ????

yeah basically this. hood him tonight, we'll force him to self-destruct tomorrow.

[Morning Mage]

big moment

[Morning Mage]

All i’m gunna do is spam your pages with why i’m Town until you give in first.

Hood someone else.

there's literally only 1 other option. but it isnt a very good one, as they basically already scumclaimed. You claimed town so let's test it.

[Morning Mage]

we just need chemist here to self-destruct or w/e, no point voting?

[Morning Mage]

you guys want to hear a tinfoil theory though?

scum is chemist and Bell and Math

is

a traitor doc wich would also make a ton of sense with a town vig

Nero, that would be 6 scum.

Essentially, this game boils down to whether or not we believe Math.

i mean math has already claimed things in this game which were later proven false.

[Morning Mage]

if scum is chemist-bell, i think town was actually pretty lucky, given we only really got there thanks to the Mod-confirmed info

[Morning Mage]

eh, either way i'm happy, it's been a fun game overall and we made it pretty deep!

[Morning Mage]

im not sure tbh, i thought the same as you, but could be wrong

[Morning Mage]

@Bell: You do trust me, no? I mean, skill-wise. If you do, please follow me. IF I'm wrong I will take ALL the blame.

why wouldnt Bell trust you alignment wise? and why would you even want Bell to trust you? you realise that IF your theory is right, Bell is scum?

Dude, seriously STOP talking to me cuz you're so awesome you're going to get me banned because I can't control my inexplicable rage.

please tell me why the solve isn't as simple as chemist+shelly here? Why would they put two of them in the pool each time? because it's possible that some players may forget to consider every available possibility. thanks for your question.

lol relax man - i've censored you above to try and stop you getting banned and defuse the tension. I always just talk to you about the game, and you seem to get personal because you can't handle someone having a different viewpoint. I don't know why you find it so difficult to just show a bit of courtesy and decency, because it's ok if someone disagrees with you or has a different opinion. It's forum mafia for goodness sake - that's basically the name of the game! None of us are always right, so a bit of humility can go a long way! And if you're honest, you've been wrong a lot more often than I have in this game. As I recall you spent all of the previous day phase trying to delay and distract from a scum-elim, and the day before that you were singularly responsible for a town-elim. That's fine though - it doesn't make you stupid - we all make mistakes. On your proposed solve, I think it's pretty unlikely given the likelihood that scum chose the cop reveals. Additionally, the consensus of all players is that it's unlikely, so perhaps you should direct your outrage at everybody, rather than just little old me? Although my advice would be to tone down the anger, rather than simply calling everybody stupid and brainless.

[Morning Mage]

relax please

lol if you can imagine 20 pages of just this...that's hood-life. Not much fun tbh, and hard to understand at times, but it is just a game and you never know what ppl are dealing with in real life, so always try not to take things to heart! <3

[Morning Mage]

@Bell: You do trust me, no? I mean, skill-wise. If you do, please follow me. IF I'm wrong I will take ALL the blame.

Where am I sheeping?

Wait for now, then if chemist doesn't self-sacrifice you vote her, and then stay put for tomorrow when we have worked things out in the PT.

P.S. And if I'm dead by tomorrow, follow sb.

I hesitate to say it, but there's no reason you should be dead tomorrow. Although if you were, it would be further proof that Math's theory is incorrect.

[Morning Mage]

@sb: Mate, it's NEVER about having a different view. Ask Nero. We almost never agree on the same read of a single player the hole game, and we sometimes take bouts on each other. Ask Titus. We have some fundamental differences between our play styles.

This is about someone who thinks "linear" and totally refuses to consider any other possibilities regardless of the situation. Man, he still considers Titus/Nero maybe playing against us, despite us both being in that hood -in addition to Norwee- and all confirming otherwise!! Also, how hard is it to understand that "at least one" does NOT equate to "exactly one"?

And then he says "do you realize that if your theory is true, Bell is scum?| and facepalms?

eh, i can see the above is in reference to me, so I'll respond. You're incorrect about my view on Titus/Nero - as should be pretty clear from the discussion so far today (and in the previous dayphase). However, it would be fair to say that I don't consider your view on somebody to be equivalent to a mech-conf, so no I wouldn't be convinced someone is 100% town just because you have a gut feeling they are. "at least one" doesn't necessarily equate to 1, but it might. The consensus view in this game is that it probably does - as noted, that isn't some madcap MM-theory, it's something which most people think is a reasonable possibility. You will see this if you look at people's solves today (and presumably the story is same in your hood). I have definitely considered other possibilities and changed my opinion throughout the game - me doing so was key to us flipping scum yesterday - although my initial reads have generally been fairly good. I can see you've taken it personally that I don't agree with you on some things - it isn't a sign of disrespect towards you, and it's honestly fine for people to have different styles and approaches. As I've said to you before, I think the line is drawn where things get personal, and there's really no need to insult or disrespect me because you don't agree with me - it's a game, so have fun, but try and be nice too. If it's helpful we can have a proper chat after the game too, as otherwise this discussion may derail things.

[Morning Mage]

Amd then he talks to me AGAIN after I had made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that I don't want to interact with him anymore. Is that too hard to understand too?

*shrug* i'm trying to make an extra effort to extend an olive branch to you, as I really don't see the reason for you being so angry at me in particular. I mean, even if you really think my opinions are bad, does that really warrant getting so mad? Mafia is a game of persuasion and co-operation, so if you think I'm wrong about something you should be trying to persuade me of your viewpoint, but honestly the best way to do that isn't to swear at me and insult me. If that's too much to ask at the moment, it sounds like it might be worth you taking a short break from this thread though.

[Morning Mage]

@sb: Mate, it's NEVER about having a different view. Ask Nero. We almost never agree on the same read of a single player the hole game, and we sometimes take bouts on each other. Ask Titus. We have some fundamental differences between our play styles.

This is about someone who thinks "linear" and totally refuses to consider any other possibilities regardless of the situation. Man, he still considers Titus/Nero maybe playing against us, despite us both being in that hood -in addition to Norwee- and all confirming otherwise!! Also, how hard is it to understand that "at least one" does NOT equate to "exactly one"?

And then he says "do you realize that if your theory is true, Bell is scum?| and facepalms?

whatd i do

lol you're all good dude, he was talking to/about me. i'm trying to calm things down.

[Morning Mage]

me?

[Morning Mage]

im always re-evaluating everybody, me

[Morning Mage]

Amd then he talks to me AGAIN after I had made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that I don't want to interact with him anymore. Is that too hard to understand too?

*shrug* i'm trying to make an extra effort to extend an olive branch to you, as I really don't see the reason for you being so angry at me in particular. I mean, even if you really think my opinions are bad, does that really warrant getting so mad? Mafia is a game of persuasion and co-operation, so if you think I'm wrong about something you should be trying to persuade me of your viewpoint, but honestly the best way to do that isn't to swear at me and insult me. If that's too much to ask at the moment, it sounds like it might be worth you taking a short break from this thread though.

Can you all please hug it out? This is just a game. Sure some things have absolutely frustrated me this game too. But please both of you, this isn’t productive. If need be take it to your group’s hood (assuming the three of you have one). I am intentionally taking a back seat as me posting isn’t productive for town right now, please don’t do WW3.

lol I'm literally doing this dude, but please don't imply I've done something wrong here, because I've been chill AF

[Morning Mage]

I presume everyone is onboard with Chemist then with either Bell or Math?

I do give Math some points. He's stuck to his guns about his theory before it was his neck on the deciding block.

What it really boils down to is it Bell or Math as the last partner? Neither has pushed scum. Neither has really scumhunted. Math I see evidence of trying to work with us, albeit reluctantly (after the note). The only thing Bell has done of note is try to wagon SS day one.

yup

[Morning Mage]

chemist being a lurksack could very well mean they are scum but now I worry that its a Bell/Math b/c remember that Bell said to leave Titus till last?

but then again the correct play is just eliminate them all.

it can't just be Bell/Math though, as there's 1 scum in TGP-Shelly-Chemist.

[Morning Mage]

whatd i do

You didn't. I was explaining what BM did to DESERVE my rage

deserve? pfft, grow up.

[Morning Mage]

I presume everyone is onboard with Chemist then with either Bell or Math?

I am not. I may look like the greatest idiot of all pre-game, throughout the game, AND post-game, but my solve

right now

and gun to my head would be chemist + shelly

[Morning Mage]

I think shelly and TPG were in two of the grouping to make us want to eliminate there first.

i agree

[Morning Mage]

morning reminder that both scum are going to be in chemist, bell, math anyways so...

why do you think I needed this reminder? I'm not forgetful lol

[Morning Mage]

chemist today>>>>shelly sacrifices herself in the hood or gets eliminated>>>math>>>>bell

town win!

Bell Math

I'm pretty sure of it. I'm following MM here.

Titus, keep this up, and you'll go far. I'm excited to see what A50 does now you're following me.

[Morning Mage]

I'm following MM here.

no you aren't b/c MM thinks Math is scum.

i do, but i dont see the point in hooding him. if chemist is scum, hood Bell and then Math next.

[Morning Mage]

Well MM is wrong.

actually i was right on that one, you just misunderstood what Titus said.

[Morning Mage]

I think I'm being reasonable by trusting thetwo players more closely aligned with the town and have been more prone to caution.
MM doesn't count because he's both annoying and wrong, the worst combination.

lol dude you realise everyone thinks you're scummy? singling me out when I'm actually giving you the benefit of the doubt, does you no favours. And lord knows you need some favours.

[Morning Mage]

Why would you even believe Math isn't lying. That's what's perplexing me.

yes

He's a town/neutral 3P doctor with an unknown wincon.
Seems legit.

yes

oh so you want shelly or TPG to suicide to "confirm" maths claim.


i think you are just getting played like my lute

Nope. If a suicide doesn't end the game, then we argue Bell v Math but with Math proven as a liar. At that point, I would favor executing him.

what!? No!!

[Morning Mage]

VOTE: chemist

here goes nothing!