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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:50 pm
by Alchemist21
Read the very next sentence in that post.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:59 pm
by Creature
Are we all ready to lose if Taylor is town here?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:59 pm
by Creature
I'm still confident they're wolf. Mostly looking for the nightplans.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:01 pm
by Creature
Also I agree on Infinity hiding on Bulge and Alch tracking me.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:02 pm
by Creature
If V&M are scum I should probably be able to take a 1v1 against them.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:51 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 724, Venus and Mars wrote:Well, Alch is obviously clear and we do know that Bulge didn’t kill Gamma.
really? did i miss something?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:54 pm
by Infinity 324
I really don't think alchemist can be scum, with only 2 strong PRs 6v2 is rough for town

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:00 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
yeah disregard that, i figured it out.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:05 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 773, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 771, The Bulge wrote:did I miss something? why are so many people removing creature from their PoEs with the same confidence as if he were mechanically cleared
I don't think creature has the capacity to fake what he's done this game as scum. The way V&M defended creature on d1 also didn't feel like a scumbuddy defense, so I'm trusting their read somewhat.
which of the four posts couldnt be faked?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:21 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
like i get that mechanically its a good play to go for me, but it doesnt make sense. as scum, why do i claim ascetic? it seems like strange double-think to both believe that im being honest about being ascetic but also that im scum.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:23 pm
by Infinity 324
It could look suspicious when people are blocked when trying to target you

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:24 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 810, Infinity 324 wrote:It could look suspicious when people are blocked when trying to target you
except they wouldnt know why their actions failed

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:48 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 804, Creature wrote:If V&M are scum I should probably be able to take a 1v1 against them.
Only way that happens for me is if you, us and Alch are the last players alive in the game because fmpov it would mean I’d have to be wrong about you being town here but that is extremely unlikely to happen. In fact, I bet the game that it doesn’t.

~Mars

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:54 pm
by Venus and Mars
I think Infinity is town. Sorry Tayl0r and Bulge but you two are the least townie and I actually think we’ve got this game solved.

As long as neither of you endgame, I don’t see how we lose.

~M

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:00 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 773, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 771, The Bulge wrote:did I miss something? why are so many people removing creature from their PoEs with the same confidence as if he were mechanically cleared
I don't think creature has the capacity to fake what he's done this game as scum. The way V&M defended creature on d1 also didn't feel like a scumbuddy defense, so I'm trusting their read somewhat.
In post 806, Infinity 324 wrote:I really don't think alchemist can be scum, with only 2 strong PRs 6v2 is rough for town
Is this really the easiest game ever?

~M

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:09 pm
by Venus and Mars
I just realized my reads are better than Krazy’s because he had it backwards. \o/

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:28 pm
by Infinity 324
I feel like bulge should be pushing the taylor TR harder. Scumbuddy indicative since he realizes taylor is probably going down anyway.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:43 pm
by Infinity 324
Other than that not a ton of associative tells. I feel like taylor would be fighting her elim harder as town, and in general taylor and the bulge are the only ones trying to question people's logic rather than coming up with their own solves. I'm inclined to townread V&M's insistence on themselves and creature being town, as well as their tone. I also want to trust my earlier scumread on taylor, and gamma's scumread on bulge. Plus bulge did make a few posts that pinged me.

VOTE: taylor

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:46 pm
by Infinity 324
If taylor flips scum and bulge is cleared, I really think V&M is the last scum over creature. Taylor's treatment of creature really doesn't feel like a scumbuddy's.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:47 pm
by Infinity 324
That's E-1 btw, creature you can hammer when you're ready

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:48 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
theres nothing for me to defend. the case on me is that people think im the best kill regardless of alignment.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:50 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 740, Alchemist21 wrote:If Infinity targets Bulge and I target Creature, then if Bulge is scum Infinity dies and Creature is cleared then we know Bulge is scum. If Infinity dies but I get a guilty on Creature then Creature can't frame Bulge. This also covers the scenario of Infinity being scum because it forces him to produce a result if he's alive; if Bulge dies and I have a clear on Creature it points right to Infinity as scum.
This is fine for night actions

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:30 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 818, Infinity 324 wrote:If taylor flips scum and bulge is cleared, I really think V&M is the last scum over creature. Taylor's treatment of creature really doesn't feel like a scumbuddy's.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=24230


Obvtown!Bulge towngame. Enjoy.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:55 pm
by Infinity 324
You love meta don't you

But yeah he was pretty obvtown in that game and I'm 85% confident it's just taylor/bulge

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:30 pm
by Venus and Mars
In post 823, Infinity 324 wrote:You love meta don't you

But yeah he was pretty obvtown in that game and I'm 85% confident it's just taylor/bulge
It’s accurate like 65% - 70% of the time, when it’s reasonably recent.

Well it’s kind of interesting that they were both questioning Creature and Tayl0r wasn’t too interested in our Bulge sl.

~M