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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:14 pm
by mastina
In post 293, Netflix and Chill wrote:VOTE: Ircher
I think I see what you do and I think I agree. :P
In post 305, Ircher wrote:Also, I'm a bit surprised you skipped RVS and went straight to speculating things about the draft.
No need for an rvs in a game where there's nonrandom role assignments. Since you can make a non-random vote from the onset, the rvs is unnecessary for a game of this type.
In post 309, Polar Bear Express wrote:Murder/Ircher/Double
Maybe me just solved half the game. that'd be cool. me wanna be a cabd too!
Okay maybe Noraa is town here since I can actually see the logic behind this solve and to some extent, agree with it.

VOTE: Ircher.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:18 pm
by Netflix and Chill
In post 797, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 791, Netflix and Chill wrote:Hard disagree mastina I get the feeling Noraas actually enjoying posting this game which IMO means she’s happy she’s town and doesn’t have to worry about rapid elim again.
This reads like total bullshit. Your entire read is based on them seeming like they are "enjoying the game"? They can't enjoy the game as scum?

- Norwee
Your vote is about as bad as the drafting teams idea

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:19 pm
by Netflix and Chill
Noraa already struggled with her tone in that scumgsme combined with her team getting ROLLED. I’m saying that given there’s no tone issue which would occur if she was scum let alone demoralized after that loss.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:19 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 801, Netflix and Chill wrote:
In post 797, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 791, Netflix and Chill wrote:Hard disagree mastina I get the feeling Noraas actually enjoying posting this game which IMO means she’s happy she’s town and doesn’t have to worry about rapid elim again.
This reads like total bullshit. Your entire read is based on them seeming like they are "enjoying the game"? They can't enjoy the game as scum?

- Norwee
Your vote is about as bad as the drafting teams idea
I don't care about the drafting team idea, you can argue with Alisae about that. I'm just here to vote scummy peeps.

- Norwee

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:20 pm
by Bell
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:20 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 798, Double the Trouble wrote:VOTE: Netflix and Chill

- Norwee
Do you think N & C claim informed townie as scum here? I would think that’s pretty stupid.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:21 pm
by MURDERCAT
Bell I think we are at the same place :lol:

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:21 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 802, Netflix and Chill wrote:Noraa already struggled with her tone in that scumgsme combined with her team getting ROLLED. I’m saying that given there’s no tone issue which would occur if she was scum let alone demoralized after that loss.
That's a lot of assumptions.

- Norwee

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:22 pm
by Netflix and Chill
We’re playing a game based on lying. Making assumptions is the entire fucking point

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:22 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 805, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 798, Double the Trouble wrote:VOTE: Netflix and Chill

- Norwee
Do you think N & C claim informed townie as scum here? I would think that’s pretty stupid.
Why would that be stupid though?
Explain to me why as scum, claiming informed townie is an inherently bad idea.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:23 pm
by mastina
In post 313, Ircher wrote:But how does being tired strengthen your read on Creature?
Because by gut I got an overwhelming feeling of, "this is scum Creature" when looking at thiat post.
In post 313, Ircher wrote:Huh? What looks scummy about Polar Bear Express at this point in time?
Literally every post until the callout of an Ircher/MURDERCAT/Double solve, which is a post that I can see as plausibly town. I'm not
sure
it's town, because it's possible to be scum making a solve out of plausibly-scummy town players, but since I can see the logic behind the suspicions, it's the first thing to give me any doubt on the scumread.

I'm not sure where Polar Bear Express belongs in my reads right now, but I felt like I should move my vote off of them given my doubt of the slot's scumness.
In post 317, Polar Bear Express wrote:No me has to take out ircher cuz ircher being towny.
Mastina/Double/Murder
In post 318, Polar Bear Express wrote:me read Dunn's posts. They keep shading me.
Dunn/Mastina/Double/Murder
For instance, these posts look terrible since they're explicitly OMGUS+reverse-OMGUS (townreading a player townreading your slot + scumreading players scumreading your slot), and it no longer flows as well.
I could see the plausible callout of Ircher/MURDERCAT/Double.
The transition I cannot see.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:23 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 808, Netflix and Chill wrote:We’re playing a game based on lying. Making assumptions is the entire fucking point
Yeah but sometimes scum makes outlandish assumptions.

- Norwee

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:24 pm
by Netflix and Chill
I don’t disagree that mastina has plenty to read me off of and latching onto *that* to top tier read me is lame

Ninja-
And sometimes they try to take on the one slot that they have zero shot to elim.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:24 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 810, mastina wrote:For instance, these posts look terrible since they're explicitly OMGUS+reverse-OMGUS (townreading a player townreading your slot + scumreading players scumreading your slot), and it no longer flows as well.
I could see the plausible callout of Ircher/MURDERCAT/Double.
The transition I cannot see.
I thought you have played with Noraa before?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:25 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 812, Netflix and Chill wrote:And sometimes they try to take on the one slot that they have zero shot to elim.
Lol, i give zero fucks how cocky any of the players i meet are. I see scummy posts i vote. If you want to tell me you're town then give it some time and maybe i'll see through it. What you're doing now does nothing for me.

- Norwee

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:27 pm
by Netflix and Chill
Well yeah, you think I’m scummy for making assumptions in a game of lying. Clearly you’re at best severely misguided.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:28 pm
by mastina
In post 375, pichu wrote:i'm confident i can show you my towny heart pooky
it may not be now
since i did just open this thread and have read nothing

but you WILL see my towny brilliance shine through
even if that comes in unconventional forms
In post 376, Ydrasse wrote:yes
(For the record I realize these two didn't really produce much content in their posting but I still liked their interactions and felt that both slots were more likely to be town after.)

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:31 pm
by mastina
In post 399, pichu wrote:pretty sure mastina asked too yeah. we got him there
Nah, I have a distaste for being scum and a distaste for FL's style of scum gameplay so I most definitely would not ask to be his lackey.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:33 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 817, mastina wrote:
In post 399, pichu wrote:pretty sure mastina asked too yeah. we got him there
Nah, I have a distaste for being scum and a distaste for FL's style of scum gameplay so I most definitely would not ask to be his lackey.
my scum tactics are fine, it's the personality of mine that sucks.

We pulled together a nice win earlier in the year with it, they're super complimentary styles.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:33 pm
by Flavor Leaf
it was pretty cool to draft because I got to think about the possibility of drafting someone so they wouldn't be a town threat, and it completely neutralizes them.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:34 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 809, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 805, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 798, Double the Trouble wrote:VOTE: Netflix and Chill

- Norwee
Do you think N & C claim informed townie as scum here? I would think that’s pretty stupid.
Why would that be stupid though?
Explain to me why as scum, claiming informed townie is an inherently bad idea.
How do you think it benefits them to do that? I mean I’ve seen scum do that too but it’s more often than not town indicative.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:35 pm
by mastina
In post 475, Double the Trouble wrote:Yo where my man Battle Mage at, he knows his shit.
Probably in the scum PT. :P

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:37 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I play high risk because I'm good at sword fighting. I can play the perfect "what should scum do" scenario, it just doesn't work, especially against players who push how certain alignments should be played.

I personally think most players don't know how to play scum, which is fine, it doesn't come easy, they mostly just coast and hope their plans work out.

Being aware of different humps to past during the game, like which days will be hardest, and how to go about getting through that stuff is something I feel I do very well, which is something scum should think about.

I put a lot more stock into mafia as a game more than the norm, though, maybe a bit too much.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:43 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 821, mastina wrote:
In post 475, Double the Trouble wrote:Yo where my man Battle Mage at, he knows his shit.
Probably in the scum PT. :P
Do you scumread BM?

- Norwee

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:44 pm
by Double the Trouble
Ops. Count that as my ego.

- Norwee