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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:40 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
like if you push mis-elims as scum in a diffferent way than you push elims as town, it would be easy to read and you would get caught.
The difference is intent and agenda
Does he re-evaluate as situation changes?
Does he apply more pressure and push for the early elimination?
It's not difficult for someone of his caliber to replicate a town-push when he is scum, but he does not have as much room to operate because he needs to get mis-elims to win.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:41 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 794, No Face wrote:Pooky you're treating me like I'm guilty until proven innocent :/
No actually that's how you've been treating me this entire game....
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:42 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I haven't even pushed you until I gave you multiple chances to re-evaluate your push on me in the light of new information and seeing that you chose to ignore it each and every time I have no alternative but to see this as a scum motivated push to kill and not genuine in trying to sort me.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:42 pm
by Menalque
Vanders you’re basically just saying I need to meta you and I’m saying I’m not doing that
I don’t think my unwillingness to do that makes my reasoning less valid
If you wanna try to present me with selected posts showing that you’re like equally opportunistic for lims when town as when scum, sure, I’ll roll it into consideration but rn u feel like scum, it’s related to how u played when we were just scum, but it’s not uniquely that
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:43 pm
by Vanderscamp
In post 758, Menalque wrote:Vanders is scummy for being like incredibly milquetoast and then exceedingly opportunistic and seems to be one of the slots that 2/3 of the bus-disincentivised pool is avoiding
Your last point is incredibly poor, anyone who is not being actively scumread by 2/3 people in that pool fulfills those conditions.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:43 pm
by No Face
Again Pooky: all I did was townread 4 players and say I wasn't townreading you
that's all I did and you put a whole load of agenda and added scum motivation to it like I'm hard driving a miselim on you
I think you really might be scum :/
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:43 pm
by Menalque
Thank u @ydrasse that is very cute
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by Menalque
Like I hope I’m not being unpleasant to anyone if I am then I’ll take a break and come back tomorrow
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 793, Menalque wrote:I literally couldnt care less about the soul circle stuff, I’m just in a slightly peppery mood and seeing pooky reach E-1 for no reason was a provocation
Meh ok
I think it's very possible you're town, the rand chance you're scum is obviously pretty low. If I had to decide right now between limming you and pooky it'd be a hard choice. Vander and no face I'm not too interested in looking at today, vander has felt more passionate than UGC and I wanna trust ydrasse on no face. Norwee and ydrasse are soulreads
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:44 pm
by Menalque
In post 804, Vanderscamp wrote: In post 758, Menalque wrote:Vanders is scummy for being like incredibly milquetoast and then exceedingly opportunistic and seems to be one of the slots that 2/3 of the bus-disincentivised pool is avoiding
Your last point is incredibly poor, anyone who is not being actively scumread by 2/3 people in that pool fulfills those conditions.
Nah fam, both skitter and bingle have gone out of their way to talk about how ur town and why in a way they haven’t for anyone else in the 6p pool
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm
by Infinity 324
I rely on PoE a lot in my reads. If you say you don't like my PoE vote, my response will be "ok, who am I incorrectly TRing and why?"
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm
by Menalque
Infinity those are terrible takes no offence
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm
by Menalque
I mean I guess the ydrasse bit is okay
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:45 pm
by No Face
In post 802, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I haven't even pushed you until I gave you multiple chances to re-evaluate your push on me in the light of new information and seeing that you chose to ignore it each and every time I have no alternative but to see this as a scum motivated push to kill and not genuine in trying to sort me.
I didn't see anything that made me re-evaluate... why does that make me scum? You reacting like this and basically forcing a 1v1 makes me feel worse about you, not better :[
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 807, Menalque wrote:Like I hope I’m not being unpleasant to anyone if I am then I’ll take a break and come back tomorrow
You're fine
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
by Menalque
V A N D E R S
&
N O F A C E
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
by No Face
I pushed you basically all game when I was Pyro and you thought I was town the whole time :~
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 805, No Face wrote:Again Pooky: all I did was townread 4 players and say I wasn't townreading you
that's all I did and you put a whole load of agenda and added scum motivation to it like I'm hard driving a miselim on you
I think you really might be scum :/
I mean that's kind of how you push mis-elims in a pool of 6 players with 1 scum.
you buddy 4 of them with townreads pretty quick, you push the other one that you think you can get votes on and then you never re-eval their position - just double down and push till they die
then tomm go re-eval your "four townreads"
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by Ydrasse
@mena you're fiiiiine even if your reads right now arent!!
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 816, No Face wrote:I pushed you basically all game when I was Pyro and you thought I was town the whole time :~
because your initial solve of 4 people was me + 3 people I was scum-reading so I knew you had the same perspective as me in the first place.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by Infinity 324
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:48 pm
by Vanderscamp
In post 792, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: In post 783, Ydrasse wrote:i know you're going to think this is like, an insane person's rambling but yes, i don't expect anyone else to understand what i'm seeing when i go like, there's a way he thinks about games that i can identify from over time that very much clicks for me as town/not town, and i'm going to feel dumb the day that comes that he's scum against me sure maybe, but like. i feel even then i'll probably have some pings that make me go ? from him and i literally have no pings right now, zero, he's town and he's town beyond the gimmick
The way he thinks about how to push an elimination as town is the same as how he thinks about how to push an elimination as scum. They are two sides of the same coin.
If it was different he would be caught as scum... The thought process doesn't change.
But if you think the way no face thinks about how to push an elimination as town and scum is the same, then why the fuck are you scumreading him for the way he is pushing to kill you?
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:48 pm
by Menalque
My reads are on fire lately
Lest we forget
Voted scum erryday I was alive
Defended town erryday I was alive
Good Mena Reads(tm) are rising in value, get ur money in now
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:48 pm
by Ydrasse
this is MY time to shine
ydrasse is PLAYING THE GAME AND HAS READS
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:48 pm
by Menalque
Pooky talk about vanders