Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:31 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:34 am
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:36 am
They'll "confirm" to their buddy or claim roleblock.In post 792, Xlos wrote:Don't kill the person who claims friendly neighbor without giving them a chance to confirm themselves + risk/reward analysis for why.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:38 am
I claimed my role
pedit: look listen we can make a deal and you can leash my FN to someone if you're so scared of me being scum and trying some play
at some point scums have to kill me or I'm confirmed, you're making the game easy for scums by limming me today
pedit: look listen we can make a deal and you can leash my FN to someone if you're so scared of me being scum and trying some play
at some point scums have to kill me or I'm confirmed, you're making the game easy for scums by limming me today
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:47 am
Like really as much as you think my role is stupid it's my role, if I was scum making a fakeclaim it'd look way more convincing than that and I've been nommed for brilliant fakeclaims before it's not pure hubris
I came in today feeling so bad because I have the kind of role people simply won't believe because it sounds outlandish and they just see my play as bad play, but again I played like this for a reason, if I can confirm myself I don't need to claim miller and eat a vig shot in the process, good way to waste my role
just give me a chance to confirm myself and allow scums to make a mistake here, by not limming me you are forcing scums to make a decision around my slot and you'll see i'm not lying
I came in today feeling so bad because I have the kind of role people simply won't believe because it sounds outlandish and they just see my play as bad play, but again I played like this for a reason, if I can confirm myself I don't need to claim miller and eat a vig shot in the process, good way to waste my role
just give me a chance to confirm myself and allow scums to make a mistake here, by not limming me you are forcing scums to make a decision around my slot and you'll see i'm not lying
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:49 am
like we wouldn't be in this mess if toog didn't roleblock me for starters, i just got entirely shafted, people wouldn't go around claiming my play to be garbage for not claiming miller day 1 if I didn't get blocked and you did receive my FN because then you'd understand my process and understand i'm just town
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:23 am
Could it beIn post 804, nomnomnom wrote:Like really as much as you think my role is stupid it's my role, if I was scum making a fakeclaim it'd look way more convincing than that and I've been nommed for brilliant fakeclaims before it's not pure hubris
I came in today feeling so bad because I have the kind of role people simply won't believe because it sounds outlandish and they just see my play as bad play, but again I played like this for a reason, if I can confirm myself I don't need to claim miller and eat a vig shot in the process, good way to waste my role
just give me a chance to confirm myself and allow scums to make a mistake here, by not limming me you are forcing scums to make a decision around my slot and you'll see i'm not lying
Because you claimed miller after you got caught?
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:24 am
If you were town, you'd be screaming that Toog is a scum roleblocker.In post 805, nomnomnom wrote:like we wouldn't be in this mess if toog didn't roleblock me for starters, i just got entirely shafted, people wouldn't go around claiming my play to be garbage for not claiming miller day 1 if I didn't get blocked and you did receive my FN because then you'd understand my process and understand i'm just town
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:25 am
I have succumbed to the temptation and suggested they might be a scum RB before, myself.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:29 am
Why would a scum roleblocker claim they blocked me it makes literally no senseIn post 807, DrippingGoofball wrote:If you were town, you'd be screaming that Toog is a scum roleblocker.In post 805, nomnomnom wrote:like we wouldn't be in this mess if toog didn't roleblock me for starters, i just got entirely shafted, people wouldn't go around claiming my play to be garbage for not claiming miller day 1 if I didn't get blocked and you did receive my FN because then you'd understand my process and understand i'm just town
Like if they're a scum roleblocker that blocked my ass why would they come forward and say they roleblocked me? Claiming they roleblocked me here actually feels pretty town to me, scum would just happy to let me get limmed and entertain the theory that I'm just a lying bitch lmao, the only thing claiming a roleblock on me does is proving I'm not lying about any of this shit and that my role is real
your arguments are so bad you don't even think them through and i'm starting to think you might actually be bullshitting me with your weird 1-shot cop claim to make me look even worse and literally lying about things that happened this game and making nonsensical arguments to somehow prove I am scum
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:29 am
If you're town, how could you not foresee that SCUM would roleblock you if you claimed to earn a power if the day ends on a prime number page?In post 805, nomnomnom wrote:like we wouldn't be in this mess if toog didn't roleblock me for starters,
And you were merely roleblocked, while Flea who had claimed nothing was killed. If you're scum, the scum won't NK you, if you get my drift.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:30 am
I think claiming flavor is really dumb
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:30 am
Nom, if you had just claimed miller D1 you wouldn't have been checked. Anyone who would have claimed to check you woulx probably be axed.
In addition, you probably wouldn't have been rolevlocked (although that depends on the whims of the roleblocker)
In addition, you probably wouldn't have been rolevlocked (although that depends on the whims of the roleblocker)
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:30 am
They're your buddy covering yo'assIn post 809, nomnomnom wrote:Why would a scum roleblocker claim they blocked me it makes literally no sense
and
they hope they can pass as town roleblocker
How can you not see that? It's pretty obvious.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:32 am
In post 812, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Nom, if you had just claimed miller D1 you wouldn't have been checked. Anyone who would have claimed to check you woulx probably be axed.
In addition, you probably wouldn't have been rolevlocked (although that depends on the whims of the roleblocker)
In post 813, DrippingGoofball wrote:They're your buddy covering yo'assIn post 809, nomnomnom wrote:Why would a scum roleblocker claim they blocked me it makes literally no sense
and
they hope they can pass as town roleblocker
How can you not see that? It's pretty obvious.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:35 am
whoops weird reply, meant to quote
first of all I'm not scum so no I'm not going to see your weirdass theories about Toog being my partner
second of all you're basically asking me to believe in a version of the game where Toog claims roleblocker to gain townpoints and risk saving a town player that is looking extremely bad (aka me) rather than shutting the hell up and cackling as I get lynched, it's a strategical bad choice coming from scum and it's less likely. Then again this is mafia and people can make weird ass plays for a myriad of reasons but let's be real here Toog is in the vast majority of cases town here. I refuse to believe he comes today and claims the roleblock on me as scum.
I tried something else man, I didn't want to claim miller and get my ass vigged when I'm a form of invest that can get themselves confirmed so I tried something elseIn post 812, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Nom, if you had just claimed miller D1 you wouldn't have been checked. Anyone who would have claimed to check you woulx probably be axed.
In addition, you probably wouldn't have been rolevlocked (although that depends on the whims of the roleblocker)
you're entertaining theories that make no senseIn post 813, DrippingGoofball wrote:They're your buddy covering yo'assIn post 809, nomnomnom wrote:Why would a scum roleblocker claim they blocked me it makes literally no sense
and
they hope they can pass as town roleblocker
How can you not see that? It's pretty obvious.
first of all I'm not scum so no I'm not going to see your weirdass theories about Toog being my partner
second of all you're basically asking me to believe in a version of the game where Toog claims roleblocker to gain townpoints and risk saving a town player that is looking extremely bad (aka me) rather than shutting the hell up and cackling as I get lynched, it's a strategical bad choice coming from scum and it's less likely. Then again this is mafia and people can make weird ass plays for a myriad of reasons but let's be real here Toog is in the vast majority of cases town here. I refuse to believe he comes today and claims the roleblock on me as scum.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:36 am
as I get limmed* I am really sorry and I'm going to get scolded again for this jesus christ
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:42 am
I'm not depending on you and Toog being partners, although it would make things easier. You'd just have to know someone blocked you as scum. There are several avenues towards this without having Toog be scum. Some of them include you being a straight up goon.In post 791, nomnomnom wrote:Okay I'll play.
Let's imagine the world where I am scum here.
I got roleblocked last night by Toog, that is confirmed by them. A kill happened last night, and in a world I am scum it can't possibly come from me. So that means in that hypothetical world I am scum, you are banking your theory that the third partner had to be some sort of investigative that targeted DBG. That is very unlikely, and that wasn't was happened.
Ockam's razor says I am simply town here. Think about it two seconds.
I don't get the same Razor calculations that you do at all.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:48 am
VOTE: DrippingGoofball that insistence on Toog being scum and dgb insisting to try and fit every scenario into me being scum without any real consideration, plus the weird 1-shot claim, plus the no reconsideration when I claimed miller before any type of guilty was claimed is just not right
I'll give it to you it's possible
That still doesn't explain how, as scum, I could magically predict that DGB is cop here. Like yeah it's the easiest deduction to make but everyone knows on this site that cop is a role that doesn't make it often into games because it's seen as strong and bad design and moderators prefer to put other invests in games. It's not as simple as you make it out to be.
The only reason I suspected DGB might be cop with a guilty on me is because I'm miller so i know there's a higher chance of a cop being here, that's the simplest explanation.
I am just town and I got seriously unlucky this game by getting blocked
okay so your theory is that I might be scum that knows I got blockedIn post 817, Titus wrote:I'm not depending on you and Toog being partners, although it would make things easier. You'd just have to know someone blocked you as scum. There are several avenues towards this without having Toog be scum. Some of them include you being a straight up goon.In post 791, nomnomnom wrote:Okay I'll play.
Let's imagine the world where I am scum here.
I got roleblocked last night by Toog, that is confirmed by them. A kill happened last night, and in a world I am scum it can't possibly come from me. So that means in that hypothetical world I am scum, you are banking your theory that the third partner had to be some sort of investigative that targeted DBG. That is very unlikely, and that wasn't was happened.
Ockam's razor says I am simply town here. Think about it two seconds.
I don't get the same Razor calculations that you do at all.
I'll give it to you it's possible
That still doesn't explain how, as scum, I could magically predict that DGB is cop here. Like yeah it's the easiest deduction to make but everyone knows on this site that cop is a role that doesn't make it often into games because it's seen as strong and bad design and moderators prefer to put other invests in games. It's not as simple as you make it out to be.
The only reason I suspected DGB might be cop with a guilty on me is because I'm miller so i know there's a higher chance of a cop being here, that's the simplest explanation.
I am just town and I got seriously unlucky this game by getting blocked
Edit: Vote adjusted for VCer.
~Ircher
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:53 am
Nom, talk to me about your nonDGB reads.
DGB, talk to me about your nomnomnom reads.
This 1 v 1 makes it harder to read the rest of the game.
DGB, talk to me about your nomnomnom reads.
This 1 v 1 makes it harder to read the rest of the game.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:00 am
try saying nonnomnomnom 5 times really fast you're in for a tripIn post 819, Titus wrote:Nom, talk to me about your nonDGB reads.
DGB, talk to me about your nomnomnom reads.
This 1 v 1 makes it harder to read the rest of the game.
as I said I think toog is town, no reason for them to out their roleblock on me from my POV as scum, definitely town
I've had town gutpings on Xlos and A50 before
Also I saw nobody talking about this, nobody did a wagon analysis on Flea before which is weird
There's almost certainly scum on that wagon right, and I think Toog is most definitely town, I am town, and I've got gutpings on A50 being town here, so like again there should be scum in {wheme,Titus,T3,Jake} (i count him in despite him not counting for the hammer just because of how he voted on Flea)In post 460, Ircher wrote:Flea The Magician (7) (HAMMER @ 422): WhemeStar (189), Toogeloo (299), Titus (312), DrippingGoofball (352), Almost50 (368), T3 (398), nomnomnom (422), Jake the Wolfie (430^)
I think Jake looks the worst here but I'm curious about you guys opinion on this, like there must be scum that has created this wagon in the first place
@Titus
: you have history with mathblade I wanna know your thoughts about him so far, I've had some pings about the fact he didn't want to hammer me and from my POV that just could be scum that is scared of making me flipPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:02 am
I forgot DGB in there you get the idea
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:11 am
I'm finding the way Math's treating me as odd but nothing's out of his townrange. Math's on my watch list. Him being so deferential is odd but his thought processes are closer to town Math.In post 820, nomnomnom wrote:@Titus: you have history with mathblade I wanna know your thoughts about him so far, I've had some pings about the fact he didn't want to hammer me and from my POV that just could be scum that is scared of making me flip
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:55 am
I tried something else man, I didn't want to claim miller and get my ass vigged when I'm a form of invest that can get themselves confirmed so I tried something elseIn post 815, nomnomnom wrote:whoops weird reply, meant to quoteIn post 812, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Nom, if you had just claimed miller D1 you wouldn't have been checked. Anyone who would have claimed to check you woulx probably be axed.
In addition, you probably wouldn't have been rolevlocked (although that depends on the whims of the roleblocker)
No vigilante worth their salt would kill a miller claim for claiming miller. Any vigilante who does that might as well fake a redcheck on another townie.
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:37 pm
676690In post 802, DrippingGoofball wrote:They'll "confirm" to their buddy or claim roleblock.In post 792, Xlos wrote:Don't kill the person who claims friendly neighbor without giving them a chance to confirm themselves + risk/reward analysis for why.
Are you really going to question the TL;DR and ignore the answer I already gave? You should've at least read 676.
And how do you feel about the fact that A50 made us do it for no reason?In post 811, WhemeStar wrote:I think claiming flavor is really dumb
I feel like I should point out 792 again. A50's claimed role is 100% a lie.