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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:07 pm
by catboi
In post 797, inutile wrote:
In post 784, inutile wrote:
In post 783, inutile wrote:
In post 781, humaneatingmonkey wrote:do you think catboi is scum, shiki?
only if going for the like 'no outs' thing
which i mean does happen, but not all that often
actually this:
In post 746, catboi wrote:I had actually been feeling fairly good about Infinity and she was the one I had in mind for clearing but I wanted to revisit the ISO first.
is kinda hmm
Why's that?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:09 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
I want to suggest for inutile to trust Infinity when they're ready, but I'm still trying to measure how willing Infinity would confirm a town that has expressed a scumread on her. It was way easier to trust Murdercat at that point. Scum isn't desperate. S_S leaving the way he did points towards his partner being in a good position in the game.

Meanwhile, I want to eat shit and trust catboi right now.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:10 pm
by inutile
In post 800, catboi wrote:Why's that?
potentially negates the 'no outs' aspect

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:10 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
inutile, I think there's an angle that you could be scum because I've experienced that you become more convoluted and you draw patterns out of the most trivial stuff as scum.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:11 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
making a read based on what Prism said in a thread where she was a spectator and applying it here is what i would call convoluted. meanwhile, you could have made the more obvious move and extract a read based on things you got here.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:12 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
i think catboi is town because he was trying to call out S_S the same way as I was when it was completely unnecessary to do so, and would hurt their strategy.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:13 pm
by catboi
In post 802, inutile wrote:
In post 800, catboi wrote:Why's that?
potentially negates the 'no outs' aspect
I'm not sure what you mean by this?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:13 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
If we create Monkey, inutile, Infinity, catboi townblock, we can leave behind dannflor and murdercat.

however, i'm still not 100% on inutile even though i want to be 100% on her.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:13 pm
by inutile
In post 804, humaneatingmonkey wrote:making a read based on what Prism said in a thread where she was a spectator and applying it here is what i would call convoluted.
it wasn't based on what prism said? it was based on prism being aware of the fact that menalque was universally scumread for that very thing very recently? and i read that game during dead silence because menalque was upset about it

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:15 pm
by catboi
In post 805, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i think catboi is town because he was trying to call out S_S the same way as I was when it was completely unnecessary to do so, and would hurt their strategy.
I think some form of cursory distancing is necessary in a setup like this, though I'm not sure I'd potentially be trying to kibosh my own partner's potential escape, regardless of how distrusted I was. That just feels anti-wincon.

Of course, if you do it, it'll be be even more egg on Prism's face, which is fun~

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:19 pm
by inutile
In post 806, catboi wrote:
In post 802, inutile wrote:
In post 800, catboi wrote:Why's that?
potentially negates the 'no outs' aspect
I'm not sure what you mean by this?
like it felt like you could only be mafia if you were going for the no outs angle, like 'i can't be mafia, look at the position i'm willingly putting myself in, leave me behind,' et cetera

but the above seems counter to that

like either because town
or saw an opportunity

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:22 pm
by catboi
In post 810, inutile wrote:
In post 806, catboi wrote:
In post 802, inutile wrote:
In post 800, catboi wrote:Why's that?
potentially negates the 'no outs' aspect
I'm not sure what you mean by this?
like it felt like you could only be mafia if you were going for the no outs angle, like 'i can't be mafia, look at the position i'm willingly putting myself in, leave me behind,' et cetera

but the above seems counter to that

like either because town
or saw an opportunity
I feel like my responses to HEM would indicate more of that, my intention of possibly clearing Infinity was because I felt she was town, not because of any anticipated reciprocity.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:25 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 807, humaneatingmonkey wrote:If we create Monkey, inutile, Infinity, catboi townblock, we can leave behind dannflor and murdercat.

however, i'm still not 100% on inutile even though i want to be 100% on her.
I think we still win this scenario like 80% of the time

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:25 pm
by inutile
In post 811, catboi wrote:I feel like my responses to HEM would indicate more of that, my intention of possibly clearing Infinity was because I felt she was town, not because of any anticipated reciprocity.
hm. these just run into eachother to me. like clear infinity to be paired with either to get out of no outs situation?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:27 pm
by catboi
In post 813, inutile wrote:
In post 811, catboi wrote:I feel like my responses to HEM would indicate more of that, my intention of possibly clearing Infinity was because I felt she was town, not because of any anticipated reciprocity.
hm. these just run into eachother to me. like clear infinity to be paired with either to get out of no outs situation?
Eh, I don't know. I don't think me clearing infinity should be taken as any sort of a towntell, certainly. But that's just me trying to solve.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:35 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
dannflor might shed a new light into this game

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:43 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
can someone sell me into dannflor scum narrative

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:49 pm
by catboi
Had a somewhat awkward post with s_s that I quoted earlier, has felt a bit disconnected/removed lately. I don't know, I don't feel that strongly about it. There was that bit earlier though where I wrote a post saying "hmm, maybe dann isn't so bad" and as I went to post it I saw he made a post at that same time saying he wasn't scumreading me as much, felt like we were having a ~moment~ but I also would not bet on him based on that. I love fencesitting.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:53 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
murdercat, who do you think the next pair should be?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:36 pm
by Dannflor
That sucks

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:38 pm
by Dannflor
for whoever / people who are town reading inutile

why?

not that I scum read them but I genuinely feel I don't know how to read them and I would much appreciate a case in one direction or another

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:39 pm
by Dannflor
I'm so shit at reading ss

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:41 pm
by Dannflor
I'd appreciate if no one else left until I have some time to more fully catch up tomorrow

I don't really think Murdercat is scum which means that proposed town block of HEM loses us the game

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:54 am
by humaneatingmonkey
How long do you need? Why does the common towntells not apply?

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:57 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 822, Dannflor wrote:I don't really think Murdercat is scum which means that proposed town block of HEM loses us the game
Wow that is so scummy