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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:47 am
by Ich Troje
VOTE: ich troje

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:00 am
by Enchant
There's no Wi-Fi.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:41 am
by Ich Troje
i know town nsg likes to essentially flake out of games ,does it happen as scum? if thats not the case we can safetly probably bin the slot as safe to not hell.

also
v/la until potentially august 5th, got irl stuff to get done and mafia getting in the way

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:46 am
by Dannflor
nsg is generally known to have more WIM as town

she gets busy as either alignment though

speaking of, nsg I'd like to know where your reads are at when you get the chance

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:47 am
by Dannflor
also apologies for my absence the last couple days, I still have to read EoD, I'll be more present in a few hours

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:52 am
by Ich Troje
I see, my sample of town nsg games was 1 where she was a townstump so I'll trust you on that one then

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:56 am
by Dannflor
I think the general stereotype/reputation of NSG as a player is that she has an excellent town game, so excellent, in fact, that meta is an strong tool to catch her with when she's scum. she also tends to prefer town and has a much higher posting rate and WIM when town. I think she *might* tend to make more time for games where she rolls town but i wouldn't consider flakiness or lurking to be strictly AI *by itself*

nsg can feel free to correct me on any of that assessment obviously but that's how I assess the general perception of her as a player

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:56 am
by Dannflor
ich troje if you had to vote someone who wasn't yourself this phase, do you know who it would be?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:59 am
by T3
In post 798, Ich Troje wrote:Why did you want to save farren
Enchant was a slightly higher scumread.e

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:00 am
by Ich Troje
In post 807, Dannflor wrote:ich troje if you had to vote someone who wasn't yourself this phase, do you know who it would be?
Flow trap would be my top choice

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:01 am
by Ich Troje
also after me yall 100% need to turbo farren into hell

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am
by Dannflor
In post 809, Ich Troje wrote:
In post 807, Dannflor wrote:ich troje if you had to vote someone who wasn't yourself this phase, do you know who it would be?
Flow trap would be my top choice
I know you're going on V/LA now but if you could briefly case this for me at some point I would appreciate it

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 am
by flow trap
If Ich did "that" on purpose, they're so town :lol:

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 am
by flow trap
In post 807, Dannflor wrote:ich troje if you had to vote someone who wasn't yourself this phase, do you know who it would be?
For me, I would've said T3 a few days ago, but now I'm unsure

Probably Ich tbh

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:05 am
by Farren
In post 799, Ich Troje wrote:
In post 789, Farren wrote:Oh yeah, twilight is a thing. I can post until flipped.

Hope you've got a lot of good explaining skills, Enchant, because that was a pretty scummy last minute vote there.

Last words: keep Ich Troje out of heaven.
You know you werent being limmed here
I do now. I didn't then.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:21 am
by Farren
In post 810, Ich Troje wrote:also after me yall 100% need to turbo farren into hell
Not happening if I have anything to say about it. Either of these things.

I do not risk my life like that as scum unless there is a significant reward outweighing the risk. T3 could easily have switched back to me, and I'd be dead instead.

The only way scum|me doesn't have to worry about that is if T3 is scum as well. In which case, that entire song-and-dance is completely unnecessary, and everything was faked.

And there's no way scum|me could fake that ending, unless *Enchant* was scum and in on it. The timing was too tight unless I know it's happening in advance. Given that Enchant didn't say anything until *literally* the last minute, and given that Enchant flipped Town - not possible.

As for you - no. Not how after you ended D1. If you're Town, I strongly recommend taking a step back and looking at things again. Because otherwise, this is not going to end well for either of us.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:23 am
by Farren
For the record: I am not advocating to be sent to Heaven today.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:24 am
by Farren
T3: Why didn't you switch back to me when you had the chance?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:24 am
by flow trap
In post 815, Farren wrote:I do not risk my life like that as scum unless there is a significant reward outweighing the risk. T3 could easily have switched back to me, and I'd be dead instead.
T3 does not seem like the type to pull that

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:25 am
by flow trap
In post 817, Farren wrote:T3: Why didn't you switch back to me when you had the chance?
See post 808?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:50 am
by Farren
Missed that. Thanks.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:50 am
by Farren
VOTE: Esooa

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:04 pm
by Ich Troje
In post 815, Farren wrote:
In post 810, Ich Troje wrote:also after me yall 100% need to turbo farren into hell
Not happening if I have anything to say about it. Either of these things.

I do not risk my life like that as scum unless there is a significant reward outweighing the risk. T3 could easily have switched back to me, and I'd be dead instead.

The only way scum|me doesn't have to worry about that is if T3 is scum as well. In which case, that entire song-and-dance is completely unnecessary, and everything was faked.

And there's no way scum|me could fake that ending, unless *Enchant* was scum and in on it. The timing was too tight unless I know it's happening in advance. Given that Enchant didn't say anything until *literally* the last minute, and given that Enchant flipped Town - not possible.

As for you - no. Not how after you ended D1. If you're Town, I strongly recommend taking a step back and looking at things again. Because otherwise, this is not going to end well for either of us.
these are the ramblings of scum desperate to explain their actions. You were only concerned with self preservation. Nothing else. If you were town who really thought I was scum, you let yourself flip there and then your town flip would be pretty decisive for that. But no, I do not believe you flip town here. And my town flip here will prove you are full of shit.

You're in full anti-spew mode and you know you won't be sheeped here.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:05 pm
by Ich Troje
In post 811, Dannflor wrote:
In post 809, Ich Troje wrote:
In post 807, Dannflor wrote:ich troje if you had to vote someone who wasn't yourself this phase, do you know who it would be?
Flow trap would be my top choice
I know you're going on V/LA now but if you could briefly case this for me at some point I would appreciate it
It was to do with Flow pointing out that as scum they get consensus townread d1 - which IS true. I've played with both town and scum flow. Town flow got scumread to fuck all d1. Same happened early D1, until it was pushed the reverse based on the previously cited meta. Scum flow was able to appear towny and was ONLY caught via a scum flip that game where he "Reverse spewed" himself.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:06 pm
by Ich Troje
If you're not sure on flow, if he doesn't look like scum associated with the flip once a scum flips, he should be much clearer then from others' POV.