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either DGB is just trying to draw the NK

its a troll thing we do on the site

I've thought Gamma was scum since 321 and have been trying to entrap him since. I think I have enough now.

VOTE: Gamma

Gamma has said in the past that as scum he makes this kind of post about a buddy in order to gauge whether there is any interest in eliminating them. It let's him know if a bus will be necessary, and if nobody bites, it indirectly can have the effect of taking his partner off the table for the day. I think what is happening in the rest of these posts here is not WKing, but is scum!Gamma defending his buddy

In post 321, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 319, Ydrasse wrote:it kiiiiinda feels like you're digging in your heels and i don't get it

Do you think scumFinity does that here?

This is the "testing the waters" post. I think he is preparing to bus infinity if things go south for her, but the wagon never takes off enough.

In post 436, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 412, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:

In post 403, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 398, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:House truly null, Gamma and Pooky in null because they've both done things that are lightly towny and lightly scummy, and to me they feel balanced out.

tbh I think Pooky is slightly towny rn

What do you think of this part of 308 re: Infinity's push on Skitter?

In post 398, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:In Infinity's discussion with skitter, I really felt like I was being white knighted at first. I didnt say anything because I wanted to see how long it would go on, and it seemed to me that any push on skitter there was heavily tied to defending me. I'm going to reread this and see what I think today though.

I'm also curious though, as to why Pooky seems townie to you

I didn’t get that sense initially but I might see it on reread (this is not saying I’m necessarily gonna

do

a reread of it)

Here I noticed that Gamma didnt address my read on Infinity. I put her so low on my list in part to troll for a response from Gamma. I felt like he intentionally avoided it when responding to that post, so I followed up specifically asking him what he thought of Infinity, trying to get him to commit to a stance, because I felt like he was sitting fence. And he continues to ride the fence in his response.

In post 439, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 423, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:

In post 414, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 400, Infinity 324 wrote:how do you distinguish between a white knight and just me townreading you

@ssbm

White knighting is used to counterattack skitter here. Essentially the same words could be used to TR me in a different context, where I'm not being pushed by skitter, and that's the distinction. It's because it's tied into your push on skitter who was pushing me at the time. You were using a defense of me in your push on skitter, rather than just explaining a TR on me. It's the context of the words that distinguishes the wk from the tr

VOTE: infinity I want to do this or DGB right now in the interest of consolidating a bit

Why would you vote DGB to consolidate, doesn’t it have like no votes?

Doesnt address my infinity vote but steers the conversation towards DGB.

In post 442, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay why are DGB and galron in your bottom 3 reads?

Doesnt mention the third of my bottom 3, which was infinity at the time.

In post 462, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 456, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 454, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 448, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 445, Gamma Emerald wrote:Infinity what’s your thought on Yrdasse atp?

probably town

That’s pretty much what I expected
Can you elaborate why though?

i felt like her townread on skitt was good and especially that she expected me to put weight into it. that's a towny bias

I still think it's unlikely scum!ydrasse is like, i need to show i'm excited to be town in my first post

cool cool

This whole interaction is theatre

In post 465, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 461, Tetrina wrote:Hmm okay Gamma do you think you and Infinity as 2 scums makes sense?

Not really
I feel like our combined trajectory would be different given this would be the second time we rolled scum together to my knowledge and the first one was a tragedy, so I’d definitely want to avoid the same pitfall we fell into before

I think this reveals that Gamma has been thinking about the last time he was scum with infinity, probably because he's rolled scum with her this time.

In post 468, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 453, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Gamma what's your read on infinity now then if you're not necessarily going to reread her and skitter?

A light TR, though cautious because although I don’t really remember it well I think last time she was scum against me I wasn’t very good at reading that
And just generally I’m not certain her play isn’t coming from scum yet

Here he is still holding fast to a "light TR" which is the same verbiage she uses to describe her read of him, but at the same time he is still poised to flip on her at any moment by hedging on "I'm not certain her play isn't coming from scum yet". Infinity also says something similar about Gamma, that she light TRs him, but isn't sure yet. Eerily similar imo - it feels rehearsed.

In post 489, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 487, DrippingGoofball wrote:It's been my experience that infinity is an "easy scumread" - a weakness that scum would definitely exploit.

Infinity, have you had a disproportionate number of scum on your final wagons? Including scum that suspects you but may be voting elsewhere for cover?

*strokes beard thoughtfully*

The only purpose of this post is to draw attention to 487, which if DGB is town, can be used in defense of Infinity at a later date after DGB flips. DGB is not exactly highly regarded, but Gamma is. If he draws attention to it, people might pay more attention.

In post 493, Gamma Emerald wrote:DGB and Galron’s current posting is making me feel like kyouko may have a point

Using my case for cover, and moves to Galron to begin with. I do think these 3 are the team and that Gamma is bussing Galron here.

In post 498, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Galron

In post 575, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 574, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:

In post 507, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:

In post 471, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:So what about her current play seems to be coming from town, but may actually be scummy play that you're not sure of yet?

This was for Gamma but got ninjad

@Gamma

For context, since we're further in the thread: "her" is Infinity

Her push on skitter felt genuine to me, as did her approach to reading me, though I think the skitter push is a stronger point

I had to ask a few times to get him to respond, I think he thought I might drop it because i was preoccupied with other posting. I was staying busy elsewhere as a facade though because I wanted him to keep his guard down as much as I could because I just caught him recently in mini 2217 owners market blitz

In post 577, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not quite
I could potentially see that being the case but think Infinity is towny atm
So it’s DGB/Galron/? for me
To be clear I don’t think DGB and Galron coming in like they did is an indicator Infinity is scum, moreso that they seemed to feel pressured

I think putting DGB with Galron here is more of a ploy to prepare to move his vote off of Galron when it becomes possible.

In post 623, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 619, Galron wrote:I think Blade Dancer is Titus. If not, I dunno.

Okay this might be town :/
I feel like this wouldn’t happen if Galron had a scum PT
VOTE: DGB

This I feel like is a weak ass reason to swap the votes and that feels orchestrated to me.

like im trolling ydra to draw a NK by saying ill protect her

and DGB is trolling me by saying she's the actual doctor then oops you were joking

its a comedy routine we have

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

i'll be honest I didnt read a damn thing Kyouko wrote

That sounds convoluted but I'll take your word for it if DrigppingGoofball can confirm

this site is very convoluted

I'm gonna believe DGB is just trolling and sheep my obvtown read.

VOTE: Gamma

In post 800, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:either DGB is just trying to draw the NK

its a troll thing we do on the site

Now everybody is in on it!

its better than an actual doctor counterclaiming us rando trolls

In post 801, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:DGB is not exactly highly regarded

In post 808, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its better than an actual doctor counterclaiming us rando trolls

A real troll counterclaim us.

In post 801, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Gamma has said in the past that as scum he makes this kind of post about a buddy in order to gauge whether there is any interest in eliminating them. It let's him know if a bus will be necessary, and if nobody bites, it indirectly can have the effect of taking his partner off the table for the day. I think what is happening in the rest of these posts here is not WKing, but is scum!Gamma defending his buddy

If you’re referring to the post directly below that’s actually not how I tend to do it as scum
I tend to feign cluelessness by asking “what’s the points on X again”?
That was a more pointed and intentional question asking about something I felt was not scummy on a theoretical basis

In post 478, Tetrina wrote:

Morning Tweet: Are the callers talking to each other?

MT ignored me

are you trying to pockit me with your evil ways

In post 748, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:skitter tetrina infy cephrir

y infinity

I have a lot of experience with scum infinity

i have a strong tr on gamma btw

you could be masons with gamma i'd still vote the guy out

i don't have aproblem with the pbpa, i can understand the thought process that led him to rereading her iso there

In post 803, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald

i'll be honest I didnt read a damn thing Kyouko wrote

It's garbage and I am going to sheep the stinking trash out of it.

VOTE: Gamma

FYI I think kyouko is town for the attempt though, that’s an impressive commitment to the read even though it’s wrong
Like, that sort of entrapment play I don’t feel like scum would legitimately try on me, if they do try to entrap me it typically reads way grosser than that

I've already moved on my dear

In post 819, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you could be masons with gamma i'd still vote the guy out