Open 828 | The Brethren Coalition | Game Over!

Pavowski · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:29 am

In post 799, Nathann wrote:2. Hakai's recent aversion to having specifically me in the Coalition makes no sense.

I am also a little puzzled at this.

MathBlade · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:34 am

In post 792, MathBlade wrote:Site is loading super slow for me so gonna call it a night. Can someone who townreads Cyrus tell me why please?

A lot of people ignored this. Can you please respond to this? Thanks!

Pavowski · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:36 am

The coalition with 3 votes at the last VC has picked up a 4th. Anybody intending to become the 5th person to offer this coalition should declare intent to hammer it.

Personally I won't hammer that one unless we somehow find ourselves about to fail to form a coalition, as any coalition is better than none. But there are 3 players in there that I have serious doubts about.

Pavowski · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:42 am

In post 801, MathBlade wrote:
In post 792, MathBlade wrote:Site is loading super slow for me so gonna call it a night. Can someone who townreads Cyrus tell me why please?
A lot of people ignored this. Can you please respond to this? Thanks!

Cyrus's posting and play just feel town-aligned to me. I can't say I find it super-towny or effective, but it seems to come from genuine intent.

That take has taken a hit after his back-and-forth with you, though, and I don't love his willingness to toss out most of what he seemed locked in on earlier in the thread, but I remind myself that Cyrus's motivations are beyond the understanding of us mere mortals. His hesitation to lock anybody in particular into the coalition also feels town to me.

Nathann · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:45 am

Okay, I bothered to get my ass up from the couch and grab my phone charger, I'm still around for some time.

In post 800, Pavowski wrote:
In post 799, Nathann wrote:2. Hakai's recent aversion to having specifically me in the Coalition makes no sense.
I am also a little puzzled at this.

I figured it was weird, but only after I posted the post I consciously realized why I thought so - Hakai was saying nothing when I was picking up Townreads and getting into people's Coalitions. He said either nothing about me or mentioned one or two posts that he liked. (!!!) Then, there's a Coalition on the rise that doesn't have me in it (and this is after a period during which I was asleep, meaning I wasn't really posting), and all of a sudden he is strongly against me and me specifically being in the Coalition? Right.

Enchant · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:47 am

MathBlade, Pavowski, Enchant, ssbm_Kyouko, Farren

This Coalition gonna win? Bah.
Can't we replace Math with Cyrus?

Nathann · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:50 am

Re Math and my Townread on cyrus, it was mostly that the guy felt really uninformed. Whatever he was posting felt like it was just what he was thinking and it felt pretty agendaless. I might take some time to go through his ISO tonight and iron out my read on him if you really want, but I am kind of lazy, and if this Coalition you proposed is actually about to pass, I don't feel like doing that extra work if it's not gonna be useful for me. (I'm assuming it will pass since I'm assuming either Enchant or Kyouko will end up voting for it. Oh no, I said the words "I'm assuming" twice in the same post, in the same sentence even.)

Pavowski · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:44 am

In post 806, Nathann wrote:Re Math and my Townread on cyrus, it was mostly that the guy felt really uninformed. Whatever he was posting felt like it was just what he was thinking and it felt pretty agendaless. I might take some time to go through his ISO tonight and iron out my read on him if you really want, but I am kind of lazy, and if this Coalition you proposed is actually about to pass, I don't feel like doing that extra work if it's not gonna be useful for me. (I'm assuming it will pass since I'm assuming either Enchant or Kyouko will end up voting for it. Oh no, I said the words "I'm assuming" twice in the same post, in the same sentence even.)

I agree with your thought on Cyrus.

I'm not sure how likely this coalition is to pass.

Farren · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:01 am

In post 799, Nathann wrote:Not sure where exactly that Coalition started happening, but seeing that Math was the first vote for it, that pretty much kills any Townread on him I had for not wanting into the Coalition. Hakai's vote for it with almost zero elaboration is sketchy and possibly partnery for Math (or anyone who is in it, really).

Mathblade agreed to sponsor a Coalition that cyrus proposed, then cyrus proposed it, then Math voted for it, then cyrus voted for it.

So while you're right that Mathblade voted for it first, it's a little more nuanced than how it sounds.

For anyone that's both in the Coalition and nervous about it passing - I will point out that this is a Nathann-free Coalition, and as such may attract ssbm_Kyouko's attention.

Nathann · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:09 am

In post 808, Farren wrote:I will point out that this is a Nathann-free Coalition, and as such may attract ssbm_Kyouko's attention.

This, I'm straight up assuming this Coalition gets hammered the moment Kyouko catches up on the game.

Farren, are you voting for the Coalition because oyu believe in it or because you're testing reactions? If the latter, how's that going?

Farren · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:10 am

In post 801, MathBlade wrote:A lot of people ignored this. Can you please respond to this? Thanks!

My townread on cyrus isn't as strong as it was, but I still don't think that scum|cyrus rocks the boat like this given the gamestate.

His actions would only make sense if he still had a partner in there, and I'm not seeing a lot of options for that - or if this was some big bluff to try to regain lost towncred.

If this is a scum bluff, it's on the verge of being called.

Farren · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:18 am

In post 809, Nathann wrote:
In post 808, Farren wrote:I will point out that this is a Nathann-free Coalition, and as such may attract ssbm_Kyouko's attention.
This, I'm straight up assuming this Coalition gets hammered the moment Kyouko catches up on the game.

Farren, are you voting for the Coalition because oyu believe in it or because you're testing reactions? If the latter, how's that going?

I think the odds of this passing are not zero, but I certainly wouldn't put any money on it (even if not prohibited by site rules). Maybe 40% chance of passing?
This is more of a reaction test - and so far I've seen at least one juicy bit of info that I don't think we would have picked up otherwise. (Hakai endorsing it. Would not have expected that.)

Farren · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:21 am

That makes two people endorsing it that aren't in it.

Make that 20%.

Pavowski · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:26 am

Suddenly townier on Farren.

Nathann · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:57 am

Wanna join me and Save The Dragons then?

Nathann · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:59 am

This is totally not an evil plot to get you to do the reevaluation of cyrus yourself that I can then sheep because I am lazy.

Pavowski · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:09 am

In post 815, Nathann wrote:This is totally not an evil plot to get you to do the reevaluation of cyrus yourself that I can then sheep because I am lazy.

Not sure I need to re-evaluate Cyrus. I still think he's town, I just don't love his play and the fact that he's getting tilted here by Math.

You and STD have the same coalition, huh? Hmm...

Pavowski · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:11 am

Actually yeah, I'll roll with that one for the moment.

HURT: Hakai

HEAL: Farren

Pavowski · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:18 am

Unless I'm much mistook then, that puts the coalition of:

Save The Dragons, cyrus62, Pavowski, Nathann, Farren

At 3 votes.

Save The Dragons · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:43 am

In post 799, Nathann wrote:I'm currently a bit short on time. I skimmed, I will properly catch up tonight, but quick points I wanna make.

1. Kyouko has still not addressed the fact that she misunderstood the post she first Lock!Scumread me nd has not gone over it again. The one post she called "a lot of words with no conclusions" or whatever had stances and not like I haven't had content this game. Unlike some others.

2. Hakai's recent aversion to having specifically me in the Coalition makes no sense.

3. That Coalition that is currently at Y-1 is godawful and I will truly be floored if that passes.

Not sure where exactly that Coalition started happening, but seeing that Math was the first vote for it, that pretty much kills any Townread on him I had for not wanting into the Coalition. Hakai's vote for it with almost zero elaboration is sketchy and possibly partnery for Math (or anyone who is in it, really).

Be back tonight, hopefully.

this is a great post

Save The Dragons · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:46 am

In post 801, MathBlade wrote:
In post 792, MathBlade wrote:Site is loading super slow for me so gonna call it a night. Can someone who townreads Cyrus tell me why please?
A lot of people ignored this. Can you please respond to this? Thanks!

i've already said this in multiple ways but i just don't see scum!cyrus posting whatever's on his mind as he has been in this game. if he can do that as scum, more power to him but if I were someone like cyrus who posts whatever the fuck's on my mind i would be a lot more careful as scum than I would as town for fear of posting something incriminating.

cyrus62 · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:49 am

In post 805, Enchant wrote:MathBlade, Pavowski, Enchant, ssbm_Kyouko, Farren

This Coalition gonna win? Bah.
Can't we replace Math with Cyrus?

No I want out unless you lot scum read mb.

cyrus62 · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:11 am

HURT: all

Pavowski · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:12 am

In post 821, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 805, Enchant wrote:MathBlade, Pavowski, Enchant, ssbm_Kyouko, Farren

This Coalition gonna win? Bah.
Can't we replace Math with Cyrus?
No I want out unless you lot scum read mb.

Really puzzled by this. He's saying replace Math with you. Are you insisting that in addition to pulling Math from that coalition, they also think of Math as scum?

Like seriously, what are you doing, here?

cyrus62 · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:21 am

In post 823, Pavowski wrote:
In post 821, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 805, Enchant wrote:MathBlade, Pavowski, Enchant, ssbm_Kyouko, Farren

This Coalition gonna win? Bah.
Can't we replace Math with Cyrus?
No I want out unless you lot scum read mb.
Really puzzled by this. He's saying replace Math with you. Are you insisting that in addition to pulling Math from that coalition, they also think of Math as scum?

Like seriously, what are you doing, here?

the whole point of me putting math in to the five was math said any five with me in it is sure to fail. So unless they scum read mb I want out so when it fails I don't have blood on my hands.