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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm a pugilist when I'm town fighting scum in elo as well Bell.

The thing you are pointing out is utterly NAI.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's a serious question pooky.

What's 2+2?

Your spam is getting even worse

Good night bell

maybe you can read Cakes a bed time story or count to 20,000.

Make it good

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you know bell's out of sensible things to say when he tries to pretend that Day 2 happens before Night 1

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't believe I am here at 1 am and responding this his latest bullshit kitchen sink attack

what am i fucking doing with my life

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cakes said ralts was scummy

i said lets vig him

cakes said you're ralts

I said let's not vig him

you are clueless

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i should be asleep

have fun making up more bullshit dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you trying to make an ate cake or something?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Happy Birthday btw :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This does have parallels to Death Curse.... Desperately flailing scumbag on his birthday tries to win a large theme after sneaking through to endgame :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Who replaced ralts?

dats me

idrc what ralts did lol

-Bell

ok this is a little funky yeah

how is this funky?

why would i care about what ralts did?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what content is bell even talking about

all his posts are is "im town"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i can post "im town" 500 times too

i dont because its just pointless spamming

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

2214 was in response to wisdom saying he thought ralts was scummy

bell just taking shit out of context now

this isnt hunting this is just nonsense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Titus and Sircakez can feel free to explain themselves to the rest of the town post game for why they couldn't spot you.

-Bell

this is just more ate/fearmongering

he is trying to put fear into you of making the wrong decision to get you to vote for me.

he keeps talking about a post game where you have to explain why you didnt catch me to try to make you feel bad about it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Compare Bell's ISO in Death Curse to his ISO here. It's completely different.

The way he treated me with complete respect and a solving proactive attitude to the flaming you had to see for the last three days is night and day different.

These are blunt force AtE attacks designed to make you feel bad and get you to distrust your own beliefs.

I know because I'm somewhat of an expect on AtE and emotional manipulation and the sort of shit scum do in these situations.

Here's a way for you to understand why his AtE on you today was mostly faked scum emotions:



Notice that AFTER I called him out for having a completely different ISO in this post:



He began more fatalist AtE about how he's doomed etc.

THEN you told him his AtE isn't working for you





he then flips on a dime and goes from insulting you for your incompetence to being a good solving puppy dog willing to do anything you want!!!!!!



And now instead of just rage AtEing he's back to fake solving and trying to suck up to you.

He changed tacks because he realized that his fake anger at you was not going to cut it and immediately changed tacks.

That doesn't actually happen with

real

emotions. Because real emotions are difficult to control... If he's actually town, he can't just change his mindframe from "why the fuck can't this moron cakes see this" to "i need to solve better for cakes let's work together" in a minute. That's not a real progression that a mind goes through, you need time to calm down and stop feeling angry/upset.

He's changed his presentation because he realized fake anger wasn't working and rage ateing wasn't working... so he changed on a dime to a more reasonable approach.

The transition being so short AFTER being told its not working is a dead give away that the AtE is coming from a faked perspective and not the real one he has.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@SC

You told me that I am Ralts in the PT on Night One.

The quotes that Bell is quoting are from Day Two...

Day Two happens AFTER Night one.

So obviously I know I'm ralts on Day Two AFTER you told me I was ralts on Night one.

and how is there even any scum motivation to lie about who I am ?? Like what even is this line of thinking?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm shocked that Bell has now discovered I play differently in different games as if this wasn't known to him already....

Absolutely shocking news.

It's almost like every game has different players and different rules and I do whatever I think is fun with that playerlist/ruleset rather than follow the same rigid playstyle every game.

absolutely wild I know.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's actually wild he's trying to use my various town games to try to attack me as if me being different in WH13 or Among Us is somehow like surprising.


Among Us Mafia had a very cool mechanical deviation, I was interested by it so I signed up and tried to exploit the mechanical deviation. I then used that mech talk to scum hunt.

This game does not have a giant mechanical deviation for me to exploit, so I didn't do that.

In WH13, I was playing with a more serious group of players, so I was more solvey/tryhard.

Because the game was more solvey/tryhard.

Compare the environment in WH13 to the environment here.

It's completely different.

I'm not going to play solvey/tryhard in a game full of people memeing and having fun. I'd rather join in the memeing and having fun because that's just human nature.

I play mafia for

fun

I don't play to tryhard win every game because that's just not very fun for me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Which btw ties back into my scum game and what I enjoy doing as scum.

I enjoy killing good guys.

I don't enjoy killing my own partners.

I don't really do bussing because it's boring to me.

I'd much rather elim good people and then laugh in the scum pt with my team about it.

That's why Bell isn't analyzing my scum games - he knows he won't find shit there, He won't find me bussing my team or killing my team because that's NOT how I play scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is a tactic Pooky has tried in smokefilled chamber. Essentially pocketing another player and then getting them to do something anti-town to make him seem more mechanically clear than he actually was.

There are a lot of differences but the jocketing for a better position is similar. Also, as mentioned Pooky let me blow myself up in that game, which is why I was skeptical along with his fondness for sharing the Petapan story that he wasn't capable of shooting gyphx as scum.

-Bell

He's now claiming a suicide bomber blowing up to kill a Mason Cop is the same thing as a Scum Vigging Another Scum.

Bell has officially gone full 100% crazy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so now I'm supposed to be skeptical of SC

the dude who handed me gypyx on a plate and encouraged me to iso him and said he'd be down for vigging him

the dude who was like HELLL YEA TOWNSTOMP when gypyx flipped red.

the dude who was literally loyal neighborized

just delusional stuff

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like what is Bell even doing at this point?

Are these really the thoughts of a town player?

No these are not.

These are crazy thoughts because Bell scum has nothing so he's got to throw up whatever crap he can.

He figures SC is going to hammer him probably so he's got nothing left to lose.

Might as well keep throwing till the end cuz he's got nothing left to lose.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes I'm supposed to be skeptical of Cakes

who helped me vig a scumbag on night 1

and who was loyal neighborized by Firebringer

Does this really make sense to anyone here?

I'm not the crazy one here right?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Happy Birthday Bell.

Hope you spend your time on things that are more enjoyable than spamming this thread full of nonsense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Happy Birthday Bell.

Hope you spend your time on things that are more enjoyable than spamming this thread full of nonsense

.

In my opinion, Pooky does not say the bolded part as town, if you want to talk about knowing Pooky on a personal level perhaps apply your knowledge of him there. To note, I do not know Pooky that well as a person and don't really understand his underlying motivations. We haven't really interacted outside of games of mafia.

-Bell

I don't want you to spam endlessly because it is boring and tiresome to refute every bullshit accusation you make.

Such as this one.

It is baseless

There is literally no reasoning provided.

and it doesnt even make any sense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup notty / bulge.

how's it going in the scum PT?

you ready to die of a heart attack?

so basically I'm a compulsive Loverizer on D1 and I loverized Cabd cuz I wanted to hang out with him before he got shot.

I'm also a post-death neighborizer so I could carry his words to you guys.

Anyway Cabd neighborized Skitter/Mena last night and after talking to them he's pretty sure they're baddies and they were going to shoot him.

Anyway he says Skitter/Mena is like 5000% scum

he also said the last scum is probly Gamma cuz Mena or Skitter slipped when they talked about him or something like that.

Cabd says the d1 wagon is probly all town and you're his top town read so you get to bring the word of our Lord and Savior to the Masses.

His kill order list is like BridgeBurners -> Gamma -> Ceph -> Catboi (He wrote Peta instead of Catboi but since Peta isn't playing this game I'm gonna assume he was just drunk and wants to kill Peta really badly oer something)

Luke looks pretty townie lol

WE COULD HAVE HAD A DOCTOR IF WE DID LOLWAGON ROFL

ceph tonally sounds pretty townie

Cabd is probly just right on SkitterHydra/Gamma

lulz

the slip that mena made about gamma was that cabd was going over the people who were "threadghosting" when the wagon gained steam and mena/skitter forgot to mention gamma or something like that and talked about everyone else.

Also gamma sounds like he's thrown in the towel at this point and Mena sounds like he's upset that we wagoned his scumbuddy before he even got to play the game.

I kind of agree that rushing people is bad manners but like cabd was drunk and we're easily influenced :3

gamma isnt even playing

red team has thrown in the towel.

I think she gave up

I would probly give up too at this point.

could be distancing but I think Cabd would be happy with his Mena -> Gamma solve at this point

scum feel pretty demotivated

just tell them that pooky and cabd both agree that the scum team is probly just skittermena and gamma.

itll be obvious what happened night 1 after my card flips

Neighbor PT. He was fairly contentless in thread. There's a lot here that I feel is invalid. or not helpful for you in these posts Sircakez, esp. Because in tarot pooky was, in fact totally contentless except for one post in game (total) but that was in a rushed day phase, as compared to here where. it's been a few months since the game started. but in that game, underneath the hood he was in fact thinking and solving in a PT.
With someone he thought was town, but just in case he reaction tested with a joke at the opening of the neighborhood.

- Bell

In this game

we bumrushed marci scum.

she died

then i talked with drunk cabd for one night

he told me the last 2 scum were skitterhydra and gamma

told me to neighborize notty/bulge and get them to kill the last 2 scum

i neighborized notty/bulge

made a joke to troll them cuz its funny to joke with your friends

then told them all about what cabds solve was.

he is reaching to say my hood play is different

of course it is different

the game is completely fucking different and i was playing with a completely different set of circumstances

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also here's the important reason why my play in that hood is different...

I was already dead and that hood was open for exactly ONE day, at the end of that day I will pass into the great beyond silenced forever AND Cabd had drilled it into me to get me to force his reads down everyone else's throats

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Cabd told me the last two scum are Skitter-Hydra/Gamma because

he was in a hood with them and they slipped

I then repeat this to Notty/Bulge Hydra in my PT.....

I'm literally conveying a message from someone who is guaranteed town since he is dead and FLIPPED TOWN and who is VERY good at scum-hunting/sorting in hoods

It is very simple and very easy to do.

I don't know if you've noticed but Cabd isn't in this game to give me a solve to give to Sir Cakes so this entire comparison is a fucking joke

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and btw what the fuck is the point of reaction testing notty/bulge in a PT that only I/them have access to?

if I figure out notty/bulge are mafia am I going to somehow talk to OTHER people and tell them? No I literally can't do it because I'M DEAD.

Am I going to not tell them the info that Cabd conferred to me? Am I going to ignore Cabd's reads?

Like none of this shit makes any sense from you. "You're just making up a narrative where ooh pooky played differently in a hood this game where he was town so he has to be scum here!!!"

Which is a complete load of crap because that game was not even remotely the same as this game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Repeating "I'm town" 6000 times is not solving Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's funny as hell to me that you continue to allege I'm not solving while spamming to disrupt me any time I go into solving mode

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Whereas I am happy to let you post your fake solve bullshit because I know it's easy to debunk since it's all artificial gibberish nonsense filled with logical fallacies and lies.

In fact I encourage you to post as many solves as you want so I can ruthlessly refute each bullshit lie you come up with.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you see Bell I don't have any fear because I know I'm town.

I don't have any worry at all that you can come up with anything I can't debunk easily because I've played against plenty of scumbags who fake solve at the end.

The more you post the more I can show you to be a lying scumbag

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Your only hope is that SirCakes gets bored of reading all your gibberish nonsense and decides to just give in and vote me because he's tired of reading.

That's why we've been going for the last 40 pages or w/e with you throwing all sorts of complete garbage at the wall hoping that something works.

You need to keep firing because none of your reasons are any good, you are trying to go for volume of garbage because you don't have a single quality reason.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you didn’t have any fear, using your own arguments, you would not feel compelled to address my arguments. As you have mentioned before.
I am afraid because of aforementioned reasons regarding Sircakez positions and what he has chosen to focus on.

-Bell

LOLOLOLOLOL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I let you fake solve because I know your solve is fake bullshit and I can easily debunk it and show your reasoning to be a bunch of gibberish nonsense.

The fact that I can debunk it doesn't mean Cakes would 100% be able to see through it - those are completely different things.

If you just spammed 600 posts in this thread and I was completely silent I'm pretty sure you would claim I'm frozen scum and unable to address your case!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like you're literally comparing my hood play from a game where:

I am already dead so the game will know I am probably going to flip town or w/e.

Cabd literally solved for both scum and handed them on a platter to me and told me to tell NottyHydra to finish them.

I am literally unable to post in the main thread

because I'm fucking dead

to my hood play in this game...

Which makes literally no sense.

You are just scum spewing a massive volume of garbage at the wall hoping something breaks your way.

You don't have anything good. All you can do is spam nonsense and hope Cakes gets worn down.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This arena of 1v1 back and forthing is your speciality, not mine.

-Bell

I am literally responding to the nonsense you are saying.

Are you actually trying to blame me for responding to your posting?

Are you saying Town!me would not respond to your garbage shitposting?

That I'd lay down and just let you spam post uninterrupted?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So you’re saying you’re afraid Sircakez will be fooled by my arguments and so you need to address all of them.

I don't know if Sir Cakes will be fooled by your massive pile of garbage that's up to him.

I have a responsibility to the rest of the town to respond to it because that's literally how the game works.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Arenaing is what you like. Painting yourself as selfless and without ego is an excuse for a lack of curiosity and sheeping and also virtually at odds with every other town player’s comments in this game.

-Bell

I'm literally just responding to your spam bullshit and debunking it.

You can choose to stop spamming whenever you want

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Once again. A red flag is that pooky has demonstrated virtually no curiosity in this game.

Just making shit up now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You turned in a blank piece of paper Pooky.

I submitted my homework. Even if it is an F-

I've literally debunked every nonsensical argument you've made but sure keep trying to claim I have done nothing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like I know what you're doing dude.

I know cuz I used to do this shit a lot too so I understand how it works.

You don't have anything good to hit me with because I'm town and you're a scumbag

So all you can do is spam the thread full of random bullshit.

and I debunk it because it's mostly just random bullshit that's easy to debunk if you apply any level of critical thinking to your accusation.

So when it gets debunked and you look like shit, you just move on to the next accusation.

Cuz after a few days of this everything just blends together and nobody really remembers the shit you're saying.

And it goes on and on and on.

Your goal is to have so many accusations that Cakes just gets tired of reading through them all and loses his ability to actually think about what actually does matter.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I play differently with different people and depending on how much time I have and how much effort I think the game will require to win.

I do not go 1000% tryhard solving in every game I play.

I usually only tryhard in one game at a time. if that.

I didn't do any tryhard solving in this game because I thought it would be a lol townstomp.

I didn't know we'd still be playing on day fucking ten.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't really do anything for your paranoia dude :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hey. I've read all of your recent posts. Pooky's and Sircakez.
i'm going to go off and then let the chips fall where they may. I'm not going to quote stuff which would no doubt make my arguments more convincing but I'm just going to be honest and see if Sircakez is able to detect sincerity. i could quote things and makes this more convincing but I won't.
you'll just have to reach the right conclusion by yourself from after this last post from me sircakez.

-Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is the part where Pooky calls that AtE in an attempt to discredit but it’s okay because /logic/

this literally is ate

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hey Cakez dumb question (TO CAKEZ NOT TO THE BEAR IF YOU INTERUPT ITS A SCUMCLAIM BEAR)

How’d we get a night result after all other scum flipped? If you remember, the mods confirmed a small error occurred AND the OP says scum can’t multitask unless otherwise noted

Has anyone other living player actually confirmed your night result?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's actually wild that we've now come full circle back to AtE Bell.


Like just the other day Cakes told Bell/Notty that their AtE wasn't working because it looks nothing like town!bell

so Bell decided to try to put his "solving hat" on in one last desperate attempt to "sort" pooky with a bunch of quotes.

These quotes were so bad he dug his way to China and ended up making himself look even worse.

Now he's going to stop quoting and making it worse and decided to go back to AtEing cuz lol why not.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How the fuck is another player supposed to confirm a night result

You're claiming that you can't be scum because you did ____ at night and scum don't have multi tasking.

Except there's literally 0 proof that you did ____ at night.

It's like saying you cop checked yourself and found yourself to be innocent as fuck

like you're just trolling at this point right?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You could be a JOAT with 1 shot shitty role cop

You're literally saying you can't be scum because your power is too weak

when we don't have any fucking clue what your actual power is

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You know for someone such an expert on Bell you sure suck ass at telling when he’s not posting despite me REPEATEDLY saying I’m not signing and he is

But /logic/ amirite

wtf does this even mean

I'm talking about Bell's last post

it's literally all AtE

and here comes notty to with the mech gibberish hail mary like lol what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What’s the mod error then Pooky?

If I’m lying what’s the error

how the fuck would I know what the mod error is?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No no, you can’t backtrack

You said my role wasn’t true

What’s the mod error bear

I don't KNOW WHAT YOUR FUCKING ROLE IS

SO I DONT KNOW WHAT THE MOD ERROR IS

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I know the mod error has nothing to do with MY ROLE

It could have something to do with your other ability you didnt claim

it could have something to do with a dead player

You're trying to say "oooh there's a mod error therefore I'm conftown!!!" which is a giant load of crap

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Remember when you said that Pooky was likely not scum because you presented him with 4 options and he intentionally shot Gyphx?
Pooky recently posted and he said he didn't suspect you in part because you handed him Gyphx on a platter, implying you solved for Gyphx or contributed greatly to his own read with your insight.
You know this isn't true, and it isn't true. Pooky chose who to shoot and you were correct there. The reason he says this now is because he thinks that's what you want to hear. You just looked past it. In my opinion, you have looked past a lot.

Wtf is this?

Cakes gave me 5 names to shoot.

He was pretty enthuiastic about Gypyx

I looked at Gypyx iso for a few min and thought hey this looks like scum gypyx

i said sure lets shoot gypyx

cakes no hesitation is like all for it

bam gypyx flips very powerful scum backup role

At this point I obviously believe in Sir Cakes

oh and he also said he was neighborized by FB and claims he's going to tell FB in FB's hood that he vigged Gypyx to see if the mafia shoot him.

and then FB claimed he's a loyal neighborizer

and then FB died and flipped loyal neighborizer

WHERE THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GET PARANOID OF CAKES

LIKE R U SERIOUS

AM I SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT IN SOME WORLD CAKES COULD BE A GODFATHER VIG-HOOD?

LIKE SERIOUSLY WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is the part where Pooky calls that AtE in an attempt to discredit but it’s okay because /logic/

this literally is ate

This is the post you called AtE last

This is me

But Cakez is ignoring the blatant discrepancies because /logic/

No

I responded to Bell's "last post" to Sir Cakes about "seeing the sincerity in his heart or whatever bullshit line he used"

and memed about it being AtE

Notty then jumped on me for saying it was AtE when it clearly is AtE

You're not going to lie about AtEing and pretending it's not AtE that's just whack

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

rofl one person spamming shit into a thread wasn't enough they're going for the full court press where both of them spam at the same time wowowow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you vote us though you're going to feel small because you were ultimately manipulated by Pooky the entire game.

this is literally AtE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"If you vote for me you r going to feel like a n00b"

Is literally the fucking definition of AtE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gotta love it. If you don't think I know that's AtE then you're silly.

-Bell

Notty seems to think it's not AtE so maybe get your hydra on the same page buddy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

First off,
my biological father was abusive. he left when I was about 3. As a teenager I examined that abandonment. I used to get angry a lot. I also thought I didn't want to be like my father. I stopped insulting Sircakez because I got that bubbly sensation of being mad, everyone experiences anger differently, but my ears burn, my eyes widen, and I feel like a bottle of pure acid is coming up from my throat and I am about to say or do something that I should not do. I do not like how my anger makes me feel both during being angry and in the aftermath of that anger. I used to throw tantrums a lot as a kiddo.

this is also AtE

and not even true because in this post you are insulting SirCakes later so wow

hats off dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Wow now they're spamming about a jailkeeper move that happened 6 days ago

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this really is some kind of all out spamathon

do you guys really think if you hurl enough shit at this thread eventually Cakes will knuckle under and break?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is this really what we're doing now?

Let's just hurl everything pooky did in every scum game and every town game ever

and everything that happened in this game

doesn't matter if it makes sense or is incriminating or whatever

as long as it happened

heck let's hurl it even if it didn't happen!

Volume Over Quality

Spam Spam Spam till you win

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Where’s the nightkill bear?

I don't know I'm not mafia

this isn't even incriminating because if it was you would've used it to push me on day FOUR instead of randomly pushing on day TEN

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is literally you running out of ammo on day 10 and deciding to start digging through the refuse heap of half remembered dreams to hurl whatever is left at me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not insulting Sircakez by saying he's going to feel bad if he picks wrong and that I think he is currently not great at mafia based on my observations of him this game. I have insulted him before and have rage posted more personal attacks that were frankly terrible and just show I'm not a good person. But not that I'm scum.

My partner is a lovely person. I love him dearly.

-Bell

Yes it's definitely not an insult to call someone a small person if they dare to vote for you in an internet game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is me refusing to give in when scum me would have given in by now*

Also a lie

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It wasn’t as incriminating with more suspects

But now we’re down to two

One of whom was blocked the night of a no kill

They can do the math

Yea it's like you didn't care about it until you actually needed it to push me in a 1v1

awfully convenient winkyface

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I also want to note that Pooky has largely compared his positive reinforcement to our negative reinforcement.

yup

I love this line.


"I am good because I am insulting you and trashing you with negative thoughts"

"Pooky is bad because he is a nice person"

Except I'm literally nice almost all the time and I don't really give a fuck about losing so I rarely ever ragepost.

and you can literally see from the Death Curse Endgame that Bell is not a toxic flamer when he's in an endgame as town, he is cold and logical and solvey.

This is not the same Bell. He has nothing here except AtE, Insults and a solve that isn't worth being printed on toilet paper.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like he thinks if he beats you with enough insults and spam you will just give in or some shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow

now they are going to congratulate each other for solving the game

w i l d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didn't know the spam could reach this level of absurdity but it did

I wonder what they will spam about next

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

A lot of your analysis falls into the pointing out the obvious and pretending that I'm actually being secretly manipulative. When I know exactly what I'm doing and know that I am just tantruming and saying whatever I think will make Sircakez change his mind because I don't like it when I don't get my way. It's not a great thing. That's not really AtE though. That's an honest assessment of my behavior and why I stopped that and deleted most of those posts before they came out. I've gotten genuinely mad a lot this game. It's a part of caring. But I don't like it.

You are literally channeling rageposting to get SirCakes to vote for me.

It's a form of AtE

LLD is quite good at rageposting as well.

Here's the thing you don't do nearly as well as her.

You are too much in control of your rage and you redirect it multiple times.

Like when Cakes tells you your AtE isn't working.

You stop, drop and become an obedient solving puppy dog.

That's not a real transition.

If you were town with GENIUNE RAGE that SC can't see what you're saying,

You would get MORE MAD when he tells you your ATE is not working.

You certainly wouldn't immediately cool off and ask him what type of cute solve he wants.

That's not human.

See you are actually angry

Angry that you're so close to winning but you are still so far away

and you think if you channel that anger about possibly losing, you can fake it and

make it look like you're angry he's wrong.

Emotions don't work like that.

When LLD channels her rage in her scum game, she doesn't change emotions on a dime because she understands that looks fake,

There is a nuance in her scum rage that is missing in yours and it's a dead give-away that your rage isn't actually

genuine

To fully embrace the dark side of rageposting, you needed to let it all go.

Burn it all. Relentless attack No Quarter No Mercy. That's the only way to make it convincing and get to that last step, bully SC all the way into submission.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@pooky where’s the missing kill

I am not mafia

I don't know where the missing kill is.

You know I don't know where it is because you know I'm not mafia.

This shit happened on day 4.

You're bringing this shit up now because you are out of bullets and desperate for anything you can find.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Imagine comparing bell to LLD

Well he did start talking about his father abandoning him at age 3 so it reminded me of her.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and I'm not saying he's anywhere near her level of rageposting skill

I'm pointing out where he fucked up on his AtE

You need to maintain the same emotional state

You can't have sudden changes on a dime based on how the target of AtE is reacting

because changing your emotional output to match the target's emotional output is a dead giveaway that you're using fake emotional mirroring.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Titus- did you go and read the early part of that day? Note: the only scum alive at that point were imaginality and Pooky. Imaginality couldn’t multitask and use his ability to fuck with results/use the rolecop and act in the same night

@Titus and SirCakez

Can we not repeatedly post the same thing that's been posted like 13 posts ago

this is just spamming just for spamming's sake at this point.

You put your post in giant size 70 letters i'm sure they will see it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why wouldn't scum shoot TIL on Night 4 to prevent her from outting another result?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Oh i see what you're doing rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma is a nonconsecutive rolestopper.

That means Gamma can't protect TIL 2 nights in a row.

Scum are using Perish Song + Normal Nightkill as shooting twice in a row to make sure TIL dies because Gamma can't protect her BOTH nights

Now they're trying to claim it would not make sense to do a nightkill on TIL because Perish Song is already aimed at TIL.

Except a nightkill on TIL PREVENTS HER FROM OUTING A NEW RESULT.

So the nightkill on the nokill night on TIL actually serves TWO PURPOSES

(1) If it goes thru - TIL gets silenced a day early and that's one less result for town

(2) If it gets blocked by Gamma, it gurantees the Perish Song shot on the next night goes through and the scum are free to nightkill whoever on that night rather than use their nightkill on TIL.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Remember TIL at this point in the game is the MOST important role in the entire town as she's a unlimited shot cop and she's actively narrowing down POE.

If she gets a single extra investigation off, Milo is completely screwed.

They need to silence her as soon as possible

The only way to do that around a nonconsecutive Role stopper is to do consecutive shots on her, if the first shot doesn't work, the 2nd one goes thru.

Either they gain tempo as she won't be able to out a result or they gurantee she dies the next night.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Perish song is NOT a strongman shot

its just a normal nightkill

Day -> Night -> Day -> Night three phases later.

They just pre-selected her as a nightkill and then shot her on the night before as well to make sure she has to die since gamma can't protect her twice in a row.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Wow Pooky, you sure seem to know an awful lot about how the perish song would interact with a potential rolestopper!

cuz i know how to read dumbass

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i know how to debunk bullshit cases because I've had a lot of practice

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

But you didn't even realize you replaced ralts tho.

-Bell

what does this even have to do with anything?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

not knowing the person you replaced isn't even a fucking dumb tell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Dwlee was...

Spoiler:

Altaria / チルタリス / Tyltalis

Humming Pokémon

Pokédex Number: #334
Height: 3'07" (1.1 m)
Weight: 45.4 lbs. (20.6 kg)
Gender Ratio: 50% Male / 50% Female

COTTON GUARD:

The user protects by wrapping a body in soft cotton
◓ Once at night, you may target another player with your cotton, disallowing any non- actions from affecting that player

PERISH SONG:

Both user and foe faint in 3 turns.
◓ Once, during any phase you may sing to another player, you and that player will both faint three day/night phases later.

You are a member of

Team Rocket

You win when your numbers are equal to that of the

Town

or nothing can prevent this from happening

Night starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-10-28 23:00:00) from now

Does this look like a normal nightkill ability to you? Given how Perish Song typically works in game and how it’s phrased it would make more sense to act like a poison than a nightkill.

Fainting = nightkill


I asked the mod about this the first night I replaced in

nice try tho

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I already debunked your shitty last minute hail mary

might want to work on something new for that spam cannon

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why the fuck would you ask the mod about that as town?

-Bell

i'm a vig and fainting is literally in my role pm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um so?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Good luck with that argument

I asked the mod in the PT

and Sir Cakes can literally read the answer the mod gave.

Our vig shot is literally called "fainting"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol i love how I debunked your argument and now you're back to reduction

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol i just asked the mod and he said perish song would be stopped by a role stopper

pretty sure you knew that already

nice try Milo

keeping me on my toes with new stuff I like it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yup

I also asked him if I could post his answer to thread and he said yea in case you're wondering about trying to get me modkilled for talking to him.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Mod

Would Perish Song if it resolved at Night be blocked by a Rolestopper?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i already said his answer was yes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes

It's really shocking

That I would not know the role of a person who is alive

but I would know the role of a person who is dead

I wonder why that is....

Maybe it has to do with flipped roles being public information or something that I can just click.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and you said you could post it.
So post it. I don't disbelieve the answer. I just want it.

-Bell

I posted the answer

it was literally the word "yes"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Perish song can only be stopped IF IT WAS USED AT NIGHT.

It was used during the day.

Holy shit why r u even lying about this everyone can fucking read the role PM and the mod answers

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

literally your entire iso today is made up nonsense and lies lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've literally been modkilled at Elo before so what's your point dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like maybe you wouldn't do it

Good for you?

Let's hug it out I still luv you both.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I actually can't wait for the next bullshit argument you guys make up

this is kind of exhilarating

a non stop rush.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh oh its back to angry AtE Bell

yikes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's ok I have my anti-swear glasses on, they're designed to repel curse words

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

one sec I'm gonna make you a meme just to show no hard feelings <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yup

I also asked him if I could post his answer to thread and he said yea in case you're wondering about trying to get me modkilled for talking to him.

this is not accusing you of trying to modkill me

this is me telling you that I ran my answer by him to make sure it was ok to post to thread

you're just looking for something to be offended by at this point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you know what the words "in case" means?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so you know I'm not accusing you of doing said thing right?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this conversation is completely pointless lol

this is just your spam strategy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have no self control : [

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am the one who wrote that sentence.

So it's meaning.

Is the one that I understand.

You can't repackage it into a different meaning that you want.

And even if it was that meaning it literally isn't even alignment indicative so what are you talking about?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Is it when resolved or when it is targeted at the player?

It can only be stopped during the phase the action is initially used.

??

Does Perish Song actually function like Poison and not a delayed nightkill that triggers later?


Like if Dwlee uses Perish Song on D3 -> N3 -> D4 -> N4

Does that mean the rolestop has to be on D3 to block the Perish Song Effect or would N4 Rolestop block Perish Song?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Uh, because it implies that we would be interested in a win in which you were mod killed and that we shouldn't try that because you already checked with the mod.
It's insulting either way.

Ok I'm sorry for insulting your integrity can we go back to discussing the actual game now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

you do realize this just makes me look more town right lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I'd know what my own team's abilities are rofl

i didn't even know that shit was a poison until just now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pretty funny how you knew it was a poison tho enh

wink wink

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think he aims that low when he's town.

how is that comment even aiming low?

i'm not saying you are mafia because you would try to modkill me?

I just said I double checked all my mod communications

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You killing TIL one night earlier still denies the town an extra result. Being able to deny an extra result is worth the risk of having the kill be blocked.

Also it's not like having a kill blocked is a big deal when the game is all about removing clear generation. It's a game of POE.

Plus you get to use this bullshit about a blocked kill to push your mis-elim at endgame so what did you really even lose?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Killing TIL early stop the generation of an extra clear

its functionally equivalent to killing a cleared player

except if she investigates you the game is over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you trying to dumb tell that you don't know why you shot TIL on Night 3?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like this isn't even 3rd grade scum strategy dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I love that you're trying to use a mech case to kill me

but when I point out the giant hole in your mech case

you throw up your arms and claim you don't know mech

ok dude sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh cool

fake hydra dissonance

awesome

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

one head tries to use a mech case to kill me

while the other head claims he doesn't know any of the mech being discussed

this is truly another level of comedy we've reached

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its ok after I debunk Notty's Mech case and he pounds me for another hour or so you can resume AtEing SC or whatever

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Maybe ISO me in a few more town games and talk about how I'm different player from how I played in 2005 or something

go wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't even know what your question is at this point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nah I think I’ll let it ride on the mech case

If that won’t sell them nothing will. I’ve done more than enough here.

Phew

I was worried you guys would just keep spamming for another 50 pages ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not even talking to you

I'm talking to Notty

The Person who made the mech case....

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like if you're just going to pretend you dont know anything about mech

can you just stop talking to me about it?

like whats even the point

you're just going to fake that you dont understand what we're talking about

or maybe you really dont know what we're talking about because notty never bothered to explain it to you

either way its utterly pointless for us to be talking about mech.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok good talk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you're just trolling me for fun at this point it's cool

love you long time dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol ok

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

btw I love that when everything failed you went back to the bullshit that didn't work 7 days ago to try to refry it and sell it as fresh pizza when it's expired and debunked already.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and not 7 real time days

7 game days.

truly some epic shit

can't wait for you to bring my meta from 2004 into play too

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It sounds like your argument is that scum must've double tapped the same target, which isn't think good.

-Bell

it's not a double tap the kills literally happen on different nights

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ngl the only AI shit that actually happened tonight was you guys showing that you knew Dwlee was a poisoner and I had no idea that's what dwlee was lolol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so thanks for that scum slip I guess :3

winkyface

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you probably would be doing better if you just stuck to the AtE and didn't keep digging a bigger hole for yourselves.

Cuz despite what SC says about not being vulnerable to AtE, I think he kind of is.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

guy who has spammed the thread full of nonsense

complains about spamming

w i l d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like its p obvious the strategy is to hurl a different plate of bullshit at the thread every night

and hope one of them tastes good to SC

cuz at this point

what have you got to lose?

lololol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i just had an epiphany in the shower while thinking about your "case"

In the world you are asking everyone to believe in.

Which is that Pooky is some kind of Mastermind Deepscum who has been chosen to go DEEPWOLF and get massive towncred by vigging his own partner and then trying to bus his own godfather and the godfather later apparently "takes a dive" with a shitty fake claim and distances off Pooky to "give him towncred"...

Why the fuck is Pooky the one doing the nightkill on Night Three!??!?!?!?!

Like how does that even make sense? If I'm the deepscum that is sacrificing his teammates to go DEEPWOLF, shouldn't it be Imaginality who is doing the nightkilling!?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no I hadn't even claimed the vig part at that point yet how was I not suspected?

and why would it even matter for imaginality to get owned if the plan was for me to deepwolf ? lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm laughing so hard dude. You totally forgot your own case against me because you've thrown so much bullshit at the wall you've forgotten which state you're in.

its like you spent a week trying to case me as super deepwolf pooky who sacrificed his teammates to go uber deep and now you're claiming that I did the nightkill on N3 when the first rule of deepwolfing is that you don't have the deepwolf make the nightkills.

You never even believed your case in the first place and now you've shot yourself in the foot yet again.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is the problem with throwing kitchen sinks t the wall every night

the shit you throw on night 5 might contradict the shit you threw on night 2 and you end up blowing yourself up.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just for you Titus

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

bell back to insulting and ate

classic

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wtf

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

relentless insulting people and ateing isnt proper play

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

spamming the thread full of garbage isnt proper play

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your reasoning literally contradicts itself from day 2 to day 4

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky is spamming we’re trying to give you reasons ignore our back and forth and just listen to notty’s case.
Listen to it and think about it.

-Bell

I am literally responding to your posts.

Saying I'm spamming to drown you out when I'm literally responding to the posts YOU are making in the thread is absolutely ridiculous.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your reasoning literally contradicts itself from day 2 to day 4

Contradiction hunting.
A true scum hunter and not a bottom of the barrel apple bobber.

-Bell

oh I'm sorry I didn't know I was supposed to not debunk and point out the giant holes in your bullshit case.

My bad Bell.

Next time I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you make up whatever lies and narrative you want

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

His argument has become that there are so many reasons he’s scum this game that we must be scum because we’ve given you too many reasons. I get that you disagree with some of them.

This is literally not true.

I have debunked every bullshit reason you've thrown at the wall over the last however many days we are going at it.

This kitchen sink spam approach is designed not for quality of argument but quantity

just overwhelm the target in a giant pile of shitlogic.

The fact that your reasoning from earlier contradicts the newest bullshit case you've made just happens to be a happy coincidence for me.

It's also pretty strong evidence that you never even believed your earlier case to begin with.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You responded to me side swiping Titus. While ignoring my point.

You’ve done that a lot.

-Bell

If you use AtE insults on people in this game in order to try to persuade them to side with you

I have the right to call it out.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You literally don't fucking have a point.

You keep changing your argument every day, sometimes every hour because nothing is working so you might as well try something new.

You're hoping that

eventually

one of the shitlogic nonsense reasons actually gets through and convinces SC

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You also have the right to excuse us of trying to get you mod killed.

So maybe you lost that right?

I didn't accuse you of trying to get me modkilled

I said I checked with the mod if I could post his answer in the thread

because his answer was literally the word "yes"

and it's impossible to paraphrase

why are you even bringing this up again?

cuz you don't have anything

you just make remarks about what happened

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this town is bad.

more insults and ate

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You’ve debunked them by noting that everyone ignored you getting caught

We literally had an entire day of discussion with the entire town about this issue and the conclusion was that I am innocent.

In fact there's even more evidence I'm innocent because it literally makes no sense for me to be the one doing the nightkill if you are saying I'm the deepwolf who vigged my own scum partner.

Deepwolves don't nightkill until they are the last scum left in order to AVOID being detected by tracker, watcher, roleblocker, jailkeeper etc. If the entire scum plan was to bank it all on me going hard deepwolf then there's literally 0 incentive for me to make the nightkill in the first place.

the fact that you are bringing this shit back up like a month+ later shows you've literally run out of bullshit to throw at the wall.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why don't you go meta some more of my games from 2006 or whatever

maybe you can find some classic scum pooky moments and say i'm playing extremely similar to that time period or w/e

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nah you did.
You never explained what your sentence meant and then accused me of looking to be insulted to get some sort of edge. In game.
You also said you were sorry. But you’re not.
-Bell

I explained what the sentence meant.

You decided to interpret it in a different way because you need to feel offended in order to attack me or w/e.

It's cool you're just doing what you need to do

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and what the fuck are you even talking about edge

where is the edge in that sentence?

You're literally just making shit up now to justify rage spewing ate

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No you didn’t.
You said you covered your ass in case I was trying to get you mod killed.

-Bell

I literally always ask the mod if I can give their answer in thread

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I said in case you are THINKING about it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How is trying to get your opponent modkilled even alignment indicative wtf r u even accusing me of accusing you of?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like this entire you getting mad at me for that line is contrived and complete nonsense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no its not the same fucking thing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING IS NOT THE SAME THING AS DOING SOMETHING R U SERIOUS

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i cant believe this is even a serious conversation we're having right now

you don't actually think these thoughts

you're just trying to troll me out of the thread or something

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think we've both said what we wanted to say about notty's case

can we not spam anymore about it so the thread is at least somewhat readable?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

holy fuck i have to refute this shitty case 30 times because you keep respamming it wtf is wrong with you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You’ve debunked them by noting that everyone ignored you getting caught

We literally had an entire day of discussion with the entire town about this issue and the conclusion was that I am innocent.

In fact there's even more evidence I'm innocent because it literally makes no sense for me to be the one doing the nightkill if you are saying I'm the deepwolf who vigged my own scum partner.

Deepwolves don't nightkill until they are the last scum left in order to AVOID being detected by tracker, watcher, roleblocker, jailkeeper etc. If the entire scum plan was to bank it all on me going hard deepwolf then there's literally 0 incentive for me to make the nightkill in the first place.

the fact that you are bringing this shit back up like a month+ later shows you've literally run out of bullshit to throw at the wall.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I forgot I'm not allowed to respond to your frivolous bullshit

my bad bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so if i respond to your spam bullshit and ate then I'm scum for daring to respond to you.

and lemme guess if I don't respond I'd be "frozen scum" right?

very strong argument Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe you should start insulting Titus/Cakes again with your AtE that might finally win them over now that we're in the 300s.

or find another game I played like years ago and quote me 60 times to show you're in a solving mindset.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm just guessing dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm sure you'll make up some bullshit no matter what I do

winkface

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

live look at bell rn:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes bell

you are correct

I was trying to discredit a strategy that SirCakes already dismissed

that makes so much more sense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Can you feel my eyes rolling in my head from the other side of the country lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm just guessing dude

Why would I even do this when you’ve reacted in real time to pretty much everything in this game and nobody here thinks you’re bad or inexperienced scum. The only time the frozen scum might’ve been applicable was when wheme locked you and you said “I’m too obvtown to be scum”

Being frozen scum is for scum noobs like me, not you.

-Bell

I'm saying what would happen if I didn't respond to you in real time.

Since I'm around to respond to you in real time obviously you can't do it...

so instead you decide to accuse me of spamming or being an "arbiter of bullshit" whatever the fuck that means

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes bell

you are correct

I was trying to discredit a strategy that SirCakes already dismissed

that makes so much more sense.

That’s just it tho. I don’t see why you’re doing it at all except to annoy me.

-Bell

It's literally a joke

I told you it was a joke.

Sometimes a Joke is just a Joke.

Just because we are locked into a 1v1 fight to the death where you keep trying to AtE Insult and make the mood shitty doesn't mean I won't try to lighten things up by cracking a joke here and there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how about this bell

do you like figure skating?

I happen to enjoy figure skating.

here's a video of the best figure skater in the world skating the highest score ever recorded in the women's short program.

She is exceptional.



I hope you have a great Friday and a good weekend <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am just responding to you because I have shitty self control.

Have fun at work!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I liked that performance.

I am glad we found something to agree on <3

Let's not argue for another three days

Cakeboi has enough nonsense to read through

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Oh we're back at AtE

Excellent.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think it's necessary for me to call you a liar on every single thing you post because it would be a tremendous waste of time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You don't agree he should vote you for his own well being?
Because I'm being honest about that too.
It would make him feel better.

This is just the same "I am town" garbage you have spammed for the entirety of the game.

Except now you've repackaged it into AtE that is about Sir Cakes.

instead of "how dare you suspect me you fucking idiot"

You've noticed he's not responding to that type of AtE so you've repackaged it into:

"Vote for Pooky because I'm town and you will feel good.
I promise you will feel amazing.
You will feel the best you've ever felt"

Which I guess is at least somewhat clever in re-framing the AtE into being positive for him rather than using negative reinforcement.

But if he actually analyzes your mood he would realize it doesn't make emotional sense for you to shift from being angry at him over not voting me to being nice to him and sucking up.

If you

actually

believed that your "mech-case" that notty posted last night was actually good and powerful and convincing as you swore up and down last night it was.

You would let that stand on its own.

Instead you are feeling weak and decided to go back to AtE because desperation.

Here's the thing tho.

If you're town and you actually believed the mech-case was

good

you would be

fustrated

at SirCakes for not listening to your mech case or not responding to your mech case at all.

You would be AtEing with fustration and anger.

Instead you've changed tacks and decided to go back into suck-up mode.



Here's the thing. I am an expert at emotional manipulation and reading for fake emotions.

The thing Cakes can see here, is that your emotions

don't actually make sense

for the game state you are saying exists.

Instead of presenting rage and frustration with SC for not reading your mech-case or not being convinced by your mech-case. (which you would genuinely feel if you were actually convinced by that garbage pile of a case as you claim to be)

You are nice, soft and soothing.

The kindest sweetest version of Bell.

It literally doesn't make a lick of sense.

I'll hydra with you some day and teach you how to AtE effectively as scum. You have to actually think about what mindset it makes sense for you to have as town.

You can't just swear up and down you're town. Literally nobody falls for that shit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think it's necessary for me to call you a liar on every single thing you post because it would be a tremendous waste of time

*looks back at thread*
Are you sure you don't? *smirk* Just add it to the lie pile.

I am tired of responding to your nonstop spam.

It is a pain in the ass.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Then don't. This back and forth mainly benefits you anyway because you're more interested in being liked than I am and this is what you're good at.

-Bell

well if I don't respond you will make up some bullshit lie about how my not responding means im scum so you're literally just baiting me into responding to your garbage spam nonsense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm literally responding to the bullshit you are spewing into the thread.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How does this back and forth benefit me at all.

I have already addressed this many many times.

More than once today.

Your plan is to flood this thread with so much nonsense and garbage that SC will be unable to read it all.

You know that so far your AtE, Shitlogic, Bad Cases, Piles of Pooky Quotes, and Self-Meta have not made a dent on Sir Cakes.

You know this because he's still undecided.

But you think if you just hurl the right rock in the right place at the right time, Maybe SC will crack and give in.

You've got a puncher's chance and it's not like it costs you money to post.

So you just keep going and going and going.

Cuz you're not actually interested in a discussion on any one part of your case.

You know nothing you've posted is any good or could stand up to scrutiny.

That's why you're going for volume over quality - you know you have nothing and you just have to keep faking it till you make it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You don't agree he should vote you for his own well being?
Because I'm being honest about that too.
It would make him feel better.

This is just the same "I am town" garbage you have spammed for the entirety of the game.

Except now you've repackaged it into AtE that is about Sir Cakes.

instead of "how dare you suspect me you fucking idiot"

You've noticed he's not responding to that type of AtE so you've repackaged it into:

"Vote for Pooky because I'm town and you will feel good.
I promise you will feel amazing.
You will feel the best you've ever felt"

Which I guess is at least somewhat clever in re-framing the AtE into being positive for him rather than using negative reinforcement.

But if he actually analyzes your mood he would realize it doesn't make emotional sense for you to shift from being angry at him over not voting me to being nice to him and sucking up.

If you

actually

believed that your "mech-case" that notty posted last night was actually good and powerful and convincing as you swore up and down last night it was.

You would let that stand on its own.

Instead you are feeling weak and decided to go back to AtE because desperation.

Here's the thing tho.

If you're town and you actually believed the mech-case was

good

you would be

fustrated

at SirCakes for not listening to your mech case or not responding to your mech case at all.

You would be AtEing with fustration and anger.

Instead you've changed tacks and decided to go back into suck-up mode.



Here's the thing. I am an expert at emotional manipulation and reading for fake emotions.

The thing Cakes can see here, is that your emotions

don't actually make sense

for the game state you are saying exists.

Instead of presenting rage and frustration with SC for not reading your mech-case or not being convinced by your mech-case. (which you would genuinely feel if you were actually convinced by that garbage pile of a case as you claim to be)

You are nice, soft and soothing.

The kindest sweetest version of Bell.

It literally doesn't make a lick of sense.

I'll hydra with you some day and teach you how to AtE effectively as scum. You have to actually think about what mindset it makes sense for you to have as town.

You can't just swear up and down you're town. Literally nobody falls for that shit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if bell actually believed in that flaming dumpster pile of a "mechcase" he wouldnt be desperately ateing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bells posts when combined with their avatar are like custom-built to be the maximum amount of infuriating.

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net
I shut down dialogue about whether or not I am scum or whether or not my thinking makes sense because engaging people on their read of me is unpleasant for me and rarely feels productive.

Anyone who compulsively shuts down any scumread of them whether they're town or scum has made themselves a deeply unpleasant player.

Discussion of your alignment is always unproductive

for you

because at the start of the game penguin_alien sent you your alignment. Therefore there's no discussion that could be possibly productive

for you

because it's absolute factual knowledge that you already possess. It's productive for every player in the game that's not you, excepting perhaps your hypothetical scumbuddies (were you scum).

When you sign up to play a game of mafia, you're signing up for a game where your words, intentions, alignment, reads, and everything about your posts will be doubted. Now you can call out bad arguments. But attempting to shut down any possible discussion of it

having voluntarily, of your own free will signed up for a game you knew it would happen in

makes you a deeply unpleasant person to play mafia with.

Have some fucking empathy. Everyone else is playing the game with the same understanding and limitations, and most of us are town trying to figure things out. In fact in every game most of everyone is town trying to figure things out.

In other words, you're being an ass. Chill.

This is scum telling it like it is to me in Warehouse 13. I also quite like Grayice.
So, you know. Also I have a long history of saying I'm town as town and also a long history of saying I have a long history saying I'm town a lot as town.

-Bell

this is literally irrelevant