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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:07 am
by Datisi
vote count 1.14

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-10-25 14:15:00).


yeet
toxictaipan [4]:
NorwegianboyEE, Dwlee99, Gamma Emerald, DArby
NorwegianboyEE [2]:
Val89
, toxictaipan
camelCasedSnivy [1]:
marcistar
Val89
[1]:
Not_Mafia
AliceK [1]:
Jolyne
Dwlee99 [1]:
T3
Not_Mafia [1]:
AliceK

not voting [2]:
camelCasedSnivy, redtea


mod notes~ this vc was made with just the counter and without manual checking, so please let me know if there are mistakes


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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:15 am
by T3
In post 768, redtea wrote:val or t3 will you join me and let not_mafia hammer
I forget whether toxic was in jolynes poe or not you can also join me
I can't promise results all I can promise is info but I thinkk it'll be juicy
VOTE: toxic

i feel like he has an =rand chance of being scum though

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:37 am
by marcistar
In post 799, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 796, toxictaipan wrote:Apologies for my activity sins. I completely understand why I'm getting wagon'd for that. But, that doesn't make the wagon on me any less opportunistic. My content is so low that the only valid argument is I am potentially lurker scum. I'm highly suspect of the slots seriously pushing for my elim right now. Essentially taking my inactivity for granted.
This is scum.
how

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:38 am
by T3
In post 802, marcistar wrote:
In post 799, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 796, toxictaipan wrote:Apologies for my activity sins. I completely understand why I'm getting wagon'd for that. But, that doesn't make the wagon on me any less opportunistic. My content is so low that the only valid argument is I am potentially lurker scum. I'm highly suspect of the slots seriously pushing for my elim right now. Essentially taking my inactivity for granted.
This is scum.
how
weird complaining

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:40 am
by marcistar
In post 803, T3 wrote:
In post 802, marcistar wrote:
In post 799, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 796, toxictaipan wrote:Apologies for my activity sins. I completely understand why I'm getting wagon'd for that. But, that doesn't make the wagon on me any less opportunistic. My content is so low that the only valid argument is I am potentially lurker scum. I'm highly suspect of the slots seriously pushing for my elim right now. Essentially taking my inactivity for granted.
This is scum.
how
weird complaining
hows it weird

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:42 am
by T3
In post 804, marcistar wrote:
In post 803, T3 wrote:
In post 802, marcistar wrote:
In post 799, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 796, toxictaipan wrote:Apologies for my activity sins. I completely understand why I'm getting wagon'd for that. But, that doesn't make the wagon on me any less opportunistic. My content is so low that the only valid argument is I am potentially lurker scum. I'm highly suspect of the slots seriously pushing for my elim right now. Essentially taking my inactivity for granted.
This is scum.
how
weird complaining
hows it weird
wordy language

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:43 am
by Dwlee99
Get em

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:44 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Scripted and robotic.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:48 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I RECOGNIZE THAT I, THE ENTITY BEING ADDRESSED AM BEING VOTED FOR… {Beep Boop} CALCULATING… {DING!} - INACTIVITY -
I HOWEVER WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOUR ATTENTION TO THE POST IN QUESTION FROM @Root_Ping_NorwegianboyEE_45534 THAT HE MADE AN ENEMIC POST IN MY DIGITAL ARCHIVES.
IF ONLY I COULD FIND IT…

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:55 am
by marcistar
hmm

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:57 am
by Dwlee99
In post 808, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I RECOGNIZE THAT I, THE ENTITY BEING ADDRESSED AM BEING VOTED FOR… {Beep Boop} CALCULATING… {DING!} - INACTIVITY -
I HOWEVER WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOUR ATTENTION TO THE POST IN QUESTION FROM @Root_Ping_NorwegianboyEE_45534 THAT HE MADE AN ENEMIC POST IN MY DIGITAL ARCHIVES.
IF ONLY I COULD FIND IT…
Koba how can you scumread this

I want to do the LN thing again

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:16 am
by DArby
In post 777, Val89 wrote:
In post 758, DArby wrote:I got what I wanted out of my vote and now I want to move on to see what I can get out of my next vote.

@DArby
In case you aren't aware; it's sort of Not_mafia's shtick to hammer any wagon that reaches E-1 (which is why readtea phases his as he does).

As such, you ought to have a higher bar about throwing your votes around if you are doing so to lend pressure to a slot you aren't sure about; given that that vote could lead to that wagon quickly becoming a lim without much further discussion.

If that was your intent, and you do think toxic should be the lim today, fine, but if this toxic lim does happen here, I don't want whether or not you were aware of this to be a factor in sorting your slot tomorrow, so now you know.
Lmao NM feels less like a player and more like a game mechanic. Thanks for the heads up. I’ll keep a closer eye on this thread then. I’m sold on a push not a lem.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:40 am
by Val89
Well, my point is he is sat at E-2 now, and the lim could come in the next 10 minutes.

I also have some concerns floating about it the back of my head that, even in the event of a toxic red flip, he may well end up just being the sacrificial goon to a) hurry this day to a close so mafia can get to the good stuff I'm speculating might be in this setup, and B) help sell a townblock that might not prove as pure as we might like.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:42 am
by DArby
Hm. Pt 2.

UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:44 am
by Dwlee99
In post 812, Val89 wrote:Well, my point is he is sat at E-2 now, and the lim could come in the next 10 minutes.

I also have some concerns floating about it the back of my head that, even in the event of a toxic red flip, he may well end up just being the sacrificial goon to a) hurry this day to a close so mafia can get to the good stuff I'm speculating might be in this setup, and B) help sell a townblock that might not prove as pure as we might like.
a) is nonsensical

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:45 am
by DArby
Even if I do end up on a toxic lem it does have a weird policy/rushed vibe to it. I’d like more to go into d2.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:48 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 815, DArby wrote:Even if I do end up on a toxic lem it does have a weird policy/rushed vibe to it. I’d like more to go into d2.
I don't see the point. I didn't want to rush it before, but now i don't care because i think his posts just now were scummy as fuck.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:49 am
by Val89
You know something I don't, Dwlee?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:53 am
by Dwlee99
When has mafia ever gained anything out of a night phase except for maybe PR info

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:14 am
by Val89
I'm speculating, but even a conditionally bulletproof IC seems a pretty powerful role to be handed out if Mafia havent been given some way to deduce or work around those conditions. I speculated that I had been given it to make up for a lack of town protectives, but I could be wrong on that score.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:17 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Who cares about speculation.
Just kill the guy that made a scummy post.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:20 am
by Val89
In addition,

I've since clarified. I was wrong, and Marci's interpretation of "backup ascetic" in post was actually correct. Mafia are targetable at night only until an ascetic dies.

In light of that, that also seems to open the door to the existence of investigatives I had thought didnt make sense, but ones that are neutered as soon as the right person is killed. It makes complete sense for mafia to have an extra incentive to start making NKs as quickly as possible in this game while giving our invests as little to work with in the early days, if at some point in the future our theoricial invests get switched off.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:23 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Isn’t PR hunting and "trying to rush the elimination", completely counterintuitive?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:26 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 795, marcistar wrote:"do i dislike anyone specific" sort of..
but i also just feel this isn't very likely to hit scum rn. i feel like up until recently, i've been the only one really not fine with the toxic stuff, even he didn't defend himself, i feel like when everyones fine with a wagon theres usually a big going on. there should be more pushback if hes scum, if not from his partners, then from him himself. if he had a team backing him up, would he have not been coming in in 727 with an idea on whats happening, and stay longer to start defending himself..? it feels like hes truly alone against everyone rn.
sure he could be scum, but to me i think "scummy seeming inactive town" fits him more rn.
feels like people are trying to get off easy <3 this as well seems very cherry picked, other people are similar to him rn but hes the one catching all the attention?
yeah, I get this
basically toxic can only make sense with certain team comps
the teaam could be something like toxic/NM/? tho

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:27 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 799, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 796, toxictaipan wrote:Apologies for my activity sins. I completely understand why I'm getting wagon'd for that. But, that doesn't make the wagon on me any less opportunistic. My content is so low that the only valid argument is I am potentially lurker scum. I'm highly suspect of the slots seriously pushing for my elim right now. Essentially taking my inactivity for granted.
This is scum.
lol y
I'm not totally swayed by toxic's response but it wasn't bad imo