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Post Post #6218 (isolation #800) » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:40 am

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In post 6204, Kaiji wrote:
In post 6181, Enchant wrote:
In post 6180, Datisi wrote:i have seen zero things from you that made me have a read on you
Are you not competent or just mafia, because it's blatant Catboi is mafia here.
In post 6183, Enchant wrote:
In post 6182, Datisi wrote:how is it blatant that catboi is mafia

you cannot answer "i have a guilty on him"
Catboi naturally reeks mafia speeches and you failing to see this.
Reading the game helps
Those are to dats, not abt how he was interacting with me, which is what i was looking for

If i die, i would look at enchant and alyssa tomorrow. I dont actually think there's a n3 vig, i think enchants the 1s vig
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Post Post #6227 (isolation #801) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:53 am

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Yeah i'm not surprised either

Mare do u have a hood with enchant?

Enchant what's ur check?
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Post Post #6231 (isolation #802) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:55 am

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From my pov still the vig is in exactly {dats catboi enchant}

Pedit yeah but if they have and didnt shoot idc we didnt lose overnight
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Post Post #6233 (isolation #803) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:56 am

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U mean kill enchant and eat the flip?

Fwiw i'm like >90% voting enchant i just want to get the mechanical formalities out of the way
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Post Post #6236 (isolation #804) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:58 am

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Kaiji fwiw i am rather sus of your eod yesterday
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Post Post #6237 (isolation #805) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:59 am

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R u in a hood
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Post Post #6239 (isolation #806) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:00 pm

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Are you in a neighborhood with mare
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Post Post #6241 (isolation #807) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:02 pm

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Mare did you try to hood him?
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Post Post #6245 (isolation #808) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:06 pm

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Also i suppose if mare if scum with enchant, they probably werent super thrilled by the no-lim option either

Tinfoil of mare/enchant/kaiji, would explain kaiji trying so hard to flip catboi yesterday

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Dats why arent me or ss scum ?
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Post Post #6246 (isolation #809) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:07 pm

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Nm i get it :facepalm:
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Post Post #6254 (isolation #810) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:11 pm

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Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)
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Post Post #6256 (isolation #811) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:12 pm

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Kaiji looks abt 19x worse in a scum-enchant world
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Post Post #6262 (isolation #812) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:14 pm

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In post 6258, Datisi wrote:we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug
Fair enuf, dont mind my paranoia >.>

Pedit why is that your main comment on current happenings ...
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Post Post #6270 (isolation #813) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:17 pm

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Fwiw the tinfoil did acknowledge that and stated getting more elaborate where she's something else and you have the neighborizer slot until i remembered she proved the action with dats so it has to be exactly you/mare/dats in that world if she's lying abt being neighborizer and then i realized this was sillu so i didnt actually say this
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Post Post #6272 (isolation #814) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:19 pm

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*her

Also that's a gross post, but once again catboi can give said pointers (i mean this in earnest i do think u got a lot right there)

But i gotta sleep now i can bicker with u tom
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Post Post #6278 (isolation #815) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:24 pm

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In post 6276, Kaiji wrote:last time catboi and i were tvt they grossly misread me and mislimmed me bc i was aggressively scumreading them and tunneled them rofl.

so imagine going to them for tips.
I mean hey you didnt say 'does anybody except catboi have pointers'

Also yeah i think its odd that that's what you chose to comment on amongst everything else

Also, like, you're aware that trying to move the wagon away from enchant is p darn bad looking if he's scum, no? Why am i scum setting you up for a misflip and not town who thinks you look partnered?
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Post Post #6280 (isolation #816) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:26 pm

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In post 6258, Datisi wrote:
In post 6254, skitter30 wrote:Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)
we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug
In post 6256, skitter30 wrote:Kaiji looks abt 19x worse in a scum-enchant world
very much agreed
Is dats partnered?
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Post Post #6284 (isolation #817) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:28 pm

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We have a 1v1 and you were defending half of it yesterday

Why are you jumping to 'i am imminently getting flipped and skitter is trying to misflip me'

Instead of like commenting on the mare/enchant situation
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Post Post #6288 (isolation #818) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:31 pm

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In post 6282, Kaiji wrote:Skitter - Do you think being wrong means someone is scum?

Is that how you judge games typically?
I mean if being wrong means that you spent the day before elo trying to defend scum caught in a bad fakeclaim, yes

Why should i think you were wrong-town and not partners ?

The latter i think is strawman-y and i'm not going to answer

I really should go to sleep, so if u want a more detailed answer, tomorrow

Pedit also i'll get to those tom
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Post Post #6344 (isolation #819) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:36 pm

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In post 6280, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6258, Datisi wrote:
In post 6254, skitter30 wrote:Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)
we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug
In post 6256, skitter30 wrote:Kaiji looks abt 19x worse in a scum-enchant world
very much agreed
Is dats partnered?
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Post Post #6345 (isolation #820) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:39 pm

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In post 6290, Kaiji wrote:I'm not informed of who the scumteam is so unfortunately if I am reaching the wrong conclusion I do not have a cheatsheet to help me Skitter. So what about my approach seemed TMI to you?

I will be going through the second question in detail during limlo.
Ok so it would help to understand how you got yo the conclusion that catboinwas scum yesterday
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Post Post #6346 (isolation #821) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:40 pm

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In post 6299, Kaiji wrote:I'd like limlo to go like this:

I vote someone.

We see if scum blitz, if not, theyre voting me back likely at that point


and then we discuss
I mean i'm not sure i like this plan
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Post Post #6347 (isolation #822) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:42 pm

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In post 6306, Kaiji wrote:I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.

I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.
I dont suggest faking a guilty that involves faking an inno on myself as well

Tbh j'm not sure if mena ran this plan by his teammates
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Post Post #6348 (isolation #823) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:46 pm

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In post 6313, Kaiji wrote:if we didnt have the snowstorm over the weekend i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read
In post 6315, Kaiji wrote:Skitter didn't even give the opportunity to hammer enchant if we wanted to there -an important distinction from actually being on enchant wagon.
- if i wasnt like literally getting on / being on a plane i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read
(This irl reasoning applies to you but is scummy for me because ... )
- you were literally arguing tjat catboi was scum and trying to talk me into voting him ... i'm supposed to believe you would have swapped to enchant ???!
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Post Post #6350 (isolation #824) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:48 pm

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In post 6322, Something_Smart wrote:Datisi/Pooky picking multitasking and intentionally colliding is a pretty tough pill to swallow. Though I obviously know that solve is wrong anyway, and I don't know how much of it is associative-based.
Yeah i'm having a hard time seeing that one

I'm kind thinking enchant + one of {dats, ss} + one of {alyssa kaiji}
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Post Post #6351 (isolation #825) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:51 pm

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In post 6331, Something_Smart wrote:That's... encouraging?

Why do you think I'm not? PoE?
I mean for me i'm looking at you again since i'm kinda running out of places scum can be if catboi and mare are both town
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Post Post #6352 (isolation #826) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:54 pm

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In post 6333, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:with Mare/Catboi being town and Enchant/Datisi being scum

Kaiji doesn't fit the profile of somebody that would make these kills

You and Skitter both do, but I think Skitter looks a bit more town

that's basically it
In post 6338, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 6335, Something_Smart wrote:I don't generally buy into NKA much, but I'm clearly out of tune with how people think, just, in general.

I think that a Kaiji-scum/catboi-town world only makes sense if scum did have the N3 vig and Kaiji was just angling to win yesterday, and even then I find it unlikely that Kaiji would see that as the easiest way to win.
The nightkills this game very strongly signify a "stable" type mindset

You and skitter are the types of players I strongly expect to have that type of mindset

Kaiji (at least I suspect as much) and myself are players that have an "unstable" type mindset

aka the nightkills this game aren't trying to fuck with people, they're playing around mechanics and avoiding PoEs
Fwiw i consider ss 'unstable' in this regard
See: a prior iteration where he no killed to fake a jk-guilty (iirc that was the reasoning for the no kill)
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Post Post #6354 (isolation #827) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:04 pm

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I think most people do. I'm not dure it points to anyone in particular
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Post Post #6355 (isolation #828) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:06 pm

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Remember midway was on andante (and andante was supposed to be on midway) - midway by dayplay was scummy but the role is annoying for scum
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Post Post #6357 (isolation #829) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:09 pm

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I find galron over mare to be a lot more interesting, although admittedly i'm not 100% sure what it means

Pedit idk
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Post Post #6362 (isolation #830) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:12 pm

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Fair enuf
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Post Post #6364 (isolation #831) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:15 pm

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Alyssa >.>
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Post Post #6370 (isolation #832) » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:37 pm

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In post 6365, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6347, skitter30 wrote:I dont suggest faking a guilty that involves faking an inno on myself as well
Why not? If Menaslot is planning to take a fall anyway, the innos don't really matter.
Dunno. Ties myself to the guilty too much, i would probably pick non-scum for the inno
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Post Post #6376 (isolation #833) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:55 am

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In post 6372, Kaiji wrote:I think skitter is intentionally not looking at certain slots critically or in depth in order to falsify solves with those ppl in it
I mean who do you think i'm overlooking

And from my pov this scumread on me is, ah, Not Good
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Post Post #6379 (isolation #834) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:55 am

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In post 6344, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6280, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6258, Datisi wrote:
In post 6254, skitter30 wrote:Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)
we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug
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Post Post #6380 (isolation #835) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:56 am

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I was going to ask, yeah, lol
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Post Post #6381 (isolation #836) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:56 am

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I think kaiji is trying to set up a me/them elo which is an Interesting Choice
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Post Post #6433 (isolation #837) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:35 am

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In post 6379, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6344, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6280, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6258, Datisi wrote:
In post 6254, skitter30 wrote:Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)
we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug
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Post Post #6434 (isolation #838) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:38 am

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In post 6386, Kaiji wrote:I think you should read my iso and then eliminate questions the answer to are already there.
I want you to show cognition of reading the game here.

Im at work right now. But seeing your most recent question thats why i request you go read what i have to say and then come up with better questions.
Honestly, i really really doubt i'm gonna be re-isoing anyone any time soon. If you would like to call me scum for that, feel free

If you have any particular questions for me, go for it

I, in turn, would like an elaboration on why you were townreading enchant yesterday
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Post Post #6435 (isolation #839) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:39 am

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In post 6397, Kaiji wrote:Bc i thought his role was crumbed in addition i saw a catboi scum world alongside a skitter town world
Also my school of thought on pushes is to not cede ground if its not limlo or you need to convince people hard
Again, i'm very dubious you thought those were legit crumbs
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Post Post #6436 (isolation #840) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:41 am

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In post 6415, Kaiji wrote:Actually dont answer that.
I want you alive in limlo for reasons and you shouldn't show your hand.

Idk who scum kill here for next 2 kills but it will be illuminating imo

Meh halfway thru typing this i realized that if i do trust my solve that it is optimal for them to kill you so nvm don't hide anything lol

I kinda wanted catboi alive bc of a previous games limlo where i know they can read through certain things
Also pointing out that this attitude towards catboi is incongruent with you dismissing me saying he has meta on me ...
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Post Post #6437 (isolation #841) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:41 am

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In post 6422, Mare wrote:Skitter claimed VT yeah?

Probably going to neighborize her if Enchant flips not-BP.
Ye
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Post Post #6438 (isolation #842) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:43 am

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In post 6430, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:And having zero opinion of me at this stage is really fucking sus, idc if I'm in the PoE for being harder to townread than other slots since that's generally fair (and you even went about it in a town way in holiday dance despite me being even more blatantly town), but you and skitter both have given me this sense that you aren't even assessing me in any way, which is very often a scum tactic from those that aren't super confident scum players
You're in my poe, and i dont know how to assess your olay rn

Do you think i should be townreading you? If so, why?
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Post Post #6439 (isolation #843) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:43 am

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I really hate kaiji's today
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Post Post #6443 (isolation #844) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:57 am

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In post 6440, Kaiji wrote:
In post 6435, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6397, Kaiji wrote:Bc i thought his role was crumbed in addition i saw a catboi scum world alongside a skitter town world
Also my school of thought on pushes is to not cede ground if its not limlo or you need to convince people hard
Again, i'm very dubious you thought those were legit crumbs
Why?
Saying the word 'ascetic cop' is not a crumb and you know that, and i dont believe you thought it was
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Post Post #6444 (isolation #845) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:00 am

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In post 6441, Kaiji wrote:
In post 6439, skitter30 wrote:I really hate kaiji's today
What about it do you hate?
There's no continuity of thought from your yesterday to today

Yesterday you were trying to get people to vote out catboi

Today upon the 1v1 you just jumped to 'enchant is guilty and i look bad so i'm now gonna focus on defending myself', without really reassessing from where you left off yesterday in a way that looks rather survivalistic, in that you're assuming enchant flips scum and are focusing on surviving the aftermath

You're buddying alyssa and catboi (again, in great contrat to yesterday), and setting up a 1v1 with me
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Post Post #6446 (isolation #846) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:01 am

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In post 6433, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6379, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6344, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6280, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6258, Datisi wrote:
In post 6254, skitter30 wrote:Amd we're sure mare is town?

I'm jusr thinking through everything (tinfoil for why galron died over mare, etc)
we're not, but like, idk what else to do, i don't think scum in 4th takes neighbourizer /shrug
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Post Post #6448 (isolation #847) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:02 am

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In post 6445, Kaiji wrote:You're too funny
In that ...
Pedit one sec gotta do something irl, be back shortly
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Post Post #6450 (isolation #848) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:05 am

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In post 6447, Kaiji wrote:Its very plausible for me to do a 180 actually, why is that impossible?
There's no reassessment, no thought process, and you jumped to acting survivalistic

Pedit yeah
And i hate rhat it jumps to defense and survivalism
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Post Post #6457 (isolation #849) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:11 am

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Ok i'm also just noting that you're treating me/everyone else very differently

Things are scummy when i say it, but not when dats says it (i'm taking you ignoring that post as you tacitly admitting that)

And you respond to catboi echoing what i said, but ignore me

Soooooooo just calling that out ...
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Post Post #6463 (isolation #850) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:13 am

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In post 6452, Kaiji wrote:Me, waiting before deadline timer ends: please enchant die please enchant die
me when deadline timer hits: ok schadd hurry up come on
Yesterday you were literally begging me to vote catboi, what changed ?

And for the rest of the post, it would kinda be helpful if that had happened in thread, but it didnt
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Post Post #6467 (isolation #851) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:14 am

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In post 6456, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I'd expect you to not be as 2d with your reads as you are now

You played like I would expect you as town to play earlier in the game and it feel off a cliff big time
Busy irl
Not an excuse but it is what it is, i didnt have the mental capacity for this last week

Ought i be townreadinf you now?
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Post Post #6484 (isolation #852) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:34 am

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In post 6471, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I at least expect you to be parsing me
You're gonna hate this but i feel like i dont have much to read you with
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Post Post #6485 (isolation #853) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:34 am

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In post 6474, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:This always feels shitty to say, but I really feel like catboi would be playing better from a dayplay perspective if he was scum

This is usually the benchmark for how I parse mariar too
Agreed
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Post Post #6486 (isolation #854) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:35 am

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In post 6478, Kaiji wrote:i dont think its a good question. Read my posts and determine it.
Ok but thisnis the question i would like you to answer
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Post Post #6488 (isolation #855) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:36 am

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Again noting that kaiji is interacting catboi abt the point that i made, but basically trying to ignore me
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Post Post #6503 (isolation #856) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:53 am

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In post 6497, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 6484, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6471, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I at least expect you to be parsing me
You're gonna hate this but i feel like i dont have much to read you with
Okay

What is your general thoughts on me then

I would find it hard to believe that you forget I'm in the game at all
No, i dont forget you're in the game but when i think abt 'hmmm read on alyssa' i just draw a massive blank

I dont like you trying to get the nolim yesterday
You're strictly in my poe
I dont have a reason to townread you (which is why you're strictly in the poe)

That's what i got
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Post Post #6516 (isolation #857) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:58 am

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In post 6510, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 6503, skitter30 wrote:I dont like you trying to get the nolim yesterday
W h a t

When did this happen
Sorry i'm tired that was meant to be the other way around

I didnt like you arguing against the nolim yesterday
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Post Post #6517 (isolation #858) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:58 am

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In post 6513, Something_Smart wrote:And probably skitter, especially if Enchant is not BP.
?
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Post Post #6520 (isolation #859) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:00 am

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I dont know, i didnt like it at the time
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Post Post #6522 (isolation #860) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:02 am

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I cant, like, find a hook or a handle or a something i van use tonread alyssa

Its a lot like how i feel abt ss most of the time

Pedit fair enuf. I dont have it, even tho i wish i took it

And i also dont think i have mena claim it in that universe?
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Post Post #6529 (isolation #861) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:05 am

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In post 6037, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:VOTE: Catboi
What were you thinkikg here?
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Post Post #6531 (isolation #862) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:07 am

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Sorry enchant, i'm sure this is very frustrating for you
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Post Post #6535 (isolation #863) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:09 am

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In post 6348, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6313, Kaiji wrote:if we didnt have the snowstorm over the weekend i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read
In post 6315, Kaiji wrote:Skitter didn't even give the opportunity to hammer enchant if we wanted to there -an important distinction from actually being on enchant wagon.
- if i wasnt like literally getting on / being on a plane i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read
(This irl reasoning applies to you but is scummy for me because ... )
- you were literally arguing tjat catboi was scum and trying to talk me into voting him ... i'm supposed to believe you would have swapped to enchant ???!
Noting you ignoring my response to your talking point
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Post Post #6540 (isolation #864) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:13 am

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In post 6537, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Skitter if that was towards the end then that was literally just me trying to get a flip at all
Ok ty

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Post Post #6544 (isolation #865) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:14 am

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In post 6542, Mare wrote:
In post 6540, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6537, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Skitter if that was towards the end then that was literally just me trying to get a flip at all
Ok ty

Pedit feel free
Don’t kill meeeeee.
I literally cant >.>
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Post Post #6549 (isolation #866) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:16 am

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In post 6543, Kaiji wrote:You dont want to address your push for no lim because it exposes you rofl
Noting you trying to completely pretend you didnt try to not get enchant flipped
Again, noting that you're interacting me v selectively me and ignoring talking points that are inconvenient for you

Also i was very openly very indecisuve yesterday, in particular between no limming and flipping enchant. I supported flipping enchant, unlike you eho was actively trying to get the fake-guilty flipped ...
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Post Post #6551 (isolation #867) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:17 am

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In post 6547, Kaiji wrote:Obviously its more complex than that but youre frozen on the subject
No, i'm not, and i'm not appreciating the snipes you're taking
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Post Post #6554 (isolation #868) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:20 am

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Lol
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Post Post #6557 (isolation #869) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:21 am

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In post 6555, Kaiji wrote:
In post 6551, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6547, Kaiji wrote:Obviously its more complex than that but youre frozen on the subject
No, i'm not, and i'm not appreciating the snipes you're taking
Ok why did you want no lim
Because i'm indecisive and hate commiting to things and couldnt reevaluate fully last week to come to a conclusion that i felt comfortable with

Gonna ask again since you ignored the first two times i asked:
Why did you think enchanf was town yesterday
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Post Post #6560 (isolation #870) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:22 am

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Its actually annoying that you keep saying 'i'm an open book plz dont dlip me before i can explain my pov to you' but then you ignore me when i try to ask abt your pov ...

Like are these questions not what yku meant by that or
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Post Post #6562 (isolation #871) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:24 am

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You. Literally. Defended. Scum. Yesterday.

And wony explain why

And are trying to spin me being indecisive between 'no-lim' and 'flip scum' as worse

Pedit ok why was that so hard to say

When's later?
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Post Post #6564 (isolation #872) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:25 am

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I've been asking since daystart, and if you had just said thay i wouldnt have kept hounding you abt it ...
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Post Post #6565 (isolation #873) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:25 am

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In post 6563, Kaiji wrote:Im at work, you are trying to gotcha me by rushing bc you are scum who knows that time works against you, that the longer i have to compile my thoughts the harder it is for you to match my standard.
And again why is there spin to this ...
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Post Post #6568 (isolation #874) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:27 am

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In post 6566, Kaiji wrote:You soft defended him
You have defended scum as town
Uh, where?

Pedit ok more spin ...
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Post Post #6571 (isolation #875) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:28 am

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No, my concern is that of you're town i'd like to see that but you're literally ignoring the questions i'm asking to set up a 1v1 with me
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Post Post #6575 (isolation #876) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:33 am

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In post 4914, skitter30 wrote:Despite this being 'good' news for me, i actually dont think i really believe that ...
Immediately thought he was lying ?
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Post Post #6576 (isolation #877) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:38 am

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I never really entertained the enchant-town universe, i just wasnt sure if mechanically it was better to flip him yesterday or not
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Post Post #6581 (isolation #878) » Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:32 am

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In post 6578, Kaiji wrote:Skitter, if by any chance you are town - your wincon will require hou to find me town or else lose by being forced to vote me.
I'm not married to my solve - if evidence is presented that proves with low doubt you cannot be scum here and that another team is viabke outside of you and I - that will help.
That's the only olive branch im giving you because based on your dishonesty i do not anticipate this is the case but i have seen pretty eh games from you and youre also not very good at reading players like me when you have been town - at least when im town that is.
- i am eagerly awaiting your thought process yesterday, esp wrt your catboi scumread / why you were believing enchant
-- if you are town i would like to see it because it will help me get to the correct solve, and this is what i need from you to get there
- i would like to note thay i object to your characterization of my play as 'dishonest'
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Post Post #6601 (isolation #879) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:49 am

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Should we try to just flip enchant and sort out the mess tom?
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Post Post #6615 (isolation #880) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:11 am

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In post 6602, Kaiji wrote:Nope we're not burning the clock. If you dont wanna use the time go ahead and post minimal prod dodging content and let the people who want the time use it.

It will be a useful mental break for those who dont need it.
Ok i'm all ears
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Post Post #6619 (isolation #881) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:10 pm

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This is riveting ...

Kaiji are we gonna get your explanation for why you believed emchant yesterday anytime soon?
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Post Post #6621 (isolation #882) » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:15 pm

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I mean i find it funny how they're saying 'no rush' but literally noy doing anything with this time ...
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Post Post #6624 (isolation #883) » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:37 am

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Kaiji what are u getting out of thia time exactly ?
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Post Post #6626 (isolation #884) » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:39 am

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Hmm ?
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Post Post #6630 (isolation #885) » Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:07 am

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In post 6625, Kaiji wrote:Citations first bye
>.>
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Post Post #6632 (isolation #886) » Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:08 am

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Double >.>
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Post Post #6636 (isolation #887) » Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:13 am

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>.<

Pedit he was town there but given the fact that i dont think you knew this game existed before five minutes ago, and enchant has basically scumclaimed, it does not explaon your trajectory yesterday
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Post Post #6642 (isolation #888) » Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:19 am

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And neither partner was around, the wagon on the newbie went through, and town correctly deduced that scum were in the peiple not around

Either way idk why this is relevant. Nobody is rushing anything, people are just asking you to do the things you said you were going to do

I dont need a post going through yout 600 post iso one by one. I literally just need a coherent explanation for what you were thinkng yesterday. You can just summarize it in 2 sentences
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Post Post #6674 (isolation #889) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:01 am

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In post 6645, Kaiji wrote:There are 2 key reasons i believed mena:
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2) i thought catboiwas thumb twiddling to make the pressure stay away
Ok can you elaborate on the 'pooky was townie' bit, and where you were thinking that yesterday?
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Post Post #6679 (isolation #890) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:48 pm

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Ok so we've used half our time today
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Post Post #6686 (isolation #891) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:39 am

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In post 6674, skitter30 wrote:
In post 6645, Kaiji wrote:There are 2 key reasons i believed mena:
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Post Post #6691 (isolation #892) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:45 am

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In post 6687, Kaiji wrote:demonstrated a very consistent lack of TMI on the gamestate. I have some points from skitter herself she made in favor of me I will be digging up and seeing if she tries to discard them now that I'm a targeted mislim.
I think also my lack of WIM is due to just .. no one else really caring to post and I only feel a want to post when others are because I feel like I'm going to further push people away if I'm here posting alone, even though I have been already multiple times.
You arent a dedicated misflip, but noting the shade
I would be shocked if you died tonight
You keep complaining that nobody is posting when we're waiting for you to do whatever you wanted to do
I never got a satisfactory explanation for your trajectory yesterday

Pedit yeah i see rbat and its incredibly frustrating

Alyssa can you ask kaiji why he was pushing yo flip catboi yesterday? Ty

Also you didnt answer my questions, and i keep asking because i really, really hate being ignored
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Post Post #6693 (isolation #893) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:47 am

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I also dont think you *have* a reason to scumread me, you just decided this was a good push for you

Pedit i think if you're town you're making this game abt 19 billion times harder than it needs to be rn

You backed the wrong side of a 1v1 yestersay
You dont, and as far as i can tell never did, have an explanation for doing so

And i'm flabbergasted that everyone is just ok with that
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Post Post #6695 (isolation #894) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:49 am

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Your whole day today has been so .... disappointing for what you were promising at daystart

Pedit yeah seriously
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Post Post #6697 (isolation #895) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:49 am

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And i'm floored that we're all just nodding along and thinking that kaiji's play today is, like, not scummy
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Post Post #6700 (isolation #896) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:52 am

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Their defense of enchant yesterday was awful
Their entry today was awful
The way they're playing today is awful + basically killing time intil nobody is motivated to push them anymore + blatantly out of touch with the gamestate + blatantly buddying alyssa

And like ... nobody seems to care or mind ...
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Post Post #6703 (isolation #897) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:54 am

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You're frustrating me greatly rn

And that's a gross reduction of what i've been saying
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Post Post #6704 (isolation #898) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:56 am

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In post 6701, Kaiji wrote:Scumcase against me: I pushed catboi over enchant


i've seen better scumcases in newbies, and the players presenting this have BoP :)

i do love when scum tell on themselves.
My issue is not inherently that you were pushing catboi, my issue is that it you dont have a decent explanation for *why* you were doing that, so it looks really darn partner-y because as best as i can tell, you were pushing catnoi over enchant for no reason

If there was a townie mindset for that, you've failed to both displau it yesterday or explain it today

And i object to the strawman, especially sincr i'm p sure you know that's a strawman
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Post Post #6710 (isolation #899) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:01 am

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In post 6707, Kaiji wrote:Note - not a shred of analysis of why. Just repeating "awful" multiple times.

This is not a player trying to solve my alignment. This is a player trying to gaslight the other players into believing their narrative.
Note - not a shred of analysis of why. Just repeating 'skitter is scim' multiple times

This is not a player trying to solve my aligbment. This is a player trying to gaslight the other players into believing their narrative

~

I can throw this right back at you, stop acting all holier than thou like you've got a great scumcase on me that's more than just 'skitter is scum' because that's apparently conveninwnt for you to push rn

You're ignoring that i've already laid out my issues with your play today (which you've never addressed), and are curiouslu not calling dats or catboi scum for making the same exact points as me, for no reason other than it doesnt fit your agenda apparently

This reads like baseless nonsense
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Post Post #6715 (isolation #900) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:06 am

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In post 6707, Kaiji wrote:My defense was incorrect- albeit in good faith of how *I* was reading the game at the time. Town is fully capable of making mistakes and having the wrong read.

My entry? - It was a normal entry. Skitter won't even quote it or explain anything about it, because she is probably planning on taking catboi to final 6 and reuse this because catboi said something about my entry.
- explain why it makes sense with how you were readong the game at the time. This is all i (and dats and catboi and now alyssa) want out of you

- i already explained why i disliked your entry 6444. Again noting that catboi made the exact same point in 6449 (5 posts later than me), which you responded to and addressed, but somehow when i make the same point prior to him i nevee explained my thought process. This, if anything, is twisting the timeline, as catboi repeated my point, i didnt repeat his ...
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Post Post #6716 (isolation #901) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:07 am

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In post 6708, Kaiji wrote:
In post 6705, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Kaiji my main doubt about you is that you're saying all this about me when you were pushing me as scum yesterday too

It really is probably just better to go into your thought process changes yesterday since it would address both of these, and it would give the others more to get reads off of since they'll probably be the main ones having to decide this
it's hard for me to just ... do it on my own, I do well when people query me on specific things because uhh yeah i posted a lot and it is a daunting task and all.

It would help to have a whole list of what things would need to be answered so I can kill all birds with one explaination post.


I like to be *thorough* so its like frustrating trying to do an ultimate self case when I know people are just looking at certain things as evidence I need to disprove.
Whooo massive tone shift here and also not answering the question

@ alyssa can you explicitly ask kaiji why they were trying to get catboi flipped yesterday
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Post Post #6719 (isolation #902) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:09 am

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You're being conciliatory towards alyssa
Not sure why you need me to explicitly say it since its blatantly obvious
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Post Post #6722 (isolation #903) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:11 am

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VOTE: Kaiji

I know we're not doing this today but until we actually do enchant

I think i'm ignoring kaiji now as this is just frustrating me and doesnt seem to be convincing anyone rn anyways

But again i'm literally floored that everyone is just giving them a free pass for yesterday and today
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Post Post #6723 (isolation #904) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:11 am

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This game has just been going on for eons and its been so impossible to make *anything* happen and now it just ugh
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Post Post #6725 (isolation #905) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:13 am

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And boy am i regretting not pushing thru nsg while she was getting replaced day2 or whenever that was

Pedit literally all that anybody wants from you is to Explain Your Emchant Trajectory

Its really not that complicated
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Post Post #6731 (isolation #906) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:15 am

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*deep breath*

*deep breath*

*deep breath*
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Post Post #6734 (isolation #907) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:16 am

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*deep breath*

Pedit ok later
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Post Post #6743 (isolation #908) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:30 am

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Ok then i have things to say in post, not much more to say rn

If anyone has questions for me lmk, otherwise yeah
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Post Post #6783 (isolation #909) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:21 am

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A full month and a half for me >.>
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Post Post #6807 (isolation #910) » Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:56 am

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I'm just noting that kaiji has successfully managed to kill my wim

I dont have anything else to say
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Post Post #6821 (isolation #911) » Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:23 am

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In post 6809, Kaiji wrote:
In post 6807, skitter30 wrote:I'm just noting that kaiji has successfully managed to kill my wim

I dont have anything else to say
You're just frozen because i answered all the questions you supposedly wanted answered and you have no way to weaponize the answers against me
No, i just dont particularly care to argue this with you further, esp since i'm p sure what i want to say is skirting site rules

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Post Post #6822 (isolation #912) » Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:25 am

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I think this is hammer, we ready to wnd day?
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Post Post #6979 (isolation #913) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:56 pm

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I got hooded, yay

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upon seeing the enchant vig flip, i got reminded that kaiji slipped they arent vig. To my utter frustration and annoyance, they are probably town (and probably my strongest tr at this point)

Kaiji, is there actually a chance i can get you untunneled by responding to you? If yes, im more than happy to enter a dialogue with you. If not, and you're going to ignore me, i'm just not going to bother, and have already accepted that might mean a loss, but i'm not going to spend time on something that will frustrate me if there's no chance its going to help. Up to u how much effort i put into this

If ur gonna ignore me, well, there's gotta be 2 other town, so i'm just gonna try to find them and put my efforts there instead :shrug: if nyone else wants to talk to me abt something, feel free to ask

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In other news, i am >90% confident in alyssa-scum
I am not sure who the last one is rn

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I dont think there's a venge, and i dont particularly think scum has ascetic cop either

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Post Post #6980 (isolation #914) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:58 pm

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In post 6886, Kaiji wrote:btw catboi you were left alive bc a) the scum narrative is that Alyssa and I are scum together so they can't shoot Alyssa and b) you are tunneled on me
No, i'm p sure mare got killed because that gives the least amt of info
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Post Post #6981 (isolation #915) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:59 pm

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In post 6890, Kaiji wrote:I'm very susceptible to pockets so give me your take because frankly I'm not seeing it at all here

You'd have to argue TMI and find me what takes she made from a pov of tmi IMO if you were to sell a scum Alyssa world - granted this is imo not possible because I have taken time to sort her myself
You're pocketed and she's using the pocket to coast rn
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Post Post #6982 (isolation #916) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:00 pm

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In post 6903, Datisi wrote:but you see, i don't believe you're town right now, and if we had followed that skill, we would've executed catboi because enchant was apparently obvtown to you so you will have to excuse me if i am Slightly Skeptical of your intentions
I mean they can be town and have awful reads ...
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Post Post #6983 (isolation #917) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:01 pm

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In post 6909, Something_Smart wrote:Right now my top two townreads are you and Kaiji, and between catboi and Alyssa I'm more inclined to trust Kaiji on Alyssa, so my tentative solve is skitter/catboi.
That's unfortunate
- i'm p sure kaiji is pocketed by alyssa
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Post Post #6984 (isolation #918) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:04 pm

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In post 6911, Datisi wrote:
In post 6908, Kaiji wrote:I have to be town if the 1 shot vig was scum because I apparently slipped it wasn't
it would be appreciated if she were to explain this.
Seeing enchant actually flip scum reminded me that kaiji basically slipped they arent, so my read changed there with the flip

I was v pissed yesterday and that colored my read there. Tbh i am still kinda pissed but i got new info that clarified things for me overnight (i.e. enchant flipping vig) and i am trying v hard to get over it
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Post Post #6985 (isolation #919) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:05 pm

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In post 6914, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6912, Datisi wrote:you townread me? ... who are you and what have you done to s_s?
If it makes you feel any better it's not due to any of your posts.
If u can clarify y u townread him that would be helpful
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Post Post #6986 (isolation #920) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:09 pm

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In post 6946, Kaiji wrote:to skitter: if you ARE by some miracle a townie - your job here is to deep dive my slot and actually read and show your work on why your read is the way it is

You will come to the conclusion of town if you do this correctly. I do not care how you feel about this request - I am simply telling you how to save this game if you are town. that is all I can do in the case that you are town and we end up losing because of a TvT mutual tunnel.
- i did already
- i dont know how to get u out of ur half of the tunnel
- if ur town and you wont talk to me we *are* going to lose. Again, if you'll actually listen to what i have to say, i'll respond to the variety of posts you're making abt me ... otherwise, again, i'm accepting the loss and am not going to bother
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Post Post #6987 (isolation #921) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:13 pm

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In post 6947, Kaiji wrote:to add onto the top - You also need to find and case a person as scum outside of me. Similarly to how I am in a position where I did some sus looking shit and am busting ass to make up for it - your position in the gamestate is similar and the expectation is the same.
Alyssa - you've been pocketed and she's using that to coast and is letting you do her dirty work for her

She is not nearly as obvtown as you think she is rn, and i dont think she should be accepting the obvtownread nearly as easily as she is, but she's doing so since its obviously conveninet for her, and she's gonna win off of it without doing much if u stay tunneled

Also eod1 still doesnt make sense if she isnt scum

If you want more of a case / going thru her iso, its not gonna happen before tomorrow irl almost for sure
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Post Post #6988 (isolation #922) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:14 pm

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In post 6948, Kaiji wrote:I only extend this because of a situation in SCP upick where I misread LLD slot because she was blatantly wrong on everything and tried to coast on her claim and i ended up FOSing her slot in the end because of it(she replaced out) and scum won because of it.


I entertain ALL options in ELo/MeLo as should you if you are town.
I mean if you'll actually listen to me, great
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Post Post #6989 (isolation #923) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:16 pm

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In post 6950, Kaiji wrote:
In post 4873, skitter30 wrote:WHY is cat town ... i asked you like 3x now ... ?
and i'm not as sus of dats as i am of cat
skitter - what happened to catboi scumread btw?

surely just a guilty from a confirmed scum when both slots were getting pressure at the time isn't 100% clearing to you, right?
Its not, and he's v firmly in my poe rn. I dont think he's clear for enchant shenanigans, and if he thinks he is, i'd like him to revisit why

I actually have glimmerings of townpings on dats, so i'm looking at ss/catboi mainly rn
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Post Post #6990 (isolation #924) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:16 pm

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In post 6952, Kaiji wrote:
In post 4958, skitter30 wrote:@catboi from my pov if mena is venegeful that makes you or dats the vig

And from your pov that makes dats the vig (or me i suppose)
wondering what happened from this progression
Not sure what you're asking, mena didnt flip venge
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Post Post #6991 (isolation #925) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:18 pm

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In post 6954, Kaiji wrote:it really do be funny that skitter tries to push me as scum for bad takes on mena slot when she was
soft defending him all of d3
until it was certain most people were scumreading his slot

i do wish i wasn't the only one reading this game as a whole
I wasnt but ok
My options day3 were to just flip the slot or nolim and let night actions try to figure it out.
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Post Post #6992 (isolation #926) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:19 pm

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In post 6963, Kaiji wrote:IMO -> this was a slip because of how high catboi was placed and thats why the rectification right away like "oh fuck i was pushing catboi all day and now theyre lock town level i shouldnt have done that"

because i made them post reads under pressure
No, its because after i typed it I realized catboi didnt reel right being as high of town as andante, so i lowered him
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Post Post #6993 (isolation #927) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:24 pm

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In post 6964, Kaiji wrote:
In post 5463, Kaiji wrote:hammer ur partner
skitter had a chance to hammer enchant - they did not here and stalled.

i was pushing to end day here.
I'm indecisive and hate hammering, esp in a potential elo situation. Feel free to look at ... basically any game i was in in elo in to verify that. I always spend abt 10 thousand years being indecisive and not wanting to commit until the last possible moment

Whereas, again, as scum, i am very much aware of optics and how i'd look after the flip of a partner. This is not now i'd treat a partner, and i would not spend 2 weeks dilly-dally-ing knowing he's inevitably getting flipped and knowing how i'd look afterwards. That's just not how i play scum when i have all the answers
When i dont have all the answers i dont have perfect trajectory and look bad, sure
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Post Post #6994 (isolation #928) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:24 pm

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In post 6966, Kaiji wrote:the fact i solved enchant as town from an alyssa scum pov makes me believe that slot is town here still.
No, why?
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Post Post #6995 (isolation #929) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:25 pm

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In post 6974, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I'm becoming more and more convinced that these kills were planned out in advance rather than decided upon the night they happened
Idk why u keep talking abt this, or why this is important
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Post Post #6996 (isolation #930) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:26 pm

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In post 6978, Kaiji wrote:
In post 6147, skitter30 wrote:I just dont think i'm condident enuf to vote enchant rn, and i'm not going to be in the next 10 minutes

VOTE: no-lim
hmm,?
Hmmm?
I was literally sitting in an airport and waiting to board a flight as I wrote that, i did not have the presence of mind to absolutely convince myself that enchant was scum and that i wasnt going to be the losing vote

And iirc flight was through deadline so i needed to commit to something before boarding
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Post Post #6997 (isolation #931) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:36 pm

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In post 6924, Kaiji wrote:
In post 436, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 433, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 431, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 426, innocentvillager wrote:I’m also invested in catboi skitter I like some of skitters posts like they vibe with me more but ik
In post 6931, Kaiji wrote:
In post 935, skitter30 wrote:
In post 767, Datisi wrote:VOTE: skitter

here's a thought. i dislike the way skitter went from townreading me for ??? reasons to walking back from it. frankly it kinda mirrors the thread in a weird way. i can imagine scum!skitter starting the game off with townreading me because i'm generally a loud townspew-y player so why get into that mess when she can try to get on my good side early. but once she realized i'm *not* getting townread? "nevermind datisi isn't townie anymore".

i don't like the callouts for being "defensive" either. because she started off with agreeing with catboi that i was being conciliatory towards nsg's scumread on me (and with the implication that that's scummy), and then it turned into me being overly defensive of the scumread. don't those two things have the opposite meaning? it feels opportunistic, like she's grabbing onto the general scumreads on me before i turn them over and making sure that doesn't happen. i don't like it.
- i liked your early game, and you were giving me similar vibes to what i've often seen from early-town-you. i'm not sure tbh why you find that read to be quite shocking
- given that you *don't* think that you're being townie for you, i'm also not sure why you have a problem with me changing my mind
- in this pl you wouldn't be a high priority person to buddy for scum-me imo, i don't think i would really put much, if any, thought into trying to avoid 'getting into that mess' by 'getting on your good side early'
- if that *was* my plan i certainly wouldn't lol-reverse it just because some people are calling you scummy, i'd probably wk you ...
- i'm lowkey surprised that you think this is the tactic that i'd take as scum (particularly the bit where i'd reverse course so suddenly)
- i think you were trying to deflect nsg's scurmead but like in a non-aggressive way. it isn't 'classically' defensive but you were trying to get her a bit off of your back i think, so it read as defensive to me
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I think we should definitely revisit day 1 and have skitter reexplain what her thought processes were here.

"I forgor" is not an excuse - read datisi's posts and say where the ideas came from.
Since i'm apparently not too annoyed at this present moment:

Basically what i wrote above. Dats had early townpings, so i called him town

At some point, he did something that made me scumread him. Iirc it was roughly around the time nsg was pushing him and he had an oddly defensive response to her, and i find it scummy at the time since it felt like he was trying to get her off his back

He preceeded to call me scum for havign the trajectory of: townreading initially to buddy him, and then scumreading him when other people were scumreading him since its more convenient

I pointed out that this isnt how i play scum, as i dont think i'd have been buddying him in the first place necessarily, qnd if i had decided to buddy him, i wouldnt drop it just because other people were scumreading him. That wouldnt be a 'clean' trajectory, and when i'm scum i try really, really hard to have trajectories that are maintainable and explainable. I dont just drop things on a whim at non-critical times when i wouldnt even, like, get a flip out of it
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Post Post #6998 (isolation #932) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:39 pm

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In post 6943, Kaiji wrote:like look how soft the top interaction is - compared to the bottom.
i know this is picked out but the ISO button is right there for you to peruse yourself.
I didnt have a strong read on pooky at the time because he wasnt, like, doing anything.

I tried to sort him ~1608 iirc but i had to leave in middle, and then he wouldnt re-emgage despite me trying multiple times over the next week
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Post Post #6999 (isolation #933) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:40 pm

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In post 6945, Kaiji wrote:can imagine spec chat right now either celebrating us for finding the right path or cursing us for going down dumb rabbitholes
Very much the latter
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Post Post #7003 (isolation #934) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:00 pm

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I dont think i would be betting the game on enchant going deep, esp. not aftwr he repped into the mess mena left him with

I would have bussed and taken a much firmer stance if i were scum. I didnt because i wasnt 100% sure and i hate deciding things in elo, and i was distracted irl for much of day3 (i.e. preparing for my trip) and coulsnt concentrate as much as i would have liked
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Post Post #7005 (isolation #935) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:14 pm

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I feel like that's a relatively weak point at this stage tbh
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Post Post #7011 (isolation #936) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:26 pm

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In post 7008, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:so skitter is >90% sure I'm scum after doing zero critical thought on my alignment for multiple day phases

yeah that's a legit thought process
No, i've been leaning that way for a while (iirc i even started day2 i think voting you). Earlier ir was poe, but now you being scum makes at least some of this game make sense

I dont have the full solve yet, but i'm p confident in this one
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Post Post #7012 (isolation #937) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:26 pm

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In post 7009, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
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In post 6974, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I'm becoming more and more convinced that these kills were planned out in advance rather than decided upon the night they happened
Idk why u keep talking abt this, or why this is important
and what exactly do you mean by "keep talking about this"
The nk's, i dont ger what your point is or what you think they indiciate abt the game. Most of them were p obvious, and most scumteams would be making these kills
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Post Post #7013 (isolation #938) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:28 pm

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In post 7010, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:also you're actually fucking nuts if you think I would feel safe having pocketed the single most volatile person in the game

frankly I value pockets very little in general, but I don't expect anyone to believe that offhand

but relying on being townread from the slot that is the most likely to just arbitrarily turn on me (considering HE LITERALLY DID THAT EARLIER IN THE GAME ALREADY) is such a bad play
I mean they're townreading you p darn strongly, and if you're scum letting them just do their thing (i.e. misflip me), and encouraging that, is a p clear and obvious winning play
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Post Post #7014 (isolation #939) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:31 pm

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That was a bad sentence

But basically from my pov: i'm town. I think kaiji is town. Letting kaiji push through a flip on me today gives scum a win, and they're obviously townreading u p strongly.

Leaning into their townread of you and encouraging a flip on me is the obvious and easiest way to win this from scum-you's pov

I dont think your reasons to scumread me are real, you've just been going on abt 'oh i think how skitter is playing this game is weird'

When kaiji started pushing me hard yesterday, you basically threw ur weight behind his solve, with very little critical thought of your own, and *that's exactly how scum-you plays this out*
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Post Post #7015 (isolation #940) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:36 pm

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Also i'm at the point where eod1 makes no sense if your slot is town
I refuse to believe that there were 4 eod flip-candidates, all of whom were town, and that most of the people doing the pushes were town as well

(Esp. if nsg was town)
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Post Post #7018 (isolation #941) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:41 pm

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Not sure what you're saying
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Post Post #7022 (isolation #942) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:49 pm

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Why is ss town to you / why is he not in your solve?
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Post Post #7024 (isolation #943) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:52 pm

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What's your solve today then ?

Who do you want to flip?
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Post Post #7028 (isolation #944) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:00 pm

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In post 7026, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 7024, skitter30 wrote:What's your solve today then ?

Who do you want to flip?
I'll decide that when I figure it out
Ok ...
Just to elaborate on where i'm coming from: idk what dats' alignment is. I know i'm town. I think kaiji is town. So i'm focusing on your read on me (i.e. vs on dats) to puzzle this out

Right when kaiji starting pushing me, you very strongly indicated that you thought it was
a dats/*me* solve (, ), when your read on me i dont think has been substantiated in a way to justify that being the solve from your pov

However, if you're scum, and kaiji is town pushing a misflip on me, a me/dats solve is exactly what you want, since you can just let kaiji take charge and push me today
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Post Post #7029 (isolation #945) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:00 pm

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Also night!
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Post Post #7031 (isolation #946) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:06 pm

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Well i'm giving more weight to the former than the latter. (These were kinda two separate thoughts, like:

1. All of the eod1 potential flip candidiates being town is ??? to me (i.e. points to alyssa)
2. Additinally, all of the people pushing them being town is just kinda strange to me, not sure I derived any particular conclusions from this observation)
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Post Post #7033 (isolation #947) » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:21 pm

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Because eod wagons with that much scramble are rarely all on town imo, and the more people involved makes it less likely
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Post Post #7044 (isolation #948) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:35 am

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In post 7042, Kaiji wrote:You see why do i assume people read games in the same capacity as me lol

Skitter just self cased saying how they would have full busssd enchant/mena rather than how they did treat the slot but it was scummy how i did it last dayphase?

In addition i believe the benefit was for Skitter to make sure enchant slot doesnt go over yet, earning 1 mislim is worth being viewed as scummy because its still arguable.
Well i mean u were actively trying to get catboi flipped
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Post Post #7047 (isolation #949) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:15 am

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I wasnt saying u were scum for it, but pointing out how i view the difference

Honestly a lot of day3 is blurring together in my mind, i didnt remember that it happened right before that
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Post Post #7057 (isolation #950) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:42 am

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In post 7049, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:This day one flow trap argument feels really reachy
In that ...
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Post Post #7058 (isolation #951) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:43 am

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In post 7050, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:If that's still one of your main arguments when it's one of those types of information that's most prone to change with flips, especially when you're suddenly sure, it doesn't look genuine at all
Sorry shoupd have gone to next page >.>

From my pov its looking more and more suspicious with more flips, not less suspicious. I dont know how else to explain eod1 if you're town. What's your explanation?
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Post Post #7059 (isolation #952) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:44 am

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In post 7053, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 7033, skitter30 wrote:Because eod wagons with that much scramble are rarely all on town imo, and the more people involved makes it less likely
This feels like a misapplication of probability. If we assume that all wagons were completely random, then it would be 33% for all four wagons to be town (from a neutral POV), and 73% for the fourth wagon to be town knowing that the first three were. Is there a particular reason outside of this to believe that they weren't all town?
I utterly suck at probability >.>
From just a 'i've played a lot of mafia and seen a lot of eod scrambles' perspective, i find it unlikely that everyone involved is town.

How often do you see that happen?
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Post Post #7060 (isolation #953) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:46 am

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Fwiw i did claim the hood, not sure scum-ac-me knows i was the target ... (i.e. and risk that mare didnt target like ss or something)

Alyssa are u gonna address my 'you're using kaiji to misflip me today' theory?
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Post Post #7061 (isolation #954) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:48 am

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Ss why am i scum?
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Post Post #7066 (isolation #955) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:39 am

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In post 7064, Kaiji wrote:This latest "alyssa scum" angle is just frankly, embarassing. Alyssa just goes with consensus of pushing me and it could be gg+ it silences me.
Why tho. Ur townreading her and pushing me, its easier to the way she is at this point
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Post Post #7067 (isolation #956) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:41 am

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* to go the way she is as scum

I would appreciare it if you can at least consider that universe, because voting for me is gonna be a loss and i'm p sure she's scum
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Post Post #7068 (isolation #957) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:45 am

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But either way after this 300 page behemoth i dont have much else to say if you're set on this
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Post Post #7070 (isolation #958) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:11 am

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In post 7060, skitter30 wrote:Alyssa are u gonna address my 'you're using kaiji to misflip me today' theory?
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Post Post #7071 (isolation #959) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:13 am

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And wrt yesterday - i mean sure, but its a lot easier to fit scum-me into your pov than scum-kaiji all of a sudden.
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Post Post #7074 (isolation #960) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:19 am

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Fair enuf

Any more thoughrs on a solve feom your pov ?
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Post Post #7082 (isolation #961) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:45 am

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I mean if i'm scum with mena slot i also cant claim ac if mena is
(Although if i'm scum with mena slot and had been setting up an ac claim, i dont let him claim ac either ...)
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Post Post #7083 (isolation #962) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:46 am

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In post 7078, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 7059, skitter30 wrote:How often do you see that happen?
I have no idea, but my intuition is that it's not
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rare? The town's collective reads are often not better than random on D1.
Idk i dont think i've seen a 3way scramble that was all on town. If i have none are coming to mind rn

This was 4way
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Post Post #7088 (isolation #963) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:47 am

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In post 7050, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:If that's still one of your main arguments when it's one of those types of information that's most prone to change with flips, especially when you're suddenly sure, it doesn't look genuine at all
Kaiji r u set on me ?
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Post Post #7089 (isolation #964) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:47 am

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Whoops didnt mean to quote that
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Post Post #7100 (isolation #965) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:03 am

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It was nearly entirely that

I saw the flip
I dont think you claim not-vig the way you did as scum
If you're town alyssa makes sense as scum

That's ehat i immediately thought upon seeing the flip and that all just kinda clicked into place at once

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I dont think i do a 180 on you as scum
I dont interact with pooky the way i did as scum, and he doesnt ignore me inthread the way he did if we're partners together: he doesnt try to aggregate partner-me as scum
I dont have mena claim ac as scum, and in some bizarro universe where i think that's a good idea, i dont have a wishy-washy trajectory on the slot. I would have some sort of premeditated plan, and then either hard bus or hard defend

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- i dont think she's substantiated her scumread on me to justify her solve being me/dats yesterday, and i dont like that she committed to that once you started pushing it, and i dont like rhay she backed off of it today

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Post Post #7101 (isolation #966) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:05 am

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In post 6268, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Ftr I think the second scum is obvious by now with an Enchant scumflip

I think my PoE is pretty much the same as it was yesterday, just with Enchant being way more likely now than yesterday
Who was this at this point btw?
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Post Post #7105 (isolation #967) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:08 am

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In post 5594, Kaiji wrote:Ok currently leaning:

We no lim

Enchant checks Alyssa.
In post 5601, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:My prevailing thought regarding no kill is that Enchant, if scum, just claims a guilty on a town, the scumteam kill whatever town is most likely to see through the deception, and they just need to convince whatever other towns are left that they're right and they're simply home free
I still really hate this sequence as well
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Post Post #7108 (isolation #968) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:14 am

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I dont understand what you're saying, sorry
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Post Post #7115 (isolation #969) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:28 am

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In post 7107, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 7105, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5594, Kaiji wrote:Ok currently leaning:

We no lim

Enchant checks Alyssa.
In post 5601, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:My prevailing thought regarding no kill is that Enchant, if scum, just claims a guilty on a town, the scumteam kill whatever town is most likely to see through the deception, and they just need to convince whatever other towns are left that they're right and they're simply home free
I still really hate this sequence as well
And why do I can it out instead of letting that exact sequence happen and killing him the next day exactly
It looks to me like you're trying to avoid a scenario where enchant is 'leashed' to you

Pedit i mean, again, enchant flipping vig changed my pov of the gamestate. I didnt know he was vig before, now i do

Before it was poe + eod1, and no, i didnt have much more than that before today
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Post Post #7119 (isolation #970) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:35 am

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Yes

Basically when i saw the flip i thought: enchant is vig -> kaiji unlikely to be scum if there's a vig ahead of them in the draft due to slipping not-vig earlier -> kaiji probably town -> they're pushing me p darn hard for a misflip -> scum probably want to take advantage of that because its the easy win for them if kaiji will do the legwork -> scum probably want to push me -> day3 after kaiji started to scumread me hard alyssa committed to me being in her solve -> alyssa fits the profile of what i think scum were doing there -> alyssa scum

That's what i thought when i saw the flip

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Post Post #7120 (isolation #971) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:35 am

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@dats whoops
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Post Post #7122 (isolation #972) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:43 am

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In post 7118, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Like I really don't see how skitter ever wins as scum without hard pushing me at this stage in the game

It's not even a bad idea in general because I'm one of those players that pretty much always gets paranoia scumread by this stage of the game

Skitter very commonly wants to think through everything in the endgame and make sure she's on the right track and making the correct call, but instead she's just hard pushing me out of the gate with reasoning that just doesn't stand up to scrutiny

Like tbh if this by itself isn't strong evidence, idk what to tell you that will be convincing. I feel like I've been incredibly obvtown at multiple points and I've directly shut down several possible miselim possibilities for myself on slots that are confirmed town now

I don't want to engage into these arguments because then they can be spun to mitigate this, and that's a lot more damaging than just not engaging into them
- idk why you think i hardpush you as scum at this stage in the game, i think i'd have an easier time selling like dats or ss (no offense to either <3). You're higher up/harder in the 'how likely am i to push you as scum' scale
- and again, my whole mo as scum is 'clean trajectories'. I dont devise a messy elo where i need to push someone with 'reasoning that doesnt stand up to scrutiny'
- can you point to some of the places you think you were obvtown plz?

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Post Post #7123 (isolation #973) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:44 am

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In post 7121, Datisi wrote:
In post 7119, skitter30 wrote:kaiji unlikely to be scum if there's a vig ahead of them in the draft due to slipping not-vig earlier
okay, isn't this something that we knew beforehand? like, the vig pool was me/enchant/catboi/you

i acknowledge this is something that i might be biased on because i tried to go for that pair and didn't get it, so i knew the vig was somewhere above me, but wasn't this a commonly accepted thing?
I mean yes but i got distracted by their bad push yesterday and kinda forgot/that thought got overriden by other ones ... enchant flipping exactly vig knocked that back into me

If he flipped like goon or something i dont think it would have had the same impact
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Post Post #7138 (isolation #974) » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:28 pm

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In post 7124, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 7122, skitter30 wrote:and again, my whole mo as scum is 'clean trajectories'. I dont devise a messy elo where i need to push someone with 'reasoning that doesnt stand up to scrutiny'
I'm just going to put this out there

This only makes the idea that I'm your only push worse
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Post Post #7174 (isolation #975) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:48 am

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vla until monday
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Post Post #7176 (isolation #976) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:08 am

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In post 7145, Kaiji wrote:
In post 7137, catboi wrote:
In post 6979, skitter30 wrote:upon seeing the enchant vig flip, i got reminded that kaiji slipped they arent vig. To my utter frustration and annoyance, they are probably town (and probably my strongest tr at this point)
how does that make kaiji town, I don't get it
why are none of the people who expressed suspicion of me dead?
I mean, do u actually think i kill you as scum last night?
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Post Post #7177 (isolation #977) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:09 am

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In post 7156, Kaiji wrote:I'd find it much more liklier that since Skitter was pushing catboi, and I was pushing mena/enchant at the time - in a town!skitter world - that he felt demotivated because 2 scum members were under heavy fire from strong players.
Ig i just find it more likely that town-him gets demotivated than scum-him
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Post Post #7178 (isolation #978) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:11 am

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I still think its alyssa
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Post Post #7180 (isolation #979) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:14 am

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Which one thing?
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Post Post #7183 (isolation #980) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:30 am

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I'm still not following
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Post Post #7185 (isolation #981) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:32 am

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I dont know
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Post Post #7189 (isolation #982) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:40 am

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In post 7186, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Sometime later in D2 I caught on to her defending Andante in a very "I know she's town" type of way, figured it was because she was cop with an inno on Andante and didn't want to out her role
It was cuz i knew she was telling the truth abt her role (i.e. i'm vt) and with the way she was playing thought she was v town, + thought she actually picked tracker and didnt think scum picked tracker in that bracket

Pedit u did mention it. Yeah
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Post Post #7190 (isolation #983) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:41 am

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In post 7186, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Figured out she was scumreading me for really odd reasons, she had no read on specifically me despite that only ever having happened before in a town her/scum me world where I was perpetually staying in the background (aka not this). This is never how she has acted towards me before in a TvT world and her responses to me poking about this were very lackluster
- i do think you've been staying in the background (i.e. not driving things yourself, but letting other people drive things)
- not sure why this is scum-indicative for me
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Post Post #7191 (isolation #984) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:43 am

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In post 7186, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Starting today I backed off mainly because I trust my townreads in this game more than my scumreads. It simply makes more sense to try to find all the town rather than find all the scum
I mean i find this dubious but ok
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Post Post #7193 (isolation #985) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:47 am

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I'm confused why you think its scummy of me to be scumreading you when you're playing similarly to a game where you were scum and town-me scumread you

Full disclosure i do not presently remember that game
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Post Post #7196 (isolation #986) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:50 am

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What game are we even talking abt >.>

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Post Post #7197 (isolation #987) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:56 am

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You had the same trajectory on me there as you've had these padt 2 days so ...
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Post Post #7198 (isolation #988) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:13 am

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In post 7194, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:and shoving myself into the spotlight
Also where do u think u did this .. ?
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Post Post #7200 (isolation #989) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:40 am

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Ok then, i feel like i tried
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Post Post #7219 (isolation #990) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:14 pm

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In post 7212, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 7200, skitter30 wrote:Ok then, i feel like i tried
Also

If you're town, you've done a really bad job this game of showing me that your engagements are in good faith

That's not meant to be an insult, just a blunt truth as to why I'm not really willing to engage into them anymore
I really dont know why you think i'm acting in bad faith. I am more than happy to continue the convo, and i do think thay there's a chance that i'm wrong, and understanding your approach to the game will help me get there if i am

If you dont want to engage with me tho, that's fine - i've accepted that there's only so much i can do (/so much time and energy i'm willing to put in) here to change the probably inevitable outcome
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Post Post #7220 (isolation #991) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:15 pm

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In post 7214, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Or skitter is having a horrific game
This is very possible, yes
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Post Post #7222 (isolation #992) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:28 pm

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I am becoming more sus of ss as this day goes on tho
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Post Post #7224 (isolation #993) » Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:06 pm

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You feel very content to just watch this play out
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Post Post #7227 (isolation #994) » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:25 am

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Ok then
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Post Post #7229 (isolation #995) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:10 am

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I'm dubious
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Post Post #7232 (isolation #996) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:23 am

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vla until like friday idk


Catboi i see your post, idk when i'll have the mental wherewithall to respond to it
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Post Post #7253 (isolation #997) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:38 am

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In post 7250, catboi wrote:don't pull your fucking tough guy routine about how you're going to interrogate everyone on their progressions if you're not willing to answer to scrutiny yourself
In post 7249, Kaiji wrote:you look and only see what u want to see its ok we can win the next one.

[Unv][/unv]

I was putting up a charade to see how skitter spews thinking shes clear but shes deadset on alyssa as her push.
Ew, gross
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Post Post #7255 (isolation #998) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:40 am

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That was for the latter quote, but i wholeheartedly agree with the first one too
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Post Post #7263 (isolation #999) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:58 am

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In post 7256, Datisi wrote:while i am not a fan of whatever the fuck is going on, i am confused on why skitter characterizes that post as "ew" when to me it looks like koba doing koba things
They're telegraphing they're gonna vote me again
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