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[KittyTacky]

I'm interested in how others perceive Flavor's play here - I'm inclined to think town because I think they're genuinely trying to solve and put necessary pressure on other players, but by the same token they seem skilled enough to approach the game this way as mafia and potentially manage to get away with it. I do find it interesting that they've basically been able to alter the direction of the game with pretty minimal pushback at all beyond those they've suspected.

That's also my take, right meow I have Flavor as a solid tyownread.

[KittyTacky]

sure. you can believe that. or you can let it go, townread it for now, go find other scum, and reevaluate later.

Feels like an unnecessarily confrontational post. Why not just directly address what I'm saying instead of passing it off? Your stance on a player changed very quickly and I'm interested to know why.

why does that feel confrontational to you?

Probably the snarky tone?

[KittyTacky]

If Italiano ever flips wolf that can be fulfilled but that was a joke combined with my confidence in my own play. I think wolves are playing very well and/or there is an uninformed aspect in the mix - which is why the traitor thing was noted - I feel trouble finding a viable trio.

Yeah I'm finding it hard to read the game so far, that's why I'm kinda quiet. My two scumreads are shaky and so are my townreads.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Koopa

For flooding the game with crappy contradicting logic.

Scorpious stonks going down.

Speaking of contradicting logic, did anyone else notice how Mala went fully into lurkspace after people stopped pushing them? Sus.

[Roden]

VOTE: Malakittens

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Malakittens

Choo choo.

[KittyTacky]

Scorpious is also scummy to me.

[KittyTacky]

Catchup done, the FL/HEM shitfight was honestly tiring to read.

[Not Known 15]

Fl is town

What makes FL town to you?

[Not Known 15]

The catchup nested within spoilers is performative to me,

i was trying to elicit some sort of interaction with italiano, but they stone walled.


Fine, you convinced me.

Human/Italiano/Roden + 1 lesser active player way too early scum prediction, and also all based individually as well.

In that order for me.

Now you need to explain why you classified the roden read here as individually.

I am still waiting for an answer!

[JacksonVirgo]

I do apologize for not posting much, have been busy doing a few things.

1. Working on learning machine learning
2. Literally hating life cuz I was in isolation when I wasn't sick so bored out my brains.
3. Interent modem died so stuck using mobile data.
4. Didn't really feel motivated to play this, but I'll get there.

I am doing an escape room tomorrow so after that I'd likely be able to catch up again. Just thought I'd let you know why instead of just lurkin' even though I am not afraid to admit whenever I am doing so, see my sig for more details.

[Flavor Leaf]

Catchup done, the FL/HEM shitfight was honestly tiring to read.

Exactly what I stated was the purpose by HEM before HEM and I went

[Flavor Leaf]

For what it’s worth, if Malakittens is scum, she’s played in a way where I’m likely not gonna see it, but I did mention that Koala’ing possibility.

I’m the one that would get Koala’d, though, so I will not be able to see her as scum even if she was, if that makes sense.

That being said, my gut still reads her as town, knowing my gut could be wrong. I feel like Malakittens has had similar thoughts around the same time i had them, like the Koopa town read.

I also felt like people were pushing her for non scummy reasons early, and while I see a case on Malakittens, I don’t think it’s the most likely scenario nor do i think they’re the reasons people are pushing her.

[Flavor Leaf]

The catchup nested within spoilers is performative to me,

i was trying to elicit some sort of interaction with italiano, but they stone walled.


Fine, you convinced me.

Human/Italiano/Roden + 1 lesser active player way too early scum prediction, and also all based individually as well.

In that order for me.

Now you need to explain why you classified the roden read here as individually.

I am still waiting for an answer!

Way past Roden. Don’t be dense, there was a large 1v1 between them and I even

[koopashell]

Incredibly - I went through some meta on Scorpious.. and I am shocked to find that their WOLFPLAY has more depth than their villager play somehow.
When comparing:
This wolf game from a game called Internal Affairs:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=26244
and this Villager game from a game called Polish Rap:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=26244

Also interesting tidbit I found in the wolf chat:
Subject: Infernal Affairs Mafia PT

Oh, yeah. You should know that.

I’ll be scum read by page 4. I just come off as scum all the time. I usually get out of it but. There will be a push on me. I’m just not that good at this, but I like the game so much.

[koopashell]

Yeah. I am reading through and Scorpious is 10x more lost as a villager than as a wolf

That really is an unfortunate meta to have. Let me switch it up to what I have noticed lately from the others: VOTE: Mala

[koopashell]

That also implies Flavor Leaf was genuinely accurate on Scorpious' meta so there's that, although this kind of explaination would have been useful for me to reach the conclusion myself.

[koopashell]

So take in that thought of me playing this way with a playerlist who isn't that familiar with me.

So did you join this game so that no one would be able to catch you as scum. Clever boy!

Any updated thoughts?

If by updated you mean different then no, if you mean more then yes. I’m sorry but I think it’s amusing to see players trying to sort Leaf. I say just stop, lol. Nobody’s gonna do it. I assume Leaf plays the game similarly regardless of alignment and he is laughing either way at players trying to do so. If Leaf is scum then I assume his partner(s) have already voted him or currently are and he has voted them or currently are. If he is town then scum has voted him or currently are and he has more than likely voted scum or currently is. Again I’m assuming he is town because I’ve had enough content and interactions and reactions from him with me and other slots to come to that conclusion. If I’m wrong, at this point I wouldn’t even be mad losing to scum!Leaf. Leaf you better not be scum though!

Actually - VOTE: Italiano

[koopashell]

Not Known 15
MalcolmTucker
KittyTacky
Flavor Leaf
humaneatingmonkey
Scorpious
Facebones
Malakittens
JacksonVirgo
Saladman27 *
Roden
ItalianoVD

New tiered list just dropped with a huge shift in Scorpious position

[koopashell]

ope I forgot to move Mala down, she goes right above Saladman.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Koopa

:)

[humaneatingmonkey]

im here im tired

i was planning on reading that FL's April Ludgate gameplay. I was in that game, but I was NK'd before we got to play. I was watching from the dead thread. He seemed different there and less trolly and his solves make much more sense, less trying to get on someone's nerves (which I'm feeling he's doing here to me). I had him as scum the whole time. (He was town)

I could be thinking I just don't understand FL's playstyle, or it's a personality clash where I rely on vulnerability to sus out emotions and his go-to response is to wall himself up with sarcasm.

Maybe maybe.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I don’t think it’s the most likely scenario nor do i think they’re the reasons people are pushing her.

why don't you think it's the most likely scenario?

do you think it's town!Malakittens mason baiting just to get you specifically in a safer position? this is ego talk. i dont see how town!Mala would risk outing masons just to save you, maybe you won't see this.

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay that's more hostile than I intended

Offer truce Flavor Leaf I just want to know you better

[koopashell]

VOTE: Koopa

Ellaborate.