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Depends on what he flips. If he flips roleblocker, we have no clue what role his partner is and it could be a large number of people. If he flips Pizza flipper as claimed, were looking for anyone that can be the roleblocker (which can only be a limited amount of people if the assumption of max 1 activated power per person max is true).

If he flips town, Ari is confirmed scum after all and I fucked up. In that scenario were looking for a roleblocker + redirector (but probably mislynching me first).

Why are we lynching Jingle?

Is lynching Shoshin upon a scumflip that doesn't end the game a bad idea? I see minimal reason not to.

It's a very bad idea because I'm town and I'll probably die before LYLO through role. But I'm glad you're suggesting my lynch, because that's how we got confirmed town to LYLO in Labyrinth.

You know how Vecna's perspective literally includes him failing to jailkeep porkens by his own admission

In post 8004, jjh927 wrote:You know how Vecna's perspective literally includes him failing to jailkeep porkens by his own admission

where?

Arguing that it's a mechanical 1V1 between him and Jingle is senseless from his perspective

Whoops I'm bad at ctrl f and quoting

In post 7255, Vecna wrote:The thing confirmed 100% he visited me last night, as my song is different each night.

Last night, anyone visiting me wouldve heard the song Grim Reaper - See you in Hell (I imagined scum would kill me next).

I need Porkens to actually explain how his role works.

wow can't we settle somewhere?

Mechanics suck

THEREFORE-

Porkens visited Vecna while supposedly roleblocked by him.
If Sheep is trueclaiming then we also know that Vecna succeeded in visiting Porkens, but his action failed.
Therefore, Vecna's perspective should really account for that failure


The mechanical 1V1 is Jingle V Ari and I will see it resolved by lynching Ari.

I miss the good old scumhunting

You don't wanna play the mechanics game, play a mountainous.

I mean it's also never just mechanics because detecting the lies is pretty crucial to this

finding a mountainous game on ms lol

doesn't need to be mountainuous, just not overly confusing

In post 8017, Creature wrote:doesn't need to be mountainuous, just not overly confusing

I've got a couple games in the works that are supposed to cater to this. I'll let you know when they hit the queue if you want.

In post 8000, Vecna wrote:but probably mislynching me first.

Lynch Ari over Vec. I'm way more confident on that.

Nero lives until 5P LYLO at least. Shoshin lives until 7P LYLO.

Back to not giving a fuck.

I lied.

Gamma/Meme also town. Creat pretty damn town.

If that doesn't solve the game enough for this to be a townwin, we deserve the loss.

Nero never stated the criteria for his ability
What determines what a lurker is for your ability? I have a vague idea based on past games but a full clarification would help. And if you target someone who qualifies and are redirected to someone who doesn’t what happens?

had a weird thought

if porkens and vecna are both reflective/reactive...

then...

vecna jails porkens, activating reactive messaging, vecna is targeted (because reactive abilities can't be jailkept maybe?), which in turn prompts vecna's reactive message

did vecna get porkens message tho? cause that theory doesn't work if vecna didn't get whatever porkens was supposed to send out

but if porkens ability is like a pgo, then it would trigger before the roleblock, which would cause vecna's ability to trigger before the roleblock as well

so if vecna got the message we should... theoretically... be able to ask mod if that's how those actions would resolve through his interpretation of NAR

probably wrong though but it was a thought -rh

Don't answer the latter.

Only scum can have a redirector. WIFOM is our friend there.

Vecna claims he was told he was poisoned.