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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:54 am
by Jingle
8023 is @8021, btw.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:56 am
by Jingle
Oh yeah, remember to get NSG's claim at some point.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:59 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 7645, sheepsaysmeep wrote:who sends messages to people who visit me
In post 7247, Vecna wrote:That is only supposed to be known to people visiting me
@mod
A) if there was a role "who sends messages to people who visit me" would this ability resolve if they were jailkept?
B) if Vecna also had an ability that sent messages to people who visit him, would this ability resolve in the event that he targeted someone with the ability in A?


Did sheep ever say what message he was sending out last night? i.e. was his message "you are poisoned?" if so then both abilities resolved and it's not actually a 1v1, it's an unexpected resolution to NAR due to reflective ability interactions.

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:01 am
by THE MEME MEN
but shouldn't sheep have gotten vecna's "loud" message then?

SHEEP
a) what was your message last night
b) did you get any messages OTHER than see you in hell?

idk maybe I am in a night action spiral here

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:03 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 8028, THE MEME MEN wrote:a) what was your message last night
that is what is the message you were supposed to send out if someone visited you?

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:06 am
by Jingle
I mean... I kinda just assumed that reflexive messenger was treated as a passive and thus not RB-able. Reflexive triggering reflexive isn't how I'd resolve it but it is reasonable.

The 1v1 is Vecna can't have blocked FB but claims to have. It's with me.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:07 am
by THE MEME MEN
Sheep and Vecna, would you say your messaging abilities are "passive"?

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:16 am
by THE MEME MEN
Anyone know Porkens well enough to know if he would have a reflective message saying "you were poisoned" as a non-poisoning town? LOL

I wanna say regardless of porkens if this is how I think it is then there's almost no way either porkens slot or vecna were either the roleblocking scum or the killing scum last night

now if vecna dies porkens slot could still be third party bullshit

but I'm really happy not lynching either one rn

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:23 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 7291, Jingle wrote:Last night unclaimed, waiting for pizza recipient to claim/not claim.
so you're still waiting for this then...?

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Like, Ari clearly misunderstood something in his claim

the question is whether Ari misunderstood his mod/team-provided fakeclaim, or misunderstood his actual role PM

and, while I have not played with Ari before... I wanna say I give him the benefit of the doubt that it's more plausible he misunderstood his provided-fakeclaim? Like I'm sure mastina wrote something up for the slot before she was lynched

the main problem here is jingle being in a 1v1 with Vecna when Vecna seems... on the realer side of things... while also being in a 1v1 with Ari

there's also the problem that iirc no one obviously town has gotten pizza iirc? like jjh is the only pizza recipient and he has a decent chance of being the killing scum, so hmm.

there are compelling reasons to consider both ari and jingle here ngl

everytime ari does his AtE I think man maybe he's town

and jingle bothers me every now and then

but man the claim is so bad 0.o

sorry stream of consciousness here

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:39 am
by Jingle
In post 8033, THE MEME MEN wrote:so you're still waiting for this then...?
Nah, I was hoping Ari would claim to have gotten pizza at that point. I targeted ari last night. Also, the scumteam should know my role via NR, so...

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:47 am
by THE MEME MEN
Ah yeah, of the scenarios we're dealing with "Ari didn't do anything last night" is not one of them

I think Vecna has a decent point that you suggesting your own lynch as an informative lynch and then backing off that is a big scummy

but I also find your posts breaking down actions really helpful even if it's technically IIoA.

I wanna say maybe you don't precipitate two separate 1v1s as scum... but does Ari forget his fakeclaim as scum?

idk, weird game

I will feel a bit bad if Ari is a mislynch but

idk Ari is there a game you can point to where you fail to understand your role or forget how your role works?

-RH

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:48 am
by Jingle
In post 8032, THE MEME MEN wrote:but I'm really happy not lynching either one rn
I mean... We're lynching me or Ari.

He claims he is a normal hider who hid behind you. I claim that the mod confirmed to me that a normal hider did not hide behind you. I know FB's target was roleblocked, so I have no doubt that my action went through on you.

If he was redirected, why?

If you were busdriven, you wouldn't be roleblocked or I wouldn't see a roleblock. If he was roleblocked he would have gotten pizza.

Lynch me, lynch ari, idrc. But we're lynching one of the two.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:54 am
by Jingle
In post 8035, THE MEME MEN wrote:backing off that
I haven't really backed off of it. I'll self hammer if I get put in self hammer range. This day has dragged on long enough. I prefer lynching the scum, but just ending the day on either of us is acceptable. I think my results point to an Ari/Vec/possiblyShoshin team. I am less sure on Vec than Ari.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:59 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 1816, Ginngie wrote:VOTE: mastina

Kurio and I are now confirmed town

No more discussion let’s go into night
In post 1828, Ginngie wrote:kurio is confirmed town now because of the loyal modifier

we have to lynch mastina now

and mastina as town said im conf time so Im conf town

thats it
In post 2245, Ginngie wrote:Martina said I’m town so
hmm is this ever s/s

ginngie sure is an interesting short iso considering her total fixation on mastina

I think I'm back here again

VOTE: Ari -shiro

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:01 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 2062, Randomnamechange wrote:what even is the point of this game
does it actually mean anything
all it will lead to is despair
there is no joy to be found in this game
i genuinely cant even be bothered to use my role

WAIT WTF

RANDOM CLAIMED ROLEBLOCKED TOOO?!!!!!

WHY DID I NOT REMEMBER THIS?

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:02 am
by THE MEME MEN
why the fuck would scum roleblock ari's slot twice?!?!

why would they fake two roleblocks on the same target?

I don't understand anything in this game

UNVOTE:

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:04 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 2062, Randomnamechange wrote:what even is the point of this game
does it actually mean anything
all it will lead to is despair
there is no joy to be found in this game
i genuinely cant even be bothered to use my role
In post 6097, Aristophanes wrote:Oh right this is a thing still!

I didn't do anything last night because what's the point?

Also I assume mastina's gladiate would succeed on a 3P as they are not "mafia aligned." Just a hunch tho.

what the fuck

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:06 am
by Jingle
Um...

Can I just point out that Ari claimed to have acted on whatever night that was?

And we should just lynch him?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:07 am
by Nero Cain
meme, what do you think of my theory that there's a scum protective thus one of Vecna, Ari, JJH, Gamma, shoshin? are scum?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:07 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 7314, Aristophanes wrote:That's fine with me. I'm a hider. Flavour is some LOL person.

Hid behind ??? N1, nobody N2 (I forgot to), Kuroi N3, Creature N4 (was blocked), and Meme N5.
NIGHT TWO YOU WERE ROLEBLOCKED AND YOU FUCKING SAY YOU FORGOT TO HERE? YOU CAN SAY YOU WERE ROLEBLOCKED AT THIS POINT FFS

DAMN IT ARI WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DO THIS THING TO ME

So let me get this straight, Ari slot was roleblocked n2 AND n4?!

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:08 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 8043, Nero Cain wrote:meme, what do you think of my theory that there's a scum protective thus one of Vecna, Ari, JJH, Gamma, shoshin? are scum?
I agree there's scum in {Ari, Gamma, Shoshin}.

I don't think it's Vecna at this point

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:09 am
by Jingle
In post 7314, Aristophanes wrote:Hid behind ??? N1, nobody N2 (I forgot to), Kuroi N3, Creature N4 (was blocked), and Meme N5.
Nvm, he claimed no actions until N3.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:10 am
by Nero Cain
Why not Vecna and JJH?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:10 am
by northsidegal
because jjh isn't scum

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:11 am
by THE MEME MEN
I mean the thought occurs

Nihilism is odd-night only maybe?

in which case, Ari's team forgot that random claimed roleblocked?

Like would RC actually let Ari think that Random FORGOT to send a night action a night he received a rb?

HOW. How does ARI GET CONFUSED ABOUT SO MUCH OF HIS ROLE?

gdi

VOTE: Ari -Shiro

-RH