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I have intent as well.
If this flips red I reserve the right to not be called bad by RC when I had a wagon on scum and 2/3rds of day one reads proven right so far.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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my thing is that he has anti buddy equity with everyone in the poe except shos.
{math, ari} - math pushed ari extremely hard on d1, for an extended period of time, and talked about using ari to bop rc. continued pushing him after rc disavowed the wagon.
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{flopz, ari} - both at each others throats early game (pretty much instantly iirc). flopz made a vote on ari d1 that would have been likely to result in his death at the time
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{skitter, ari} - combined mislynch total of 2, tied lowest of alive pairings. this is weaker than the other two given low sample size, but mislynches tend not to happen without scum involvement.
leaves only {shos, ari}
for shos,
{math, shos} - i want to rule this out but its kinda moonlogicky.
other shos pairings i have nothing to rule out.
ari is only scum with shos. shos can be scum with people that aren't ari. so logically, shos is the better lynch.
assuming the solve is {shos, ari}, im more concerned about shos getting undue towncred from the ari scum lynch and endgaming, than vice versa.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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iso diving this game is a goddamn painIn post 8021, teacher wrote:Welcome to the Ari-Trisaudade associative show.
that was a noble effortSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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So as you may remember I asked hito for his Ari/xtomx association reasoning. He answered.
1. a note about everything - this is all D1 information. Hito hasn't been following lately because he was sick. He's good now
2. The first KILL THIS WITH FIAR instance was post 2516. Hito found it extremel bad that xtomx wanted to wait the ari lynch in order to see how RC is going. So it looked like it was a way to put a damper regarding the ari wagon, while avoiding any commitment on an Ari read. Then came 2520 (same page). What did you expect from an RC solve to help you decide about ari? how was that related?
That might have made sense if the leading wagon was RC, but it wasn't - Ari was, and xtomx never mentioned him the entire game thus far. So...hard chainsaw.
Plum posted about that on 2525 (next page).
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xtomx 2516 and the nearby posts seem like he's trying to slow down an ari wagon without actually calling it by name.
Not as full as I expected but well, he IS not a player so..In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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How exactly would shos get “towncred” from an Ari scum flip? If Ari flips red I am just probably gonna votepark shos.In post 8028, Xtoxm wrote:my thing is that he has anti buddy equity with everyone in the poe except shos.
{math, ari} - math pushed ari extremely hard on d1, for an extended period of time, and talked about using ari to bop rc. continued pushing him after rc disavowed the wagon.
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{flopz, ari} - both at each others throats early game (pretty much instantly iirc). flopz made a vote on ari d1 that would have been likely to result in his death at the time
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{skitter, ari} - combined mislynch total of 2, tied lowest of alive pairings. this is weaker than the other two given low sample size, but mislynches tend not to happen without scum involvement.
leaves only {shos, ari}
for shos,
{math, shos} - i want to rule this out but its kinda moonlogicky.
other shos pairings i have nothing to rule out.
ari is only scum with shos. shos can be scum with people that aren't ari. so logically, shos is the better lynch.
assuming the solve is {shos, ari}, im more concerned about shos getting undue towncred from the ari scum lynch and endgaming, than vice versa.
And I agree shos is the better lynch but Ari is still in my pool.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Anyone got anything to add before hammers?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I think this is the only thing being waited on? Someone correct me if I am wrong.In post 8025, Flopz wrote:Wow Teacher, that was a lot more than I expected. I have no qualms with voting for Ari now. Might as well wait for his response to this before finishing him off.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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if ari flips scum, shos is higly likely the next lynch anywayIn post 8028, Xtoxm wrote:ari is only scum with shos. shos can be scum with people that aren't ari. so logically, shos is the better lynch.
assuming the solve is {shos, ari}, im more concerned about shos getting undue towncred from the ari scum lynch and endgaming, than vice versa.Rawr!
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is that it?In post 8032, shos wrote:So as you may remember I asked hito for his Ari/xtomx association reasoning. He answered.
1. a note about everything - this is all D1 information. Hito hasn't been following lately because he was sick. He's good now
2. The first KILL THIS WITH FIAR instance was post 2516. Hito found it extremel bad that xtomx wanted to wait the ari lynch in order to see how RC is going. So it looked like it was a way to put a damper regarding the ari wagon, while avoiding any commitment on an Ari read. Then came 2520 (same page). What did you expect from an RC solve to help you decide about ari? how was that related?
That might have made sense if the leading wagon was RC, but it wasn't - Ari was, and xtomx never mentioned him the entire game thus far. So...hard chainsaw.
Plum posted about that on 2525 (next page).
TLDR:
xtomx 2516 and the nearby posts seem like he's trying to slow down an ari wagon without actually calling it by name.
Not as full as I expected but well, he IS not a player so..
i expected a good chuckle from you trying to case me but this is just pathetic.
rc suggested he may have to replace out, which would have dramatically altered my level of interest in the game.
hence 2516.
and, i feel thats kinda obvious? a number of players, including rc, have mentioned our history
youve brought up that same post like 4 different times now
the other post you reference (2520) wasnt made by meSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i believe thats correct.In post 8036, MathBlade wrote:
I think this is the only thing being waited on? Someone correct me if I am wrong.In post 8025, Flopz wrote:Wow Teacher, that was a lot more than I expected. I have no qualms with voting for Ari now. Might as well wait for his response to this before finishing him off.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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ok good.In post 8033, MathBlade wrote:How exactly would shos get “towncred” from an Ari scum flip? If Ari flips red I am just probably gonna votepark shos.
felt that way with how hard its been to get votes on shos today.
with the recent responses im less concerned now.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'll wait a few more hours for Ari, if no response I'll treat it as him giving up.In post 8036, MathBlade wrote:
I think this is the only thing being waited on? Someone correct me if I am wrong.In post 8025, Flopz wrote:Wow Teacher, that was a lot more than I expected. I have no qualms with voting for Ari now. Might as well wait for his response to this before finishing him off.- shos
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Well it's not my own work so you can keep expecting. Maybe I'll be bored enough in my conference to try and case youIn post 8038, Xtoxm wrote:
is that it?In post 8032, shos wrote:So as you may remember I asked hito for his Ari/xtomx association reasoning. He answered.
1. a note about everything - this is all D1 information. Hito hasn't been following lately because he was sick. He's good now
2. The first KILL THIS WITH FIAR instance was post 2516. Hito found it extremel bad that xtomx wanted to wait the ari lynch in order to see how RC is going. So it looked like it was a way to put a damper regarding the ari wagon, while avoiding any commitment on an Ari read. Then came 2520 (same page). What did you expect from an RC solve to help you decide about ari? how was that related?
That might have made sense if the leading wagon was RC, but it wasn't - Ari was, and xtomx never mentioned him the entire game thus far. So...hard chainsaw.
Plum posted about that on 2525 (next page).
TLDR:
xtomx 2516 and the nearby posts seem like he's trying to slow down an ari wagon without actually calling it by name.
Not as full as I expected but well, he IS not a player so..
i expected a good chuckle from you trying to case me but this is just pathetic.
rc suggested he may have to replace out, which would have dramatically altered my level of interest in the game.
hence 2516.
and, i feel thats kinda obvious? a number of players, including rc, have mentioned our history
youve brought up that same post like 4 different times now
the other post you reference (2520) wasnt made by me
Can I ask everyone why Ari scum flip points to me scum?In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Plum wouldn’t vote Ari and just said Fuck this and quit posting a bitIn post 3170, MathBlade wrote:
No Raybells. It doesn’t. I may be the only person who trusts you right now.In post 3168, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's on Teacher. I don't think outing this did town any good. I also think it's a lot more likely than you do that scum no killed: me getting a guilty completely clusterfucks scum gameplan of leaving me alive.
I am very certain scum would try to kill. Let’s call it a hunch k?
What do you make of Plum being willing to vote TW but not Ari yesterday?
Then when TW became a wagon Plum was all Fuck this and voted TW
Can’t find the exact post but yeah you + Ari makes sense because of Plum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don’t see how. 2.8 is anti shos+Ari seems to support that theoryIn post 4890, implosion wrote:Spoiler: an elk contemplating eternity
Flopz has been prodded; as he is V/LA I will not immediately replace him if the prod is not answered.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Why does this not make sense?In post 4890, implosion wrote:Spoiler: an elk contemplating eternity
Flopz has been prodded; as he is V/LA I will not immediately replace him if the prod is not answered.
Also I'm pretty fearing that we're lining up my lynch regardless of the flip, and in that case, if Ari is town then we're fucked.In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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