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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:13 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 8047, Nero Cain wrote:Why not Vecna and JJH?
actually I was gonna say I don't think JJH is scum protective, I think he's killing scum with day actions (i.e. no night action so that he can do the kill on certain nights if necessary). So he can be scum but not scum protective imo

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:13 am
by Jingle
In post 7996, THE MEME MEN wrote:Jingle is a he -rh
FWIW, this is true, but I could care less how anyone addresses me.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:15 am
by Jingle
In post 8050, THE MEME MEN wrote:
In post 8047, Nero Cain wrote:Why not Vecna and JJH?
actually I was gonna say I don't think JJH is scum protective, I think he's killing scum with day actions (i.e. no night action so that he can do the kill on certain nights if necessary). So he can be scum but not scum protective imo

-rh
There's already 2 flipped scum with day actions only. jj's prolly just town.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:19 am
by Nero Cain
Why does scum HAVE to have a cap of 2 day actions?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:23 am
by Jingle
They don't. Saying someone has additional scum equity because they only have day actions at this point is pretty meh though.

JJ is probably town because I doubt that the varsoon/jj/mastina/NR bit was ALL scum players.

TBF, I'm also convinced you're right on the protective=scum front. It's Ari. And possibly Vec. And possibly also Shoshin.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:24 am
by Nero Cain
I have a question, was Nico ever a wagon before she was gultied? I ask b/c JJH use of his role on the day that Nico was for sure getting lynched is EZ and low impact. I'd be much more impressed if he used it on a day when it wasn't sure that Nico was getting lynched.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:26 am
by Jingle
Nico was a counterwagon to me and Varsoon the day Varsoon did his whole thang.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:27 am
by Jingle
And jj using his role then was about him proving he had it, not about getting any real use out of it.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:29 am
by Nero Cain
What was the point in proving it again?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:35 am
by Jingle
In post 4638, Jingle wrote:
Jingle
: (9)
Nero Cain
,
Creature
,
JJH
,
Jingle
, Lady Angel, Aristophanes,
Nico Robin
, Vecna,
Varsoon

Varsoon
: (8)
Northsidegal
,
Mastina
,
Creature
,
Skygazer
,
Chickadee
,
Jingle
,
Meme Men
,
Nico Robin

Nicorobin
: (8) Lady Angel,
Whemestar
,
JJH
,
Invisibility
,
Jingle
,
Varsoon
, Aristophanes, Vecna

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:36 am
by Jingle
In post 8058, Nero Cain wrote:What was the point in proving it again?
If he was lying we lynched him? Like, there is no protown use of his role, but at least we know for sure it exists now.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:40 am
by Nero Cain
What if there's no pr-town use of his role b/c he's scum?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:41 am
by Nero Cain
it was also pretty clear that I shot Wheme. Like I had specifically told meme not to target Wheme. What if trying to lynch a guy with bullets seems like it would make sense from scum.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:00 am
by Jingle
In post 8061, Nero Cain wrote:What if there's no pr-town use of his role b/c he's scum?
I mean... 0 utility roles are a thing. Like Chick's. I'm not saying his role makes him town. I'm saying that him having his claimed role means that he isn't necessarily scum. He's one of the very few players that are best sorted by play.

JJ can't be scum if both Ari and Vec are. For Vec to be town, there has to be a scum redirection role. For Ari to be town... Well. JJ probably isn't a scum redirection role because he has a complicated day role. Additionally, he has complicated interactions with 3 of the 4 flipped scum. I'm fairly confident he's town for now.
In post 8062, Nero Cain wrote:it was also pretty clear that I shot Wheme. Like I had specifically told meme not to target Wheme. What if trying to lynch a guy with bullets seems like it would make sense from scum.
I think you're pretty much conftown. There's a very, very small chance you're 3rd party, but that means Shoshin is necessarily scum, and I don't think she is. Someone disagreeing doesn't necessarily mean they're scum.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:00 am
by sheepsaysmeep
In post 8024, Jingle wrote:Vecna claims he was told he was poisoned.
that was porkens's message

idk if i forgot to say this when i learned this oops

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:01 am
by sheepsaysmeep
im not majing ari if i vote him right

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:02 am
by Jingle
I think he's l-1, but I also support hammering.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:02 am
by THE MEME MEN
Yes, we both agree on ari and I intend to vote.
I think he's at L-1? So, I intend to vote by Friday at latest ... just in case people still have more to discuss.
@nero I personally think vecna and GE are probably town but the others probably aren't in jjh/shoshin/ari.

What is mahjing.


-Sora/LH

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:03 am
by Jingle
Like... I literally see no reason to continue this day phase.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:03 am
by Jingle
shorthand for majority I presume.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:03 am
by Nero Cain
how does a babysitter work btw?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:04 am
by THE MEME MEN
In post 7979, RadiantCowbells wrote:
A Story Revisited


Votecount 6.320:

Aristophanes (6): Northsidegal, Gamma Emerald, Jingle, Shiro, jjh927, Lady Angel
Jingle (2): Aristophanes, Vecna
jjh927 (1): Nero Cain
Sheepsaysmeep (0):
Northsidegal (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Nero Cain (0):
The Meme Men (0):
Lady Angel: (0):
Creature (0):
Vecna (0):
Profii (0):
Shoshin (0):

Not Voting: Adelbert Steiner, Shoshin, Creature, Sora, Sheepsaysmeep

With 13 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2018-12-23 19:00:00). - its christmas, going to set deadline before then resume after.

prods
In post 7999, profii wrote:ok I'll go with it

VOTE: Jingle

tell me if Jingle flips scum where does that send us mechanically next? is there an obvious suspect coming up next>?
I unvoted and revoted but Ari is currently at L-2 with Profii changing to Jingle

-RH

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:04 am
by THE MEME MEN
I will let jingle answer that as I have messed up radically on the babysitter and hider workings earlier, lol.

-LH

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:07 am
by THE MEME MEN
Nero are you leashed tonight? Theoretically it doesn't matter with the nihilist still alive right and I'm not insisting on it tbh

but if there was some plan with the babysitter I guess that should either be confirmed or denied or something maybe in the case Ari flips rber

maybe if Ari flips {not rber} you just shoot whoever

and if Ari flips rber you shoot Gamma and Gamma does a babysit on top fos?

-rh

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:08 am
by Nero Cain
I wasn't planning on shooting, no.