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Oh hey! Didn't realize the same people pushed all the end of day wagons. Except, JSU was pretty pissed off about having to push that Nacho wagon.

Tammy, stop derailing my wagon.

In post 8148, AngryPidgeon wrote:Can you explain to me why JSU is town for their play?

The Bro post that is so often mentioned is certainly a significant part of it. It has been said that the emotions aren't very alignment-relevant but imo they pretty clearly are, and think it's unlikely faked.

Also, if you're town then they're probably the only reason you haven't been lynched yet, so there's that.

I also thought that the way their claim matched up with previous remarks on their role in a 'not perfect but makes total sense' way, is something very likely to come from town and not very likely from scum.

In post 8165, penguin_alien wrote:My understanding is that your stance is that RG is 1v1-ing you from yesterday. Why are you trying to derail that supposed 1v1 onto me?

That was Ceph, not me. I think I pretty clearly indicated the opposite.

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All I can say is that we're town. I understand that we're one of the few not conf/semi-conf town remaining and hey, I'd probably be suspecting us too! (I still think I'd probably see how some of my posts were very likely town-me, but there could easily be bias factoring into that and there's no way I wouldn't be paranoid).

What I do know though, is that lynching us will result in town's loss, and it would be negligent of me to not at least try and change this. I have no idea how to do this. I've already been more crazy than I'm comfortable with this game (I'm sorry to everyone for that, especially Ceph) so I'm not going to do what has probably become my signature DV-approaches-lynch freak-out. I can't change our role to an innocent child instantaneously and confirm ourselves as town. My plan at the moment (I'm really just making this up as I go along) is to just keep talking and hope that in doing so, maybe something will click. I don't know.

I don't know how to make people townread me in a way that's not exactly what I'd do as scum (and even the success rate of that isn't terribly great), but if I were to try, I'd say to look at my posts (I don't know how Ceph's posting here compares to his town or scum play so I'm going to be totally self-consumed for this post). I do think that I have been pretty typical of town-me here, and very unlike me as scum. I don't think anyone can argue that I haven't been completely all-over-the-place here, and while I'm certainly not proud of this fact, I think it is completely unlike me as scum. While I do try to replicate my town meta as scum, I don't think I would be able to (nor would I actually want to) replicate all-over-the-place-ness to the extent that I've been all-over-the-place (sorry I can't think of a better word right now) here. There are probably other things, but this is what first comes to my mind and I think it's probably the most key difference. I'm not here all that often nowadays, but I'm happy to talk with anyone that wants to and whatever else I guess.

-DV

And yeah! LYNCH PA OR RG OR BASICALLY ANYONE BUT US!!!

OH not paying attention is not paying attention.

four to lynch. so one of RG and FH is almost definitely scum.

OKAY.

I'll try to be back some time tonight.

AngryPidgeon, what is your read on Penguin at this point?

Desp and I haven't connected in a while, and I'm about to head to Europe on vacation. Once we connect, we're dropping our vote.

I'm feeling ridiculously demotivated in this game. Can I have 24 hours to get my he'd back in this.

In post 8180, CarbonFiber wrote:AngryPidgeon, what is your read on Penguin at this point?

Any answer I give to this is going to involve PoE for the most part. And thats all going to come down to hypothetical teams probably?

But I really don't have a read on her either way.

In post 8177, The Fox and the Hound wrote:I also thought that the way their claim matched up with previous remarks on their role in a 'not perfect but makes total sense' way, is something very likely to come from town and not very likely from scum.

Can you expand on this? I have no idea what you are referencing.

In post 8177, The Fox and the Hound wrote:What I do know though, is that lynching us will result in town's loss, and it would be negligent of me to not at least try and change this. I have no idea how to do this. I've already been more crazy than I'm comfortable with this game (I'm sorry to everyone for that, especially Ceph) so I'm not going to do what has probably become my signature DV-approaches-lynch freak-out. I can't change our role to an innocent child instantaneously and confirm ourselves as town. My plan at the moment (I'm really just making this up as I go along) is to just keep talking and hope that in doing so, maybe something will click. I don't know.

This is some really tasty AtE.

So you guys think PA/RG/ and who would you speculate is scum slot 3? Supposedly you think BRO is still town. CF?

:/ :\ :/

I'm pretty concerned about Tammy/JSU/{RG/Fox} being a team, but its pretty much GG if that is the case so I won't stress too hard about it.

In post 8165, penguin_alien wrote:I'm leaning F&H right now, but I don't want to vote lest scum go nuts if I'm wrong. Stupid XyLo games.

This is purely just because of Fox saying something about trying to figure out how they could both be town? Explain why you think thats scummy plz.

If Tammy and JSU are scum its almost defo with Fox though.

In post 8184, AngryPidgeon wrote:
So you guys think PA/RG/ and who would you speculate is scum slot 3? Supposedly you think BRO is still town. CF?

DV thinks that, I'm not sure I do. I could see any non Tammy player being the third, but I'll probably try to effort and give an opinion on it if today looks like it has a chance of going right, since I'll probably die tonight?

One idea I had was to just lynch Penguin today and choose between Fox and RG tomorrow.

I don't see any point to that. One of Fox/RG is scum unless IDK who the scum team could possibly be to have not ended this by now.

PA is being useless though and that is frustrating.

Because it is harder to decide between Fox/RG than it is to get a solid read on PA as scum.

I guess I don't understand why anyone is sure that PA is scum. Actually I understand why people are there, I just vehemently disagree with the PoE that got them there.

Is more time really going to help, though? I'd rather get it over with one way or the other.

Tammy: You thought you were going to die over the night. Why were you trying to get yourself lynched since the net effect would still be the same (but with a wasted lynch?)

Okay, do some POE yourself then. What is bugging me is that you are keeping every option open. You still think there is a chance Tammy is scum after all the stuff that happened in this game, and you are still considering JSU as scum although this one is a little more reasonable. Both of them are as good as conftown to me. I just wish I could feel that way about one other player and it would be game solved.

I do think Penguin is the second scum even without POE. If nothing else, the way she hopped onto the Magenta wagon felt scummy when viewed from the knowledge that Magenta is town. I don't even know how she developed suspicion of Magenta other than by seeing that Magenta was under pressure. She agreed with it, let herself be gracefully persuaded and then voted when asked.

In post 8194, The Fox and the Hound wrote:Is more time really going to help, though? I'd rather get it over with one way or the other.

I agree. I actually prefer not to drag this out for five more days till deadline. I'm just waiting for JSU to sync up, for Tammy to get back into the game and Penguin to do something other than post just to say that she won't vote because "scum might hammer."

In post 8196, CarbonFiber wrote:What is bugging me is that you are keeping every option open.

And? This isn't bugging you about Tammy. I'll waffle if I wanna. I'll leave my friends behind.

I've felt demotivated ever since Katsuki flipped town and the site outage just sort of made that even worse since I actually forgot things that happened on top of that. The magenta mislynch just got us a ticket to lylo and I don't have anyone that I'd be willing to bet money on being town right now. And the odds of winning this look really abysmal and I expect to die tonight even if we do lynch correctly Today.

You are calling people conftown and.. ok? Im the only conftown in the thread unless you want to tell me JSU is scum with me and {RG/Fox}.

Forgive me for not seeing shit from your perspective when you have JSU as more town than me (wtf).