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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:02 am
by Varsoon
It's also a weakness of design that it allowed for a no lynch.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:03 am
by Varsoon
That alone should have indicated that it wasn't a town role in the slightest.
Which was the logic I was trying to present as a grounds for bussing but eh

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:04 am
by Varsoon
'cus a town role that can only gladiate townies but allows for a no lynch is basically a public cop that gets rid of mislynches.
Couple that with other town roles like vig, etc. and town's pretty much incapable of losing.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:29 am
by NicoRobin
>.>

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:32 am
by NicoRobin
Okay then, continue clearing people based off role alone. May it come back to bite you hard in the end.

Next time I am scum with mastina, I won't say anything and will use the fact that you can't be reasoned with to enjoy our free win.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:32 am
by NicoRobin
Merry Christmas

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:46 am
by Gamma Emerald
Btw if mastina tries wave meta clout as a reason to trust her read on me I’m auto-killing it

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:10 am
by jjh927
Firebringer just summed this up
In post 8204, Firebringer wrote:This was by far the worst scum strategy I have seen

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:13 am
by jjh927
Are you seriously telling me that this was the intended outcome of Mastina claiming? It's more forgivable as a mistake from not realising how that ability would be used

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:18 am
by Varsoon
In post 4833, Vecna wrote:So tell me, you guys really believing that was a scripted varsoon bussing theatrical performance? Because it seemed to me like it was a pissed off varsoon trying to desperately get rid of a powerfull town PR.

Dude deserves an Emmy if he is scum with Mastina here.
Give me my Emmy tho

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:19 am
by Varsoon
I think the intention was that mastina would basically control the game and because town was 'deciding' who would be gladiated, she could rinse her hands of responsibility.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:23 am
by jjh927
Well that's never gonna work

The strongest points against her were that she was dragging her feet and creating apathy and that she was essentially refusing certain gladiate options

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:24 am
by Varsoon
Exactly.
I think that we played it entirely wrong.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:25 am
by jjh927
Well yeah the right way to play that is to play that role like a goon unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure you can win a gladiate

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:26 am
by jjh927
It's just too protown to claim that to expect to win after doing it as scum imo

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:27 am
by jjh927
Did scum ever try to kill me

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:28 am
by Varsoon
It puts far far too much attention on yourself as scum.
In a closed setup, doing that is a huge gamble.
It basically put the rest of the team into either having to hard bus or to be complicit.
It wasn't fantastic, no.
It could've played out better but probably not with this player arrangement ever.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:37 am
by Vecna
In post 8234, Varsoon wrote:
In post 4833, Vecna wrote:So tell me, you guys really believing that was a scripted varsoon bussing theatrical performance? Because it seemed to me like it was a pissed off varsoon trying to desperately get rid of a powerfull town PR.

Dude deserves an Emmy if he is scum with Mastina here.
Give me my Emmy tho
Im guessing it was a pissed off scum Varsoon instead trying to get rid of a teammate with a terrible idea :good:

No faked emotions there, no oscar im afraid!

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:47 am
by jjh927
In post 8182, mastina wrote:If you're conftowning the players you intended to nightkill anyway...then you're depriving the town of lynches, WHILE killing the players you wanted dead anyway. It's literally the town doing your work for you.
This is just so unequivocally wrong

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:49 am
by Varsoon
:P
I was just going for a hardbus and actually hoping we wouldn't have majority votes and day would end on a nolynch.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:52 am
by jjh927
I'm kinda disappointed I didn't see through the obvious mod provided fakeclaim at the end but oh well

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:54 am
by jjh927
In post 8240, jjh927 wrote:Did scum ever try to kill me

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:58 am
by Varsoon
Didn't the mod publish the PTs?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:00 am
by Varsoon
You'll just have to wait for RC to make the PTs public ;P

Or just publish actions into the game thread

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:00 am
by jjh927
But that's 48 hours