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Feysal wrote:In particular, I see two of our distinguished guests accusing each other at the drop of a hat. I have encountered interpersonal feuds before, and I have to wonder if this could be an instance of such. The feud, if indeed it is one, would be something I would be weary to draw conclusions from.

Feysal wrote:After a moderate amount of reading, I am once more up to date on recent events. At this time, many of my reads are still in their formative stages, however I do have some observations from the past three pages worth commenting on.

On the topic of vezokpiraka, his joking approach to the game, posting in a purposely heinous accent, strikes me as carefree and therefore townish. I have understood that some of our esteemed members find him suspicious for lack of substance in his posts, and for his attack on kr0b. However, has it not been said repeatedly that not contributing is typical of him as town, by the same people who find him suspicious no less? I am vaguely disturbed by the assertion that he should be policy lynched as town and suspected as scum for the exact same behaviour. I have yet to make a more detailed background check on TheLonging to see what his stance on policy lynches has been on past games, but for now I can say that I do not like this type of damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't argumentation.

As for kr0b, I am not certain I understand the basis of the case on him. My own read on him is undecided, though I was pleased by his responses to the points raised against him. Particularly what he said about the intricacies of the style of speech we have adopted making it harder to draw conclusions from the way people express their thoughts mirrorred my own thoughts perfectly. As a matter of fact, I imagined none other than Oscar Wilde, who was known for being witty with his words, when reading again his response to imaginality regarding his use of the word perhaps. I do believe that his choice of words is no more than a red herring, and dwelling on that subject is fruitless.

I admit that some of the points raised against kr0b later on have merit, but I am still confused as to the cause of imaginality's original vote on him.

Voting first and providing reasons later does not sound like a good way of seeking villains in our midst, particularly when the best of those reasons only occurred after the original vote. This makes imaginality look suspect in my eyes, though I am somewhat appeased by his apparent willingness to look in other directions.

Finally, I find that in the recent back-to-back between kpaca and Twistedspoon, it is decidedly kpaca who comes on top.

inHimshallibe wrote:The case on Toast is a matter of process of elimination. Given the role evidence present, I will risk the game on Sirs V. Piraka, Imaginality, and Jilynne. Using basic assumptions about making rulesets, I feel it is HIGHLY likely there are three Villains still present in this establishment. As such, I can further eliminate myself. What remains is the confidence in my townreads of A. Vox and Hoppster. Aurorus Vox, PhD continues to provide content and analysis, while my read of Sir Hoppster was based on a Day 1 town v. town read between himself and Twistedspoon, Esq.

inHimshallibe wrote:Meh, that wasn't the complete Feysal case. Also, since they're one-liners, I figure they'll be easy to respond to.

But, tell me... why are you tearing down my Feysal case? Uh oh.

ToastyToast wrote:

inHimshallibe wrote:Meh, that wasn't the complete Feysal case. Also, since they're one-liners, I figure they'll be easy to respond to.

But, tell me... why are you tearing down my Feysal case? Uh oh.

One line saying "your case on Feysal isn't good" is hardly tearing it down. I'm not buying it and as such, you'll need more than that.

Feysal wrote:Three days have passed without a post from me, and it is high time I remedied that. Again I see remarkably little has happened, though I am hardly in any position to criticize others for it. It is more fruitful to delve into the game anyway, so onwards.

StrangerCoug [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3029555#p3029555]#311[/url] wrote:Sir Feysal, is there a villain suspect you think is stronger than Twistedspoon, Esq. or Sir vezokpiraka? If so, then how does it come about?

At the time you asked this question, my answer would've been no. I had a townish read on Twistedspoon and more of a null on vezokpiraka, but I did not have a suspect I could've presented a case on.

After your inquiry however, I've seen the name of kr0b being mentioned by a fair few individuals. Therefore I took the liberty of examining him more closely, with the intent of solidifying my read on him. And indeed, I see the merit of this case now. I don't fully agree with the case as it was presented by imaginality, but I do see cause for concern.

I never thought that kr0b echoing Apokalyptika's words was very significant as such, but what he was saying then appears to conflict with his later actions. Apparently kr0b wondered why imaginality had singled out StrangerCoug, and with that background it does look peculiar how he singles out kpaca later on for supposedly posting fluff. I would say that kr0b's and kpaca's entries into the game are so similar as to invite comparison between them, but therein lies the problem. If indeed kr0b thought he and kpaca were similar in their manner of posting, what cause would he have to so focus on kpaca, in that post and later on? Particularly when kpaca had only just joined the proceedings, I find that kind of suspicion premature.

There is also the matter that kr0b spoke of fancy words being a convenient disguise for the villains amongst us. I rather liked this from him, since it mirrors my own thinking. In addition, I recognize a risk of misunderstandings arising from needlessly complicated language, which may have been the case with his use of the word perhaps. But looking at kr0b's early posts, I do see a definite lack of substance underneath a surface of pretty words.

Finally, his absence from the thread is long past looking conspicuous. His last post was nearly a week ago, and during that time he has posted in another game. Since this game has only grown by three pages since last Friday it should be possible for kr0b to keep up with ease, particularly when he appears to be able to do it in a more fast-paced game. Finally, according to his profile page, he last accessed the site today. These facts don't look like symptoms of flaking to me, more like avoiding this thread.

Given all this, I feel comfortable enough to

Vote: kr0b

I also see that we have received an extension of one week. I am sure that is very much needed.

inHimshallibe wrote:Hoppster lynch, then?

jilynne1991 wrote:inHimshallibe, stop accusing everyone and please, focus on one person, you're starting to appear scummy, after all those days in believing in you.

jilynne1991 wrote:No, I understand that, but have you tried reading his posts in iso?

ToastyToast wrote:

jilynne1991 wrote:No, I understand that, but have you tried reading his posts in iso?

Yeah, it was my first major reason for suspecting him

vezokpiraka wrote:I think we have to move on with the game. It's stagnating.

ToastyToast wrote:AV or Feysal: Every scum team needs a leader, and leaders like to talk.

inHimshallibe wrote:I just don't see AVox being scum.