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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:44 am
by Junpei
It is cool for scum to have high priest and it is a decent town role. Everyone either may vote both of us or vote neither using the logic of claims.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:45 am
by Timeater
arbitrary*
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:48 am
by Junpei
Question: If only scum would take high priest: why didn't we just mass claim day 1 and lynch high priest? I mean before ANYTHING happened. Immediately first thing out of the gate demand mass claim starting with high priest. And don't go "PP distracted me" because you could still have pointed it out.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:49 am
by Timeater
er alignment*
god I cant post for shit whatever im taking a break
@ junpei - you value logic pretty highly but thats pretty illogical and weak point if you ask me bro.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:51 am
by Hinduragi
Nice Junpei. At least you thought about how you might look fairly town. I like this new, raging you, though. It's like you came out of your shell. You're forgetting almost everything that's happened throughout D1, though.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:52 am
by Hinduragi
↑ Junpei wrote:Question: If only scum would take high priest: why didn't we just mass claim day 1 and lynch high priest? I mean before ANYTHING happened.
Don't worry, Junpei. We'll make sure to do that next time.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:54 am
by Junpei
@timeater: Explain, because my logic is fine. Allow the following presumptions to be made:
- Only scum take High Priest
Now, let it be the case that all roles are known. In such a world, a quickclaim of High Priest day 1 assures a lynch.
Now, let us assume that town may also take High Priest. In such a world, the huge BW reasoning on me being scum is nullified.
Now, let us consider that, given the worlds where town may also take High Priest, that my reasoning was flawed. That picking a role which is perceived as pro-scum as town is scummy.
In such a world, it is safe to assume that flinter is also scummy.
Ergo, in such words, calling me scummy but not flinter based on the same line of logic is a contradiction, as is not demanding a High priest claim when high priest is inherently scum. No matter what world we are in, there is a contradiction.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:56 am
by Hinduragi
See, Timeater, this is why you don't argue with people who like to use logic and are trying to hold in the rage. They don't think straight and they expect you to tell them why they're scum so they can repeat logical fallacies over and over again.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:57 am
by Junpei
My logic is flawless, what are you spouting? Either refute it formally using real arguments outside of axioms which you alone hold, or forever hold your peace.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:58 am
by Fate
Oh right of course baby I never forget my deals
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:59 am
by Fate
Flinters not scum she's a girl and she offerd to vote PP if id lynch junpei today.
She's not double bussing scum
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:00 am
by Hinduragi
I'll just continue to lynch you instead. Kthx.
Oh right of course baby I never forget my deals
The way you said this is really creepy.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:01 am
by Hinduragi
↑ Fate wrote:Flinters not scum she's a girl and she offerd to vote PP if id lynch junpei today.
She's not double bussing scum
LOLLLL
I think I need to try that gambit out when I pull scum.
"Hey, will you vote my buddy if I vote my buddy to help your bandwagon get a lynch?"
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:02 am
by Fate
I haven't read the last two pages, but flinter claimed Vanquisher?
The scum are Junpei+Life drainer (aka Shadow Dancer or. Pv)
Pv is likely since Jun claimed to have made him a GF last night
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:03 am
by flinter
↑ Junpei wrote:@timeater: Explain, because my logic is fine. Allow the following presumptions to be made:
- Only scum take High Priest
Now, let it be the case that all roles are known. In such a world, a quickclaim of High Priest day 1 assures a lynch.
Now, let us assume that town may also take High Priest. In such a world, the huge BW reasoning on me being scum is nullified.
Now, let us consider that, given the worlds where town may also take High Priest, that my reasoning was flawed. That picking a role which is perceived as pro-scum as town is scummy.
In such a world, it is safe to assume that flinter is also scummy.
Ergo, in such words, calling me scummy but not flinter based on the same line of logic is a contradiction, as is not demanding a High priest claim when high priest is inherently scum. No matter what world we are in, there is a contradiction.
I'm sorry, but if you are going to be that childish, what do you expect? "She did it too" has never been a good argument, esspecially considering your early game, and your play around the Pinkie pie wagon, the tunneling on Fate when he lead a wagon on scum pretty much on his own. Even when you voted me you made sure to tell us you that you still thought Fate was scum, regardless of anything that happened.
No sorry Junpei, no matter how much "logic" you throw at this, you are still going to be lynched as the scum you are.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:05 am
by Fate
?
↑ Hinduragi wrote:I'll just continue to lynch you instead. Kthx.
Oh right of course baby I never forget my deals
The way you said this is really creepy.
? I'm not creepy.
GUESS YOU CAN'T READ ME AFTER ALL HEHEHHAHA
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:06 am
by Junpei
I doc'd him Fate, but I understand that you have dyslexia and several other social disorders, so I'll just politely remind you.
pedit:
Okay, fine lynch me, I do not care about other 'scummy things' that I previously did. I want you, timeater (the only coherent person left for me to talk to) to tell me what is wrong with that specific line of logic which I have presented. Do you deny the contradiction in those (fate, hindu at least) inherent in what they are saying? They also are dodging the question and the post.
Please respond, when I get back I'll try to hold discussion with you when you get back while Fate and Hindu circlejerk in thread to hide their circlejerking in scum QT. I don't know who scum is anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were pals.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:09 am
by Hinduragi
I see. Your 2/3 changed to include me again. How convenient.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:12 am
by kiwieagle
I assume Fate would be voting Junpei by now sooo
vote: junpei
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:16 am
by Mist Beauty
Hey guys, I was browsing the thread on my phone, but my shift ends at 12. I have a pretyped post, let me dig it up in a sec. The whole roleclaim idea probably changes things though.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:26 am
by Timeater
idk I might be reading flinter wrong I guess.
@ junpei - the problem with #827 is like "oh, financial crisis eh. well we shoulda just killed off all the bankers a few years ago then we'd never be in this mess" high priest is an inherently scummy role, yes. your premise has been concocted on the basis of anger, strike one. if we follow your premise to its conclusion, which is that fate's/hind's position about priest being autolynch is so absurd that it'd never happen in reality. Well the problem is your completely discounting everything else thats happened to make a small point which you seem to be turning into your Grand Defense, which really isnt that logical and practical ultimately. another thing is that its impractical to massclaim D1 in a game like this. the only situation i could see it happening is if vi cloned herself. and you cant honestly believe thats the only reason they want you lynched? That that is the only material they have to work with? they aren't dodging it, they just see it as kinda ridiculous, like I do.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:29 am
by Timeater
Why didnt you protect me Junpei?
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:29 am
by Hinduragi
Basically sums up exactly why it's a logical fallacy.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:30 am
by Hinduragi
↑ Timeater wrote:Why didnt you protect me Junpei?
More importantly, Mastin
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:42 am
by Fate
↑ kiwieagle wrote:I assume Fate would be voting Junpei by now sooo
vote: junpei
EXCEPTI FUCKING CAN'T
HAVE ANY IDEA WHY?