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I just need you back in here for the sake of my sanity. I'm reading stuff HezLucky is saying. I'm reading stuff Scott Brosius is saying. I'm reading Korlash's "computer algorithm" post. And all of a sudden I feel like I am taking crazy pills.

Hey guys. I'm back. Who are we lynching? Because all this posting is well and good, but we need to be lynching scum, instead of just yapping at each other. Personally I find the people here talk a fair amount but don't do so much.

Korlash 4 - pappums rat, The Mini-Librarian, splitfarvle, HezLucky
vijay2vansandani 2 - Korlash, Yates
HezLucky 1 - PereV
Yates 1 - vijay2vansandani

Tammy, Scott Brosius


With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

(expired on 2012-06-08 15:16:47)

till Day 2 Deadline

If anyone needs a prod, bold the request in thread or send me a PM. Thanks guys

Wait, PV, why are you voting Hez?

↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:Wait, PV, why are you voting Hez?

He is mafia who is attacking a slot he perceived as weak before I replaced into it [as evidenced by his pre-planned attack earlier, which proved he had not even read my post]

↑ HezLucky wrote:

↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:Wait, PV, why are you voting Hez?

He is mafia who is attacking a slot he perceived as weak before I replaced into it [as evidenced by his pre-planned attack earlier, which proved he had not even read my post]

This response is funny for two reasons:

1. Irony. *YOU* calling out someone for not reading? Really? Are you on page 11 yet?
2. Until you have rectified the whole "reading through the entire game" deal, you are FAR more worthless than Shotty was and have no right to call ANYONE mafia until this is done.

But I digress.

↑ Yates wrote:

↑ HezLucky wrote:

↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:Wait, PV, why are you voting Hez?

He is mafia who is attacking a slot he perceived as weak before I replaced into it [as evidenced by his pre-planned attack earlier, which proved he had not even read my post]

This response is funny for two reasons:

1. Irony. *YOU* calling out someone for not reading? Really? Are you on page 11 yet?
2. Until you have rectified the whole "reading through the entire game" deal, you are FAR more worthless than Shotty was and have no right to call ANYONE mafia until this is done.

But I digress.

You're incredibly wrong and, at the same time, basically defending my scumreads. Why?

Have you read the WHOLE game yet?

Korlash's analysis is thoroughly underwhelming, he's not voting anyone (read: he doesnt want to commit to anyone, just like he didnt want to commit with V2V), and I still want his head on a pig pole.

↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:Wait, PV, why are you voting Hez?

VOTE: Korlash

L-1 fellas.

Actually we have 7 days. Hmmmm, I like 834.

VOTE: HezLucky

V2V wrote:Hey guys. I'm back. Who are we lynching? Because all this posting is well and good,

but we need to be lynching scum

, instead of just yapping at each other. Personally I find the people here talk a fair amount but don't do so much.

You want to actually try doing something then? Why was I scum when you voted me, why is Hez scum when you've voted him(Your own shit, not Pere's please)? Are you saying having a wagon equates to being scum?

Rat wrote:Korlash's analysis is thoroughly underwhelming, he's not voting anyone (read: he doesnt want to commit to anyone, just like he didnt want to commit with V2V), and I still want his head on a pig pole.

You're right Rat! here I am, on the verge of death, constantly being called out for 'not commiting to things' and so I, as scum, take it upon myself... to keep doing the same shit... Wow, at least I'm consistent. /rolls eyes

Did you even see my reason for not voting?

Yates wrote:I just need you back in here for the sake of my sanity. I'm reading stuff HezLucky is saying. I'm reading stuff Scott Brosius is saying. I'm reading Korlash's "computer algorithm" post. And all of a sudden I feel like I am taking crazy pills.

Imagine all that, but with a caseless wagon on you and people constantly saying how happy they will be when you're dead. Crazy pills my ass, I'm on crazy pudding at the moment...

I do like how I've hit l-1 Twice now and still no case though... you would think if one existed there wouldn't be a problem in actually, you know, reposting it per my request...

Hez wrote:He is mafia who is attacking a slot he perceived as weak before I replaced into it [as evidenced by his pre-planned attack earlier, which proved he had not even read my post]

I'm surprised you even bothered to read his post what with it being 30 pages into the game and all... bazing!

Hez wrote:You're incredibly wrong and, at the same time, basically defending my scumreads. Why?

He defended your scum reads? how? Seems like you're making shit up again.

↑ vijay2vasandani wrote:Actually we have 7 days. Hmmmm, I like 834.

VOTE: HezLucky

Have you even read my response to that post? I've already shown how he is shit-flinging by proving he DID NOT ACTUALLY READ MY POST and was just usign it to PICK THINGS OUT TO ATTACK.

He defended your scum reads? how? Seems like you're making shit up again.

Sure.

Ever heard of discrediting? I don't believe he is doing this, but it's starting to become ???

But you're just doing the same thing PeregrineV is. And you're both scum.

@HezLucky:

Have. You. Read. The. Whole. Game. Yet?

Hez wrote:Have you even read my response to that post? I've already shown how he is shit-flinging by proving he DID NOT ACTUALLY READ MY POST and was just usign it to PICK THINGS OUT TO ATTACK.

Like you picked things out of my posts? Honestly, what is this game if not 'picking things out to attack'?

Have you even read my response to your attacks on me? My response to your vote post? I get that you haven't read the game, sure. I be talked into understanding that. but you're sitting here arguing that you're trying to be helpful and play the game yet are IGNORING important game relevant things like the person you are voting responding to your vote.

Hez wrote:Sure.

Ever heard of discrediting?

I don't believe he is doing this

, but it's starting to become ???

What are you talking about? You accused him of defending your scum reads in your last post, now you're saying you don't believe he is doing it? Why are you accusing him of shit that you don't believe he is actually doing?

And how can he discredit you? you have no credibility to begin with. You haven't read the game and you aren't 'actually' playing at the moment since you're ignoring everything that's important. You need to have credibility before someone can take that away mate.

Korlash - Who do you suspect? I mean I skimmed the analysis stuff, but it really didn't tell me anything.

↑ Korlash wrote:

Hez wrote:Sure.

Ever heard of discrediting?

I don't believe he is doing this

, but it's starting to become ???

What are you talking about? You accused him of defending your scum reads in your last post, now you're saying you don't believe he is doing it? Why are you accusing him of shit that you don't believe he is actually doing?

And how can he discredit you? you have no credibility to begin with. You haven't read the game and you aren't 'actually' playing at the moment since you're ignoring everything that's important. You need to have credibility before someone can take that away mate.

This post is so bad.

So, so bad.

Hang faster.

All you are doing here is trying to discredit me (this is the same thing that Yates is doing but he is just a bad player who seems to be fixated on not believing my scumreads and not actually scumhunting -_-. I've already given my reads. Yates is a town read, hence I don't believe he is doing this on purpose. Misrep me more, asshole.

Tammy wrote:Korlash - Who do you suspect? I mean I skimmed the analysis stuff, but it really didn't tell me anything.

Hez, V2V, or Split. My analysis be far off due to lack of information but they ranked the highest.

Hez is pushing my lynch while both refusing to catch up (which gives him a possible out once I flip) and ignoring my 'defense' to his case. (Stalling till deadline forces my lynch) Drmy's votes match up to what I think scum would have done, and while I don't like how much Ben ignored him all day, the fact he seemed to know shit about him the rest of us didn't kinda makes me think they talked during confirmation. (unless someone can show me somewhere Ben might have heard this before he said it or proof the scum couldn't talk beforehand)
[On a personal note, Hez's post he did before he voted me held some things I like to do as scum in that same situation so while it means jack shit as evidence, it certainly makes me think twice about him]

V2V's play isn't what I would call outright scummy, but he certainly hasn't been playing town either. He has the STRONGEST Ben links as he was both someone Ben defended AND attacked but never actually pushed. Out of the three I would like to keep him around the most, but I also recognize his flip would be the most important due to his 'claim' and his 'wagon'. I wouldn't vote him until I ISOed him.

Split is the only player to both Vote like scum AND have Ben Links. (He is the person Ben attacked the most, yet like V2V Ben only 'kept him around' and never 'pushed a real attack on him') His flip could be as important as V2V's since he had an early wagon as well, and like Hez, he is pushing my lynch with pretty much shit reasons. (Split at least took the time to respond to me, so at the very least he doesn't appear to be stalling like Hez does.)

Sadly Tammy, with your unvote and virtually no progress recently I have to put you at number 4. Only the scum know I'm about to flip town, so the unvote (from my point of view) looks like possible scum trying to distance from the damage that my flip will cause. [For personal reasons my Jester town read was wiped out a while ago but I liked you enough not to mention it. Just lossing my town read didn't necessarily make you scum so unless you did something, I didn't see the need to say anything.]

Your comments about how you like Hez but failure to call him out for NOT going into detail about the Ben links when asked, and the speed at which you unvoted (as in, you didn't do it immediately but waited) makes it harder for me to buy the whole "I don't like leaving people at L-1" blah blah blah.

I like Yates, Pere, and Librarian for their convictions, I like Scott for his stupidity regarding the V2V claim. Rat has no scum motivation for being this ignorant on my wagon, so don't let him be the scums scapegoat tomorrow.

That's my stance.

I'll get to my ISO's either tomorrow or the next day (I have Friday off). We really should lynch one of these three today for the best chance of lynching scum. If anyone legitimately thinks there is even a remote chance I'll flip scum at this point... Well... Whatever... You can explain to me how any scum has even been at L-1 twice this late in the game (past RVS and early day one) without ANYONE posting a case. NO ONE CARES ABOUT PROVING ME SCUM. NO ONE.

You consider exactly how many people in this game are 'suspicious' of me and it's fucking ridiculous to think the odds of me flipping scum are at all good.

Hez wrote:This post is so bad.

So, so bad.

Hang faster.

I would but you seemed to have failed to tie this knot... Hard to hang from a rope that isn't tied you know... You should do something about that. You know, be productive.

Hez wrote:All you are doing here is trying to discredit me (this is the same thing that Yates is doing but he is just a bad player who seems to be fixated on not believing my scumreads and not actually scumhunting -_-. I've already given my reads. Yates is a town read, hence I don't believe he is doing this on purpose. Misrep me more, asshole.

Sure, I'll discredit you. You're a worthless and pathetic player with no skill, integrity, or intellect. No one in their right mind should listen to you since you're borderline trolling at this point. It's my advice your slot should either be lynched (since the odds of it being scum is fairly high) or you should be forced replaced as soon as possible before you're allowed to turn this game to shit. I'd also advise no one ever let you replace into a game again since you take that as an excuse to upset it.

You say you have a town read of yates, so him doing something isn't scummy. But since you have a scum read of me, me doing the same thing is scummy. This is situational scumminess which is proof you're either biased like Rat is (You think so much that I'm scum you'll lie, cheat, and steal to see me dead) or you're scum pushing my lynch with whatever you can, whenever you can.

If an act is scummy, it applies to everyone. The fact you think differently is evidence enough you don't deserve to be playing this game. I'll say it again, are you going to respond to my defense against your vote/case or will you continue to ignore it and let everyone's suspicions of me let the lynch run it's course?

If you decide to ignore it and stall, do everyone a favor and stop posting until you've read the game. It takes a lot to be more annoying than me but damn if you can't pull it off.

On a note for my 843:

Korlash wrote:My analysis could be far off due to lack of information but they ranked the highest.

This doesn't mean to imply they are my suspicions solely based on my analysis, but that I take them ranking high into consideration even though my analysis 'could be far off'. I know this has come up before so I want to make it clear now. the paragraph I gave for each should illustrate that my suspicions of them are based on more than my 'math'.

Okay I skimmed that a little, and I know that I haven't paid as much attention as I was or that I expected to and that I should and part of it is that deadline is a bit away. I didn't expect to replace into team mafia last week, and that took up some time. I'm pretty much at a point where I'm caught up there, but yesterday, when I planned to come here and do the things I promised another game went into an unexpected end game mode as it came out of night and it went all drama from there.

I know that sounds like excuses, but it's what I have. Tonight after I finish getting some work done, I'll be able to pay attention here and do the things I said I would. I have noticed Hez hasn't responded and will address that as well.

I didn't unvote you immediately because I didn't realize it. I'd had a bit of vodka that night and had just checked in real quick when I responded to Hez. I unvoted you the next time I checked because it registered that you were at L-1. Meh. You can believe that or not. I'm careful when I'm town...sometimes too careful, and I've never been concerned about a flip when I've been scum. I'm 80% sure that if I were scum, my vote would have stayed where it was, and I'd be trying to prove why you were scum not trying to figure out if you're town. (I only say 80% because I've only played scum a couple of times so I don't actually have a scum meta, but I care a lot less than I do when town.) So, yeah, you can call it blah blah blah all you want; it's something I can't see me doing as scum. :shrug:

I didn't mean to use the 'blah blah blah' to imply anything. i just didn't have time to look up what you said so I substituted that as a generic 'words were spoken' type deal. Sorry if that was taken the wrong way.

And it doesn't matter if I believe you or not, you're the only person on that list who I wouldn't lynch today. At the very least you've earned a pass into tomorrow (plus, you're only number 4... so... rather low all things considered), they haven't. I get that you've been busy elsewhere but we're heading into crunch time (assuming the mod is back in time that is) and after a long v/la weekend we need all the heavy hitters we got.

↑ Korlash wrote:I didn't mean to use the 'blah blah blah' to imply anything. i just didn't have time to look up what you said so I substituted that as a generic 'words were spoken' type deal. Sorry if that was taken the wrong way.

And it doesn't matter if I believe you or not, you're the only person on that list who I wouldn't lynch today. At the very least you've earned a pass into tomorrow (plus, you're only number 4... so... rather low all things considered), they haven't. I get that you've been busy elsewhere but we're heading into crunch time (assuming the mod is back in time that is) and after a long v/la weekend we need all the heavy hitters we got.

Buddy her more.

Apparently a lot of the talk right now is hinging on the fact that I haven't read the full game.

Okay, fine. Will read it tomorrow. But if you expect my strong scumreads to change you are out of your mind. As I saisd in my original catchup post, my reads on these people are SO STRONG that I would have daykilled them after reading the first 10 pages, had I possessed such an ability.