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Yes exactly... whats stopping him telling a scum-mate to say that he got 'confirmed' to them during the night? And that scum mate coming out in day 2 and saying yes, he is who he said he was?

that is the point I am trying to make, that you are not getting.

Jason, is Zdenek Town?

Day 1, Votecount 32

Shadoweh (1) - Kise
JasonT1981 (3) - BT, TheGreatestAmericanHero, Zdenek
SafetyDance (1) - ChannelDelibird

ActionDan (4) - SafetyDance, Ser Arthur Dayne, The Mini-Librarian, JasonT1981

Zdenek (3) - camn, Nostredeus, DeasVail
absta101 (1) - Shadoweh
camn (1) - absta101

TheGreatestAmericanHero (4) - sottyrulez. ActionDan, Plessiezarus, Benmage

Not voting (1):

Cerulean

• With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 6th of February at 5:30pm GMT
  
• Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2013-02-06 13:30:28)
  
• CDB and SafetyDance are V/LA.

Poking CDB since it's been 3 days since he's posted.

↑ jasonT1981 wrote:Yes exactly... whats stopping him telling a scum-mate to say that he got 'confirmed' to them during the night? And that scum mate coming out in day 2 and saying yes, he is who he said he was?

that is the point I am trying to make, that you are not getting.

MY GOD IF THAT actually happened we would COAST to victory. D3 we had have 2 scum lined up.

Lets face it, he confirms it, but the person he targets isn't confirmed.

SO if he targets you, we'll know he's targeting a buddy... that what you getting at?

He's gonna target an obvtown member...

I'm a type of neighborizer.

....


Um.

no.

you claim now if you want me to believe you.

I exist.

Cerulean from X pages ago: I don't recall a recent Scum!ActionDan game but I'm gutting him as scum. He's usually blunt about everything but the way he did it here reeks. Can't say much more unfortunately despite "I didn't like petapan either" (I didn't mention it anywhere before but it was a very slight scum lean).

Though I think I'd rather have Jason - Dan wagons than TGAH - Dan wagons. I honestly haven't read TGAH much lately but I feel like Jason is a much better flip.

cut um uhhh

Claim everything about it then?

EBWOP: can't say much more unfortunately besides "..." ..."

↑ TheGreatestAmericanHero wrote:Jason, is Zdenek Town?

for the most part... I disagree with a lot he says, but disagreeing does not = scum. I was more pointing out how the role could be used as scum, to cover all scanarios. I will challange anything I don't agree with even if that person is townish in my mind.

I had a townish read on McStab, it has slipped slightly on Zden, but is still in the town bracket. I think there are better lynches.

Will check back in later on this evening, hopefully. Going to sit down and enjoy a bottle of Captain Morgans and get well and truely drunk.

I'm Wendell Orlando Blocker.

I'm a 3-shot neighborizer.

I think that's enough of a cc.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zdenek

I would lynch Jason or Dan today.

↑ Konowa wrote:I would lynch Jason or Dan today.

I need to stop this.
Sorry Faraday.

↑ Konowa wrote:I would lynch Jason or Dan today.

It should be Zdenek / Dan wagons.

I'm counter-claiming him.

↑ ActionDan wrote:I'm Wendell Orlando Blocker.

I'm a 3-shot neighborizer.

I think that's enough of a cc.

... but Neighborizer and Friendly Neighbor are that simply happen to have similar names. How the fuck is this a counter-claim of any sort? It's quite possible you both have the roles you claim, it's quite possible that one or both of you is lying. They are different roles.

(Even if they were similar roles, that wouldn't really mean much. I remember that Zar and I had a "non-consecutive RBer" role in ADWD, and on Day 1 we were sceptical when somebody claimed Torturer (a role which includes RBing). The claim was true though, and both slots were town.)

Also, did you breadcrumb this role/name anywhere? (Obviously you're a replacement, but all the same.)

I don't really understand Sterling as Friendly Neighbor Orlando as Neighborizer, by the way. Memory is that Faraday's role-names normally match up a bit better than this, but eh (that's just going on ASOIAF games anyway).

Still think TGAH is the best way to vote.

~ Pless

↑ ActionDan wrote:I'm Wendell Orlando Blocker.

Doesn't he betray the Barksdale orginization?

(also, what Pless said, they are 2 COMPLETELY different roles.)

Also, flavor for the role?

(both Zdenek + Dan)

they share the same function of neighborizing even if one of them reveals the sender as town. I'm playing out-guess the mod here.

↑ ActionDan wrote:they share the same function of neighborizing

No they don't. Again, stop ASSUMING what Friendly Neighbor is, and go actually read it.

↑ Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Doesn't he betray the Barksdale orginization?

He does, yes. Sterling turns out to be stealing money from D'Angelo's crew in the Pit, too.

But if anything, that makes me believe the name-claims , really. (These aren't the names I'd expect Faraday to give out as safe fake-claims, I mean.)

~ Pless

The flavour is that I got shot in the leg and I survived. People can tell that I am Sterling because I got shot and have a limp now.

Dan, I don't get QT with my targets.

Zdenek to answer your Post 767 I don't have a problem with Jason's reaction to you at all. Just because you've called someone town it doesn't mean that you can't question them when you see something that makes you wonder something. His response to yu was completely reasonable, and I'm still nursing my Jason scum read. I actually thought your reaction to him was worse than his to you.

Question about your role. Can you only confirm yourself once? Because Jason is right that you could easily have a scum buddy confirm you. You could also just as easily go damn I sent my confirmation to the guy who just died. I'd like some flavor please. I'm also a bit eh about how you claimed. In GvE when you were gaining votes, you didn't ask if people wanted you to claim, you rather spontaneously claimed. That natural reaction to seeing the wagon on you was one if the things that helped me realize I was wrong about you. I'm not feeling that natural reaction here.

But yeah flavor please.

Dan that goes for you too.

And as pless pointed out, neighborizer and friendly neighbor are two different roles. American revolution and leprechaun mafia used both roles in the same game. And while friendly neighbor is a town confirmable role, neighborizer is not and is just as easily a town role as a scum role.

Can you give more flavor z?

↑ Plessiezarus wrote:

↑ Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Doesn't he betray the Barksdale orginization?

He does, yes. Sterling turns out to be stealing money from D'Angelo's crew in the Pit, too.

But if anything, that makes me believe the name-claims

more

, really. (These aren't the names I'd expect Faraday to give out as safe fake-claims, I mean.)

~ Pless

Yea, true. But the Sterling thing was little and d'angelo let's him off the hook, but the other is kinda major But w/e, still a little inclined to think Faraday is likely to give it as an actual role rather than fake-claim.

flavor is I don't want to get involved so I keep out of trouble so I don't have to lie

neighborizer flavor is that I own a club and invite people into it. (I don't just create separate QTs, they conjoin)

oh it's just a mod message?