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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:28 pm
by DoctorPepper
Crap! Sorry guys, I have had no internet access for THREE whole days.

I am competing as a judge in a local debate tournament and there was no internet at home for some reason. Sorry guys.

Will catch up after the tourney ends. I'll read tomorrow and hopefully post the night after. My apologies.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:30 pm
by morph the cat
In post 825, DoctorPepper wrote:Will catch up after the tourney ends. I'll read tomorrow and hopefully post the night after. My apologies.
No you won't. Put your ass on this thread NOW, deadline is soon.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:35 pm
by 1baldeagle1
In post 825, DoctorPepper wrote:Crap! Sorry guys, I have had no internet access for THREE whole days.

I am competing as a judge in a local debate tournament and there was no internet at home for some reason. Sorry guys.

Will catch up after the tourney ends. I'll read tomorrow and hopefully post the night after. My apologies.
You need to skim quickly as you can. Deadline is in like 15 hours or so.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:36 pm
by Garuda
In post 814, Lost Butterfly wrote:Abductor x 1: More useful to town than scum. Decent, but I prefer the other protective roles on the list.
Auction Detective x 2: Very potluck, but has the potential correctly, gives you a 1/__ chance of getting a guilty if you hit scum (just ask if a player won Cop, Deadline, or NK on N0).
Bodyguard x 2: Useful for town, useless for scum. Good for someone scummy to pick up.
Bulletproof x 2: Useful for town, useless for scum. Good for one of the trusted town bloc players to pick up.
Commuter x 1: Meh since it's one-shot, and is situationally useful for scum.
Coroner x 2: Useful in conjunction with Auction Detective. Otherwise, not that useful.
Doctor x 2: Useful for town, useless for scum.
Federal Reserve Chairman x 1: Meh. Since there are more townies than scum, that means more money is going in town's hands than scum's. But the advantage isn't as meaningful knowing that scum can coordinate more effectively.
Forensic Accountant x 2: Like coroner, useful in tandem with Auction Detective, but there are much better abilities.
Governor x 1: Situationally useful for town, dangerous in the hands of scum.
Love Potion x 1: Really dangerous if scum get it in LYLO.
Market Analyst x 3: Meh (only situationally useful)
Messenger x 2: Mediocre--can be used for gambits in the hands of town or scum.
Ninja x 4: No (duh).
Roleblocker x 3: No because it's a red power, so scum have a secret advantage in bidding for it.
Self-Watch x 1: Meh.
Tailor x 3: No no no.
Tracker x 2: Yes, because in this set-up, it's easy to catch someone useful.
Vote Nullifier x 1: Antitown (but that didn't stop someone from advertising Vote Freeze).
Wage Freeze x 1: It's free money in the hands of town, so better than nothing, but not as powerful as some of the others.
Watcher x 1: Yes (watchers are a broken role).
I feel like we should be advertising only one of Doctor / Abductor and that Doctor should clearly be the one getting top priority.
Auction Detective is a decent pick too just for the potential of guiltying someone with it (even if it is not very big). Maybe not a whole lot of money spent here?
Bodyguard / Bulletproof / Commuter (which functions as a BP in essence) are all must-haves and absolutely need to be advertised. I am curious as to what would happen if we force scum to BG the NK target as it says that the NK fails if one scum team targets another scum.
Wage Freeze could be incredibly useful and at the very least it's worth having up there. FRC is a maybe.
I don't think we should be putting anything towards potentially negative utility stuff like governor unless there's some plan I haven't fully thought about to take these things off the market for scum?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:36 pm
by 1baldeagle1
PlayerAdvertise for N1
VoidedMafia
PeregrineV
Nero Cain
Seanald
guille2015
Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy)
morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt)
BBmolla
Banakai
Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)
uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford)
zMuffinMan
Hermy
ProHawk
Lord MhorkAuction Detective
ZdenekWatcher
1baldeagle1Governor
DoctorPepper
Klick

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:44 pm
by Magua
Vote Count 1.14


With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Hermy (7): Lost Butterfly, Garuda, Pyrotechnics, uʍop ǝpısdn, zMuffinMan, Harakiri, VoidedMafia
VoidedMafia (4): Klick, 1baldeagle1, BBmolla, Hermy
Harakiri (2): Nero Cain, ProHawk
Seanald (1): Lord Mhork
Lord Mhork (1): Zdenek

Not Voting (6): PeregrineV, Seanald, guille2015, Banakai, DoctorPepper, morph the cat

New deadline as of is Wednesday, October 16th at 11:30am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2013-10-16 10:30:00)

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:45 pm
by Zdenek
Vote: Voidedmafia

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:06 pm
by Garuda
This is going to end up like the last game where my slot is tunneling a scumbag at the end of D1 and a bunch of fuckass townies end up mislynching some vaguely scummy looking dude and then I end up dying N1 and raging in the Dead QT, isn't it?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:35 pm
by DoctorPepper
Why is the deadline 15 hours? Didnt this start 3 days ago?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:39 pm
by morph the cat
In post 832, Garuda wrote:This is going to end up like the last game where my slot is tunneling a scumbag at the end of D1 and a bunch of fuckass townies end up mislynching some vaguely scummy looking dude and then I end up dying N1 and raging in the Dead QT, isn't it?
Such haste.

VOTE: Hermy

In post 833, DoctorPepper wrote:Why is the deadline 15 hours? Didnt this start 3 days ago?
It's the invisible hand of the free market. Someone bought and used a deadline shortening ability. We assume someone scum.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:54 pm
by Lord Mhork
VOTE: Hermy

I'm not convinced that I'll be on tomorrow come deadline.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:59 pm
by ProHawk
Not voting Hermy. I'll advertise Doc.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:02 pm
by Garuda
I haven't talked to Nacho yet to confirm but I want to advertise Bulletproof since Hawk's covering Doc.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:04 pm
by 1baldeagle1
PlayerAdvertise for N1
VoidedMafia
PeregrineV
Nero Cain
Seanald
guille2015
Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)Bulletproof
Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy)
morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt)
BBmolla
Banakai
Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)
uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford)
zMuffinMan
Hermy
ProHawkDoctor
Lord MhorkAuction Detective
ZdenekWatcher
1baldeagle1Governor
DoctorPepper
Klick



This is going to be my last post on the computer, which means I won't be able to run the table, can someone please take over for me?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:54 pm
by Pyrotechnics
In post 828, Garuda wrote:
In post 814, Lost Butterfly wrote:Abductor x 1: More useful to town than scum. Decent, but I prefer the other protective roles on the list.
Auction Detective x 2: Very potluck, but has the potential correctly, gives you a 1/__ chance of getting a guilty if you hit scum (just ask if a player won Cop, Deadline, or NK on N0).
Bodyguard x 2: Useful for town, useless for scum. Good for someone scummy to pick up.
Bulletproof x 2: Useful for town, useless for scum. Good for one of the trusted town bloc players to pick up.
Commuter x 1: Meh since it's one-shot, and is situationally useful for scum.
Coroner x 2: Useful in conjunction with Auction Detective. Otherwise, not that useful.
Doctor x 2: Useful for town, useless for scum.
Federal Reserve Chairman x 1: Meh. Since there are more townies than scum, that means more money is going in town's hands than scum's. But the advantage isn't as meaningful knowing that scum can coordinate more effectively.
Forensic Accountant x 2: Like coroner, useful in tandem with Auction Detective, but there are much better abilities.
Governor x 1: Situationally useful for town, dangerous in the hands of scum.
Love Potion x 1: Really dangerous if scum get it in LYLO.
Market Analyst x 3: Meh (only situationally useful)
Messenger x 2: Mediocre--can be used for gambits in the hands of town or scum.
Ninja x 4: No (duh).
Roleblocker x 3: No because it's a red power, so scum have a secret advantage in bidding for it.
Self-Watch x 1: Meh.
Tailor x 3: No no no.
Tracker x 2: Yes, because in this set-up, it's easy to catch someone useful.
Vote Nullifier x 1: Antitown (but that didn't stop someone from advertising Vote Freeze).
Wage Freeze x 1: It's free money in the hands of town, so better than nothing, but not as powerful as some of the others.
Watcher x 1: Yes (watchers are a broken role).
I feel like we should be advertising only one of Doctor / Abductor and that Doctor should clearly be the one getting top priority.
Auction Detective is a decent pick too just for the potential of guiltying someone with it (even if it is not very big). Maybe not a whole lot of money spent here?
Bodyguard / Bulletproof / Commuter (which functions as a BP in essence) are all must-haves and absolutely need to be advertised. I am curious as to what would happen if we force scum to BG the NK target as it says that the NK fails if one scum team targets another scum.
Wage Freeze could be incredibly useful and at the very least it's worth having up there. FRC is a maybe.
I don't think we should be putting anything towards potentially negative utility stuff like governor unless there's some plan I haven't fully thought about to take these things off the market for scum?

Why do you only want to advertise one of abductor/doctor? I think that abductor is useful and if it's not advertised it runs the chance of being removed from the list. What did you think of my suggestion of picking a few we definitely don't want and making sure that those don't get advertised at all so they have a good chance of dropping off the list over the useful ones. Or are you not reading my posts :(

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:04 pm
by Garuda
I'm mostly just afraid of abductor turning into another roleblocker in the hands of scum whereas doctor doesn't really have that drawback (at least this was my thought process on it anyway). And I've already suggested that we don't advertise negative utility stuff + it should be fairly obvious that no townie here should be putting money towards shit like Tailor.
Anyway, I'm going to bed and I expect to see a Hermy scumflip when I wake up once everyone is done putting their ad claims up.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:12 pm
by morph the cat
We'll advertise commuter.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:14 pm
by Harakiri
I'll let Nat decide on what to advertise for tonight, *me pokes him on hydra QT*

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:30 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 785, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 784, Nero Cain wrote:Why are Voided's 749 and 774 so similar?
Why is this statement so generalized?

What, if any, was the point of this question?

Why is it that your recent questions don't really seem to be adding much?
I think you should read your two posts again. They are almost identical.

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:32 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 815, Lost Butterfly wrote:I'm on a bus

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:33 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 817, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Can we just please lynch Voided?

Also, should we try to advertise very good roles for tonight? Also, btw. Here's a table, cuz I'm bored.

PlayerAdvertise for N1
VoidedMafia
PeregrineV
Nero Cain
Seanald
guille2015
Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy)
morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt)
BBmolla
Banakai
Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)
uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford)
zMuffinMan
Hermy
ProHawk
Lord Mhork
Zdenek
1baldeagle1Governor
DoctorPepper
Klick


Please respond ASAP.
governor? really?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:36 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
okay, let me find the other table and we can work out what hasn't been advertised at all yet

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:39 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 657, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:
PlayerAdvertised n0Bid on n0
VoidedMafia
PeregrineVNoneNeighborizer
Nero Cain
Seanald
guille2015
Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)None
Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy)adv 0bid on neigh, didn't get it
morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt)Neighborizer, Doctor, Watcher
BBmolla
Banakai
Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)NeighborizerNeighborizer
uʍop ǝpısdn (confirmed town N and Quilford)Cop and Mediumeverything - didn't win any
zMuffinManNothing
Hermy
ProHawk
Lord MhorkNothingCop, Gravedigger, Medium (won)
Zdenekmedium
1baldeagle1NoneVote freezer and Cop
DoctorPepper
Klick
In post 4, Magua wrote:Abilities Not Yet Auctioned
Abductor x 1
Accountant x 2
Auction Detective x 2
Bodyguard x 2
Bulletproof x 2
Commuter x 1
Coroner x 2
Doctor x 2
Federal Reserve Chairman x 1
Forensic Accountant x 2
Gift Card x 2
Governor x 1
Love Potion x 1
Market Analyst x 3
Messenger x 2
Ninja x 4
Roleblocker x 3
Self-Watch x 1
Tailor x 3
Tracker x 2
Vote Nullifier x 1
Wage Freeze x 1
Watcher x 1

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:39 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
(I added PV in too.)

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:41 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
so morph claim to have already advertised watcher and doctor so we probably don't need to advertise them again