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Well no shit. I knew it before any of you did though, and I pushed for Twomz's lynch because of it. When he started hinting at doctor and no one objected, it was more likely that he was the doc and I unvoted immediately. You can read that part of the history if you want to see my behavior in the context of that knowledge.
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I think it's safe to reveal the rest of my info, because there are no more actions to base counterclaims around.
N1: Twomz->BJ
N2: Vyolynce->no movement
N3: Twito->"no result"
N4: thom->no movement
Thus, my belief that Twito is most likely scum, BJ is marginally possible scum, and thom is cleared.
N1: Twomz->BJ
N2: Vyolynce->no movement
N3: Twito->"no result"
N4: thom->no movement
Thus, my belief that Twito is most likely scum, BJ is marginally possible scum, and thom is cleared.
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fyi, in the future when you see someone act, and the person they acted on DOESN'T DIE, maybe, just maybe they're a Good Role Player? Maybe pushing for their lynch before you know better not such a hot idea....MrBuddyLee wrote:Well no shit. I knew it before any of you did though, and I pushed for Twomz's lynch because of it. When he started hinting at doctor and no one objected, it was more likely that he was the doc and I unvoted immediately. You can read that part of the history if you want to see my behavior in the context of that knowledge.
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I tracked Twomz because of his D1 behavior. In this case since there was no kill, there was a good chance both the killer and doctor targeted the same person. That made it a 50-50 shot that Twomz was the killer. Approximately, since the killer could have targeted someone else entirely and gotten roleblocked.
But taking the attempted BJ kill and 50-50 base chance as an assumption, Twomz was scummyish most of D1, cozying up to elvis and such, so that made me think it was more than likely that Twomz was the killer off the bat.
But taking the attempted BJ kill and 50-50 base chance as an assumption, Twomz was scummyish most of D1, cozying up to elvis and such, so that made me think it was more than likely that Twomz was the killer off the bat.
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wait - why the heck if you got that on Twito yesterday wouldn;t you push HIM harder yesterday. I would think "no reult" would set off some flags, especially if you've already had a "no movement" result.MrBuddyLee wrote:I think it's safe to reveal the rest of my info, because there are no more actions to base counterclaims around.
N1: Twomz->BJ
N2: Vyolynce->no movement
N3: Twito->"no result"
N4: thom->no movement
Thus, my belief that Twito is most likely scum, BJ is marginally possible scum, and thom is cleared.
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Twito's claim is that he can't be night-actioned. Unless I was roleblocked that night, that's essentially what appears to have happened. I had to choose between the following:
a) docs is scum
b) Twito is scum that can't be night-actioned
c) thom is scum
d) the killer went after Twito N1 and was blocked, and BJ could be scum
I leaned strongly towards (a) or (b). I wanted to lynch docs but was willing to lynch Twito as long as docs got it the next day if thom came up innocent.
a) docs is scum
b) Twito is scum that can't be night-actioned
c) thom is scum
d) the killer went after Twito N1 and was blocked, and BJ could be scum
I leaned strongly towards (a) or (b). I wanted to lynch docs but was willing to lynch Twito as long as docs got it the next day if thom came up innocent.
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Bullshit. There could have been plenty of non-scum roles like yours at that time in the game for targetting BJ. Twomz could have been a doc, a roleblocker, a cop etc etc etc no way was it a 50-50 chance. Unless you have a certain result on someone it prooves nothing. Bad play there.In this case since there was no kill, there was a good chance both the killer and doctor targeted the same person. That made it a 50-50 shot that Twomz was the killer.
I don't know whether
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I was suspicious of Twomz to begin with. It was fortunate to catch him in action. I knew he could be another role, but based on his scummy play day one I thought there was a good chance the movement meant he tried to kill BJ.
* Oslo pushed him hard right out of the gate d2
* A kill had been blocked
* He was claiming knowledge of BJ's likely innocence
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Thom thinks it's a terrible defense.
* Oslo pushed him hard right out of the gate d2
Like I said, I wasn't 100% sure, but I definitely thought he was the right person to push. I also watched him carefully for hints to a power role, and when he started talking about BJ on his own, I had a pretty good idea what his role was.Oslo wrote:Today, I'm pretty certain as to the identity of one scum: Twomz, for several reasons... There's a bit more, but those are the chief reasons - Vote: Twomz, since he's a fake - a phony - an impostor.
Definitely scum:
Twomz
* A kill had been blocked
* He was claiming knowledge of BJ's likely innocence
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That can only mean three things--Twomz's visit was a doctor visit or a mason visit, or an attempted kill.Twomz wrote:I'm extremely certain BJ is town.
BJ wrote:What would you like to know?
Viper, FD and Twito go for Twomz. thom considers it.MBL wrote:I guess basically, what's your opinion of Twomz? ... BJ, what's up with Twomz?
It's clear Oslo has a result.Oslo wrote:But I remain absolutely certain about Twomz
But no one knows that meant anything.FD wrote:BURN TWOMZ!
Clearly Twomz is saying he's the doc now.Twomz wrote:Why wouldn’t that look good for BJ? Besides the fact that when you lynch me you’ll see things clearer and he’ll probably be NKed tonight.
Thom thinks it's a terrible defense.
Then, Oslo claims cop with a guilty.MBL wrote:unvote Twomz
I thought there was a chance he was hinting at doctor to cover his scum ass, simulpost with Oslo's cop claim.MBL wrote:I'm still suspicious of Twomz because what he's saying doesn't quite add up with regards to BJ.
MBL wrote:er, i just posted that without reading Oslo's post, one sec.
And then the killscene--Twomz dies as doctor.MBL wrote:The only thing Twomz has going for him at this point in my eyes is BJ, so I'll wait for BJ's vote before acting.
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to trust your results or not. We all know about Twomz and BJ N1, we know Vyolynce was scum, and you can guess by now that I'm vanilla. That leaves N3, where you got "no result" on Twito. That could be an attempt to set him up as the Godfather, or you could be telling the truth. I'm unsure.
Twito, if you don't mind can you claim? Also BJ can you disease claim, and tell us about your restriction? I'm a narcoleptic, so I fall asleep randomly. This means that I have to post half now, half later, with no double posts, as I'm sure you all guessed by now.
Twito, if you don't mind can you claim? Also BJ can you disease claim, and tell us about your restriction? I'm a narcoleptic, so I fall asleep randomly. This means that I have to post half now, half later, with no double posts, as I'm sure you all guessed by now.
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Ha, narcoleptic, that's awesome.
Here's a summary of everyone's disorders and roles:
Twomz - hypochonder doctor
Oslo - capgras cop
Viper - ocd cop
FD - pyromaniac dayvig
MBL - hallucinating tracker
Twito - suicidal half-unnightkillable townie
thom - narcoleptic powerless townie
BJ - tourette's powerless townie
ziliu - narcissist powerless townie
docsalive - phobic powerless townie
elvis - chessmaster scum claimed idiot
vyolynce - computer nerd scum claimed idiot
(possible scum post restrictions)
Here's a summary of everyone's disorders and roles:
Twomz - hypochonder doctor
Oslo - capgras cop
Viper - ocd cop
FD - pyromaniac dayvig
MBL - hallucinating tracker
Twito - suicidal half-unnightkillable townie
thom - narcoleptic powerless townie
BJ - tourette's powerless townie
ziliu - narcissist powerless townie
docsalive - phobic powerless townie
elvis - chessmaster scum claimed idiot
vyolynce - computer nerd scum claimed idiot
(possible scum post restrictions)
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Scum clearly did not know about the existence of pro-town post restrictions and disorders. Elvis and Vyolynce appear to have been caught off guard and made stuff up that stunk to high heaven--they didn't look kosher next to the legit claims that were coming out. Here's a summary of how the claims and fake claims filtered out alongside growing awareness that we had disorders and corresponding restrictions:
First appearance of post restrictions:
Twomz figures it out:
Twito replaces <0, who never posted with a restriction.
This post is getting ridiculously long. I'll continue to reread and create another post if necessary.
First appearance of post restrictions:
MBL, post #5 wrote:My friend's a kangaroo, his name's Mitch. We plan to hop out of here at midnight, who's with me?
ziliu, post #8 wrote:I am the best.
BJ, post #42 wrote:I like tuna
elvis, post #68 wrote:This(BJ on tuna) MUST be a posting restriction.
thom joins the game, his first three posts aren't restricted, then:Twomz, post #69 wrote:I think BJ is just tryin to stir something up... although it may be a posting restriction.
Vyolynce posts and it's clear he doesn't realize thom's half-sentence was a post restriction.thom, post #92 wrote:I'd prefer a non-random kill, but
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Twomz, #111 wrote:how about thom? His tendency to not finish statements or use ending punctuation annoys me... I hope that's not a posting restriction. (ADD?)
Oslo, #113 wrote:Thom's non-finishing-sentences thing is weird at best, but I don't think it's scummy by itself. I wonder if it's actually a restriction, though.
thom, #118 wrote:Quite the opposite to ADD in fact. Sorry about the sentences, there is a reason for it.
Now it's clear that disabilities may be a pro-town indicator.thom, #121 wrote:I don't particularly suspect any of you, except Twomz, if he thinks a disabillity is a sign of scumminess in this game.
Twito replaces <0, who never posted with a restriction.
thom, post #149 wrote:If we hide all night abilites, which we can claim later if need be, but say our disability and any restriction etc that we might have, we can keep the mafia guessing who our power roles are whilst being able to see if anyone makes up a crap disease.
Twomz wrote:The problem with that is that abilities and restrictions will probably be strongly tied with the disability, thus helping the mafia pick out who our powerroles are.
Panic time for scum--gotta come up with a fake disability quick.Twomz, #156 wrote:@ thom: You're right, they are just faking it... So, there's a chance that they have to make up illnesses... I think I may support a mass claim now, as to prevent the scum from having a night to discuss claims. I'll even volunteer to disease claim first.
elvis, post #157 wrote:Pretty sure mass claim on D1 is not a good idea...
Twito, post #194 wrote:holy_thom just gave an idea of possible way to eliminate scum. Suggestion, discussable suggestion. I think that is what town would do: think of ways to get information to eliminate scum. Imo that is a bad suggestion atleast at this point of the game.
Also just though that isn't it pretty easy to fake a dissability which you don't have?vote: elvis
Twito, post #199 wrote:But anyways like I said before: I agree with Osloboditelj about that being absolutely a bad idea. Even discussing it here might infact give scum more information.
Twito drops a hint to his post restriction/disability.Twito, post #202 wrote:*slashes himself into wrist with a spoon*
Elvis drops a hint to her post restriction/disability.Elvis, post #203 wrote:I have to post exactly 25 times per day.
Twito makes the assumption that elvis made up her claim. How does he know scum haven't been given safe claims? He also gives away that he's been thinking about possible fake claims.twito, post #206 wrote:To me it seems you made that one up to look like town. I even though about anyone being able to claim that one when I mentioned in my other post that it's easy to fake a restriction/disability.
Twito, post #206 wrote:And now I'm gonna move forward to most obvious thing I think is wrong with you. And that is simply voting holy_thom.
It looks pretty obvious to me he has a disability/posting restriction. That would mean he is town.
So in the twelve hours between those two posts Twito went from thom is town to we can't trust thom. He also suggested that the existence of a restriction==pro-town and that he was pretty certain that elvis was scum.Twito, post #208 wrote:We can't trust thom either yet but right now elvis_knits seems most scummy to me and I would be supriced if I'm wrong.
This post is getting ridiculously long. I'll continue to reread and create another post if necessary.
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And who came up with the heavily slated disease claim idea? We gave the scum too long to come up with a disease, and now it's no use. Great.Scum clearly did not know about the existence of pro-town post restrictions and disorders. Elvis and Vyolynce appear to have been caught off guard and made stuff up that stunk to high heaven--they didn't look kosher next to the legit claims that were coming out.
Firstthom joins the game, his first three posts aren't restricted, then:
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post was split, just in a less intrusive place. I thought it would be better that way but I got warned by the mod to fall asleep randomly.
I can't see anything wrong with that. I wasn't confirmed, and shouldn't have been treated as such. I take it to be "Thom looks like town, but we can't be sure".So in the twelve hours between those two posts Twito went from thom is town to we can't trust thom
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First of all anyone could have given those same results..MrBuddyLee wrote:I think it's safe to reveal the rest of my info, because there are no more actions to base counterclaims around.
N1: Twomz->BJ
N2: Vyolynce->no movement
N3: Twito->"no result"
N4: thom->no movement
Thus, my belief that Twito is most likely scum, BJ is marginally possible scum, and thom is cleared.
You didn't comment when someone said earlier that we probably don't have any power roles left even though your claiming to have a power role yourself.
Town wouldn't lie about it and I think we can only have one scum left so based on this thom is cleared. Either you are scum or you are town and confirmed him.
The result you say you got on me matches with what I've claimed. Original nightaction won't have an affect on me. But if you would have said that you got result on me I would have known 100% sure that you are scum.
You didn't get movement by Vyolynce and that would lead to someone else doing the killings at that point. Being another member of that mafia. Then again it would be easy to lie about this one too. I think you just tried to pick investigations to claim which might support your behavior.
And everybody knew that Twomz was protecting BJ night1. Still the killer could have hit me so that doesn't certainly clear BJ. But when added to Vyolynce lynch I think BJ is town. And through eliminating process you are clearly lying here aswell.
It seems like you picked investigations to claim which might support your behavior and doesn't close options. Leaving your options open so you can jump on any lynch. Only one you closed was Thom case and that one was pretty cleared already imo. So I also wonder why you investigated him? It also seems you tried to make a juicy claim to protect your scummy behavior. When I think about it there was a tracker role on another game I was in with you before I died there just a while ago. BJ is on that game too if I remember correctly. *checks* Yes both MBL and BJ are/were on that game, the game is: Mafia 50 - The Big Five Oh.
Also there has been 2 cops already. And you are claiming very similar role to cop since you couldn't really claim cop with 2 cleared cops already.
At this point it's very obvious MBL is scum.
Look at those voting records. Look into his behavior. Look into coincidence with his investigations. Look into what I said in this post.
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Did you forget that you just 100% cleared him with your claimed investigation?MBL wrote:thom joins the game, his first three posts aren't restricted, then..
And still you are trying to divert suspicion over him. Thom clearly is town and you won't be able to get him lynched. You should move on..
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This is such horsecrap. I voted for elvis when her lynch was probably not going to happen otherwise due to inactivity and likely impending deadline. I was on Twomz (again, with you) until he breadcrumbed doctor, then I moved to Vyolynce where I was the second vote. The third day I was on BDB where your vote also was, and I was there before you were. Then I switched to Vyo right after you did. The next day, you and I were the first two votes on TDA. Our voting patterns are incredibly similar, and you find me scummy for mine?Twito wrote:At this point it's very obvious MBL is scum. Look at those voting records...
Your pointing at my voting history as a major reason you find me scummy is completely inappropriate. You did it earlier in the game too, in a post I found strange at the time:
MBL wrote:How am I protecting viper when I list him as my #3 suspect?Twito wrote:If and when Viper turns out to be scum I must say that MBLs Viper protection noted.
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