dramonic wrote:I dont think ive properly adapted tp the new site meta of discrediting reasoning in favor of who can bark the loudest.
In my days we took the barker out back and shot it
Im disappointed
hey, dramonic
what did they do with dogs who didn't bark at all?
lush life wrote:I kind of felt very strong town vibes from him after I got over paranoia and here I am not feeling it. like I feel nothing
maybe you should see a doctor about that
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:26 pm
by zMuffinMan
also, tsukasa could be scum. i briefly skimmed through that giant wall a few pages back and didn't like anything i saw
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:06 pm
by Lush Life
In post 823, Jaqen Hghar wrote:A man wonders why Kaze's dissonance is trumping cabd's dissonance by this slot. At the same time, a man can see where you're coming from.
the emotional escalation is what gives me pause. neither of my heads will touch it and borky has a strong meta case which I can sort of see and if given enough time wrt to cabd and my own experience with prohawk I think it can be sorted out.
varsoon wrote:One of Lush Life, GCBC(previously morph), Kise, Pie, and zMuffin is scum, if not more. Just lynch that list and we'll be gold.
was there any actual reason behind this list, btw? it looks like you just chose the top 5 posters outside of kaze and the IC
PoE, Content, Post Count, all that. List is good list. Also, isn't it suspicious most of those folks are on the Pieguyn wagon?
C'mon. :3
@Mollie: I'm really over my head in this game. I wish I wasn't as busy as I am, then I could check site every 30 minutes or faster and keep up. I'm not going to impress you in this one, sadly. D:
@Kaze: I like you, bro. What are your scum reads? I'd like to work with you on them.
Anyone scum-reading me but keeping me at a distance (lookin at you, bubbajackguy) should either commit or drop it. It's too scummy otherwise. No shit my play is bad, I've acknowledged that.
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:17 pm
by Jaqen Hghar
Valar morghulis
; some sooner than others. A man may have but this one day to accomplish all and he doesn't plan to waste it on frivolities. That was a cabd slip as a man said. A lady is great at meta. I'm sure she can find where this has happened before, and there would be no emotional escalation to gain pause from since it has nothing to do with a boy's original other half.
In post 703, Tsukasa wrote:Majiffy. Aren't you just abusing your "I am Majiffy" Status?
That just because you're majiffy you can do anything and everything you want anytime?
Can you stop with that? Just this once? It's messing up my read of you.
This sensation of you being a "VERY VERY dangerous-scum"... It's unbearable.
I enjoy the constant fear having me around elicits from others.
/off
Real title is "Kanbu de Todomatte Sugu Tokeru~ Kyouki no Udongein"
I am sad that you posted a wrongly titled link
/on
In post 785, bubbajack8 wrote:
Tsukasa and Varsoon are about on the same level for me. I'd be more comfortable with a kagami lynch though.
Why do you say that we're almost the same?
Why are we down there?
Based on the stuff you said a page ago... Shouldn't we be null? I'm not sure of the things you have said that time.
Care to explain?
Why am I not on the list?
I've been forgotten again. *cries in the corner more*
Why didn't you add me? Don't you have an opinion of me? Am I scum? Am I town?
Did my actions against you earlier make you ignore me?
Did you ignore me because I hit something?
Did I hit something because you are actually scum?
Tell me.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:07 am
by Tsukasa
In post 826, zMuffinMan wrote:also, tsukasa could be scum. i briefly skimmed through that giant wall a few pages back and didn't like anything i saw
How can you say that?
It's better if you say what you don't like specifically.
Just saying that wouldn't help me, nor anyone.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:08 am
by Tsukasa
P.S.
That quote fail
Whatevs
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:09 am
by Tsukasa
P.S.S.
I'm still waiting on mr. IC to explain the thing about cabd.
I need it to progress my read on cabd and lush life.
In post 763, Mac wrote:Put bork on the line so I can talk about Kagami and how they are not town
I actually agree with this. mac you were starting to worry me for a minute cos we weren't clicking.
anybody who has messiah as town is fucking nuts. they have only made 3 posts and not I am able to get a read off of them and I can probably read them better than any1 else on this site
I'm glad we're starting to click. Life's always smoother when you're #teammollie
What do you make of desp's reach out to both of us then not following through?
mac wrote:I was being pieguy for a second - if you'd read the post, you would've understand
it didn't look like a pie impersonation but sure, whatever
what are your reads outside of pieguy?
In post 464, Mac wrote:pie's reads in #366 are meh but the lushlife one is especially shit about the townslip about IC (ill be fucked if i can remember their name) - kaze in his
TOWN BLOC
because he can't read him? hahahahaha
I can't read muffin usually so he's town!
I'm genuinely struggling to see how you are not getting it as a clear joke about pie's kaze read. just... how?
Outside of pie, I'm scumreading Kagami hard too. Lighter scumreads exist in the form of Katarina, MC, and to an extent, yourself.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:14 am
by zMuffinMan
i didn't read it as related to the previous line, i read it as being a different thought in your catch-up process *shrug*
what don't you like about my posts?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:21 am
by zMuffinMan
tsukasa wrote:How can you say that?
It's better if you say what you don't like specifically.
Just saying that wouldn't help me, nor anyone.
because there's no actual content there. like none, whatsoever. it's a huge wall designed to look like you're doing something when you're not doing anything at all, really. and all the questions you were asking were meaningless. plus the tone of all your commentary feels really off to me
In post 794, bubbajack8 wrote:
The reason I have a town read on Majiffy is slightly because he is attacking me. Last time he did he was town. He also posted a picture he posted as town, last game. I mean it's all easily faked, but it's screams Majiffy town, then again i don't know what Majiffy scum would look like......
I'm pretty much done with replying to Majiffy. At this point we're going in circles and I'm getting aggravated.
You're reading Jiffy as town because he's attacking you and as town he attacks you...
In post 419, Kagami wrote:I'm consulting on top of my normal job this month, so work on that is on hold until further notice. I'm only really using my database to quickly find games of players who don't have wikis.
I like kaze in this game so far, though I admit to not having read the 17 pages especially thoroughly. It looks like almost entirely like fluff. The case on remembrance slot feels like it might be legit.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Rem-slot
kaze, can you summarize case on ufo for me?
I kind of don't like this. She says she hasn't read thouroghly, but still feels the case is legit.
My incomplete assessment of the gamestate is that there are only a few lines of argument that make sense:
Mac on kagami: not enough content, can't deny that
Jaqen on morph: cadb slip
lush on bubba: Various minor tells, listed in 463
morph on Pie: Srs biz early posting nonsense
kise on rem: kise-tsukasa interaction
Of all these, my favorite by far is kise's point, which is both original and accurate. Now, whether or not it's indicative of rem's alignment is a different matter.
Rem is either legit invoking a trust tell (and yes, this is a trust tell), or she's using a false tell to push her towniness.
Hard to say which, but it makes kise very much town to me. Kise's response to my little flip-flop on rem is very nice, imo, making him a fairly strong townread to me.
still pushing trust tell.
In post 580, Kagami wrote:
Cadb says that town doesn't read the mod-post, but scum do. Then says to the group of people, many who seemed to have missed the IC announcement, "but you all missed it, shame on you." This doesn't make sense from town-frame, because if everyone there is town, then this is perfectly consistent with the first statement. He expresses surprise, though,
suggesting that he's observed that scum also have failed to read the mod-post.
Expresses concern that Morph could be scum, but also say that they could be town.
The trust tell remains one of the more solid things that has happened this game, and I like solid things. I really don't care if other people don't like that I'm calling it what it is. The question to my mind is only whether it's being invoked, or exploited.
It's not that I don't like what you're calling it, it's how long you're holding on to it...
In post 802, Kagami wrote:
In the post you quote, I don't call morph town at any point. You're misreading this to make a case.
The bolded to me felt like you had found town motivation. "He expresses surprise, though, suggesting that he's observed that scum also have failed to read the mod-post." That seemed to me like a "he might be town" to me.
In post 822, zMuffinMan wrote:i really dislike the pbpa bubba did in #750. there's so little analysis there; it reads like hollow commentary
As people have asked, I have included more analysis, and commentary. Mainly it's I don't like this because this.
If you want me to go further in depth on something I will.
In post 828, Varsoon wrote:
Anyone scum-reading me but keeping me at a distance (lookin at you, bubbajackguy) should either commit or drop it. It's too scummy otherwise. No shit my play is bad, I've acknowledged that.
This post has some more in depth things about you.
In post 703, Tsukasa wrote:
One thing I hate are trust tells.
It kinda affects gameplay
or something.
And if the person is aware that he's using a trust tell, doesn't that mean that it can easily be faked?
I don't like this at all.
How come? Did I say something awful? Should I stop saying it? Why don't you like me, senpai.
Please, notice me.
Please notice me senpai
The "or something" Why did you say or something, it's almost like sarcasm.
"It affects gameplay or something that makes me look like town"
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:13 am
by Mac
In post 839, zMuffinMan wrote:i didn't read it as related to the previous line, i read it as being a different thought in your catch-up process *shrug*
what don't you like about my posts?
nothing about them stands out particularly. normally you have an opinion where i'll nod in agreement or a post which will bring a new light into my life, but so far I'm not seeing it. the only possibly 'controversial' thing in your iso so to speak is voting morph but as far as i can see, you are riding off this cabd slip bullshit which is quite frankly a poison to the thread - mainly because, you know, it probably wasn't a slip? what are your reads looking like?
In post 713, Mac wrote:morph's posting about the townslip made sense because there's no way scum would all post 3 in a row questioning cabd have an IC they all missed on his reads list. especially if he's hard townreading Lush/maybe kaze. move along, thank you.
Not really sure what you're saying in this post but I'll kindly disagree that GCBC is town.
why?
I'll explain what I mean: I think it's a train of thought brought into the thread. he thinks it's a townslip because bubba missed it and apparently town are less likely to read the posts. but as it turns out, alot of people missed it (and by alot - bubba, Lush and Kaze in the space of three posts) so yeah I think he tossed the theory out of the window there and then. not rocket science.
Evidently you realised Jaqen was IC at the point, yes?
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:23 am
by zMuffinMan
i don't think it was a "slip" - just something i don't see coming from town. i also don't think they've done anything that looks town and i dunno why people are giving town reads to that slot. i think it has something to do with the posting volume or something? i dunno. why do you think that slot is town?
as for reads, ask again later and i might format a list. or, you know, read my posts. either way works
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:24 am
by Lush Life
In post 835, Mac wrote:Hey, sorry, it was like 2am and I was falling asleep. But what are you seeing in Kagami that makes you think town?
In my conversation with mollie or majiffy (I can't remember which it was) I mentioned that I think that probably there was scum within the quick momentum shift onto morph from [pie/kagami/muffin] (but most certainly not all scum) and at the time I was 1) getting weird on muffin and 2) felt that pie was so off his usual play and on morph with such a halfhearted conviction (see #617) that kagami was looking the least bad of the three.
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:36 am
by zMuffinMan
mac wrote:normally you have an opinion where i'll nod in agreement or a post which will bring a new light into my life
what do you mean "normally" btw? because two out of the three games i've played with you, i've been scum. and the other game i don't remember interacting with you much, if at all, nor you commenting on pretty much anything i was doing
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:43 am
by Lush Life
The following are a collection of people that have supported the Bubba scumread and have failed to pony up with a vote;
{Kise, Muffin, pieguy, Kaze, Jaqen, Katarina}
Given my townreads on Muffin and Kaze, and Jaqen's IC status, we are left with;
{Kise, pieguy, Katarina}
If you feel any of these players are possibly scum, you should help me lynch Bubba, as they have explicitly stated support, forcing their hand to bus their buddy.
We can lynch their scumbutts next.
The following are a list of players who have explicitly stated they do not like my case on Bubba without actually refuting anything specific;
{Bubba, Dramonic, Jaqen}
Given Jaqen is an IC and also supports a Bubba scumread I believe we can define him now as the town VI.
Bubba and possibly Dram are scum, along with the aforementioned grouping.
In post 773, bubbajack8 wrote:
Great reads bro. Well done. Fuck off before I start to think you're scum. Because I don't and you're changing my opinion. And I don't like that.
In post 773, bubbajack8 wrote:
i said in the last post where you jumped to conclusions. Where you were assuming things and you said you had "proven it"
No, you just said that I
had
jumped to conclusions. You didn't make note on which conclusions or what the logical jumps were.
In post 821, Jaqen Hghar wrote:The lol of it all is that if Bork thinks Jaqen is the same person as cabd thinks and is known town, he has a history of being very accurate D1... So if that's your belief, why isn't a hydra following the read?
A man also has a history of shitty reaction tests and gambits that ruin games, as well as dayvigging an obvtown early d1.
In post 822, zMuffinMan wrote:i really dislike the pbpa bubba did in #750. there's so little analysis there; it reads like hollow commentary
No you didn't.