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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:37 pm
by Passionate Storm
This isn't a negotiation.

1. You stated your expectation as if it actually occurred.

2. Your analysis on Klingon was shaken after being confronted with facts. Can you bullet point your other reservations?

3. I still would like Jeanne to talk with you on Elyse. I like the fact she disagrees (I feel like I am dominating the hydra). She'd gain more on how to work with people, possibly articulate her Elyse read. Doubly so if I disagree on Elyse.

4. Reading 716 now.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:43 pm
by Garmr
Spifflop wrote:Starting to think EE is a Klingon scumbuddy.

~Spiffy

That would explain a couple of things.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:43 pm
by Garmr
Well pace wise.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:44 pm
by Passionate Storm
1) Why would you know that I would feel you were like me? Are you artificially emulating me?

2) This doesn't respond to the point I raised.

3) Your theory sucks. You need to stop theory crafting and just explain why something is scummy until you have played awhile. My most successful self wagon did not come until years in.

4) Your wagon hopping theory is wrong.

5) I am seeing plenty of followup. Followup doesn't mean tunnel.

6) We'r talking about Klingon.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:52 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:This isn't a negotiation.

1. You stated your expectation as if it actually occurred.

2. Your analysis on Klingon was shaken after being confronted with facts. Can you bullet point your other reservations?

3. I still would like Jeanne to talk with you on Elyse. I like the fact she disagrees (I feel like I am dominating the hydra). She'd gain more on how to work with people, possibly articulate her Elyse read. Doubly so if I disagree on Elyse.

4. Reading 716 now.

If you say so. Are you implying you would have responded to my rebuttal regardless? No, that question isn't worth either of our time.

1. Correct.

2. Correction, I was shaken when reading through a particular post of hers.

3. Hmm. If? You haven't yet considered her?

4. Excellent.

5. Why are you being aggressive? Talk with me, not at me. If you're town we're on the same team. Why would you fight with someone you're trying to persuade?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:59 pm
by Passionate Storm
0. Yes. I just haven't been reading your wall fight because I don't want deal with pedantic things while sick.

1. Why did you feel emulating me was a good idea?

2. OK.

3. Vague pronoun use.

4. Done.

5. You should know this from my games.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:06 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:1) Why would you know that I would feel you were like me? Are you artificially emulating me?

2) This doesn't respond to the point I raised.

3) Your theory sucks. You need to stop theory crafting and just explain why something is scummy until you have played awhile. My most successful self wagon did not come until years in.

4) Your wagon hopping theory is wrong.

5) I am seeing plenty of followup. Followup doesn't mean tunnel.

6) We'r talking about Klingon.


1. Because you're suspicious when you don't need to be, you're singularly focused on taking out a certain person based on the belief that said person is scum, your people skills need work, you appear easy to mislynch, I imagine that happened a lot when you started, you like to dominate things and keep control of the situation, and you seem to enjoy shutting people down, perhaps even when you shouldn't. It also appears from your interaction with Klingon that you are emotionally attached to this game and everything in your way/distracting you from this is scum.

All things that can be used to describe me as well. This is my rebuttal. I am no alt, I am no attempt to imitate, I am a one hundred percent genuine human being that's perhaps a bit overconfident and a little too friendly to the point where I make friends by pretending with strangers that I've known them a very long time.

I am in no way here just for you, although you seem incredibly suspicious of me, and I'm not really certain why unless you see all the reasons we're alike, too.

My analysis of you as a person was my response to this rebuttal for now, I'll take a step back, detach myself emotionally and try to look at it again tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:12 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:0. Yes. I just haven't been reading your wall fight because I don't want deal with pedantic things while sick.

1. Why did you feel emulating me was a good idea?

2. OK.

3. Vague pronoun use.

4. Done.

5. You should know this from my games.


0. Still not worth either of our time. But worth adding to the list: has to get the last word

1. Not emulating you.

2. Ok.

3. You haven't considered Elyse as scum yet

4. Thanks.

5. Question is rhetorical. Don't fight me when you're trying to work with me.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:14 pm
by Garmr
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:1) Why would you know that I would feel you were like me? Are you artificially emulating me?

2) This doesn't respond to the point I raised.

3) Your theory sucks. You need to stop theory crafting and just explain why something is scummy until you have played awhile. My most successful self wagon did not come until years in.

4) Your wagon hopping theory is wrong.

5) I am seeing plenty of followup. Followup doesn't mean tunnel.

6) We'r talking about Klingon.


1. Because you're suspicious when you don't need to be, you're singularly focused on taking out a certain person based on the belief that said person is scum,
your people skills need work,
you appear easy to mislynch, I imagine that happened a lot when you started, you like to dominate things and keep control of the situation, and you seem to enjoy shutting people down, perhaps even when you shouldn't. It also appears from your interaction with Klingon that you are emotionally attached to this game and everything in your way/distracting you from this is scum.

All things that can be used to describe me as well. This is my rebuttal. I am no alt, I am no attempt to imitate, I am a one hundred percent genuine human being that's perhaps a bit overconfident and a little too friendly to the point where I make friends by pretending with strangers that I've known them a very long time.

I am in no way here just for you, although you seem incredibly suspicious of me, and I'm not really certain why unless you see all the reasons we're alike, too.

My analysis of you as a person was my response to this rebuttal for now, I'll take a step back, detach myself emotionally and try to look at it again tomorrow.



your people skills need work,


your people skills need work,


your people skills need work,


I almost choked on to death on my glass of water because of this lol.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:19 pm
by Passionate Storm
1. I am focusing on lynching actual scum with my townreads. You should read Sudoken. My people skills need work because I am not the type to let people make dumb decisions. I am trying to be friendlier as town. You should see that as a difference. I don't enjoy shutting people down.

I do see us as very alike on many levels but you are newer. Reading me I am told is hard. I suppose it's time I get a dose of my own medicine.

3. I have ruled out Elyse as scum and I see little to change my mind.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:30 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:1. I am focusing on lynching actual scum with my townreads.

Excellent. As am I.
You should read Sudoken.

Will do.
My people skills need work because I am not the type to let people make dumb decisions.

Similar reasoning.
I am trying to be friendlier as town. You should see that as a difference.

Actually, I see it as a similarity. I'm not about to be kind to the ridiculousness that is the attempt at my mislynch. Garmrs read of me is silly.

I don't enjoy shutting people down.

Perhaps worded poorly. You enjoy trying to shut down arguments you believe are dumb.

I do see us as very alike on many levels but you are newer. Reading me I am told is hard. I suppose it's time I get a dose of my own medicine.

I think I could read you well enough if I cared past getting the Elyse wagon off the ground for now. Work that I'm going to have to practically start over on since I lost it tonight when I let loose.

3. I have ruled out Elyse as scum and I see little to change my mind.

I won't worry about trying to convince you anymore today, then

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:32 pm
by Extrapolated Eagle
This is your nightly reminder that Elyse is scum.

Brought to you by Eagle. Vote Elyse for scum today.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:22 pm
by My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm wrote:This isn't a negotiation.

Jesus, why do you always tunnel?
It is so annoying no matter your alignment.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:23 pm
by My Other Head Is Scum
Spifflop wrote:Starting to think EE is a Klingon scumbuddy.

~Spiffy

I would like to hear more on this, EE feels pretty town.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:23 pm
by Passionate Storm
My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:This isn't a negotiation.

Jesus, why do you always tunnel?
It is so annoying no matter your alignment.


Cuz I am right.

This fire?

Your read on me?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:25 pm
by My Other Head Is Scum
Shiro wrote:A side note

Fire and Vedith where are you? 7 posts are not like you two at all.

I am sorry Shiro senpai for disapointing you ;(

I will make more fluff posts so it feels like I have more pressence <3

Sincerly your best best friend,
Firebringer

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:26 pm
by My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm wrote:
My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:This isn't a negotiation.

Jesus, why do you always tunnel?
It is so annoying no matter your alignment.


Cuz I am right.

This fire?

Your read on me?

Gun to my head right now, probably uncompromising town titus.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:28 pm
by Passionate Storm
My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
Shiro wrote:A side note

Fire and Vedith where are you? 7 posts are not like you two at all.

I am sorry Shiro senpai for disapointing you ;(

I will make more fluff posts so it feels like I have more pressence <3

Sincerly your best best friend,
Firebringer


Gut pinging. Why you don't vote Klingon?

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:30 pm
by My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm wrote:Gut pinging. Why you don't vote Klingon?

Klingoncelt is always D1 mislynch bait and you know this for a fact.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:33 pm
by Passionate Storm
My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:Gut pinging. Why you don't vote Klingon?

Klingoncelt is always D1 mislynch bait and you know this for a fact.


Not true. She's scum sometimes and lives till later as town sometimes.

That's still not answering your actual read there.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:40 pm
by My Other Head Is Scum
Honest answer:
I have no strong opinion on Kling yet, but I don't want to lynch due to how she is often mislynched day 1 in games. If we lynch her, I would rather it be when I actually form a strong opinion and preferably not day 12.

So there it is. Kling is off the table for me.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:43 pm
by Passionate Storm
When Klingon flips scum, I am lynching you next if you make no effort to sort her.

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:45 pm
by My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm wrote:When Klingon flips scum, I am lynching you next if you make no effort to sort her.

Bring it Titus,

You think me or Vedith are scared of you pushing us?
WE LIVE FOR IT!

-Fire

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:38 pm
by Klingoncelt
Part 2 of the reads list (Part 1 added in):

Alchemist21
- He's one of the players on this site that I can't read. Can't Read

Aneninen
- He's one of the players on this site that I can't read. This game... He's kinda goofy. Not alignment indicative, though. The Clotilde thing... wtf. Can't Read

Garmr
- Another one that I can't read, ever. Can't Read


Errantparabola
- Very much in the game, paying attention... Town

Extrapolated Eagle
- Gawd I hate wallposts. Lots and lots of them... my eyes have blisters. Guys, if the Eagle is Scum, then he deserves some kind of special award, like Best Bullshitter in the Universe or something. Town


Dapper Stranger
(Fresh & Jaqen hydra) - Looks like Fresh is having trouble using Jaqenspeak. Anyhoo, they're paying attention. A bit fixated on SpiderGwen, but...Lean Town

I Am Innocent
- Got off to a good start, then vanished. Bets this one gets replaced. Anyway, the slot is Lean Town


Grapes
- I'm not sure what to think. Null


Aunt Jemina
- C'mon, AJ is always Town, isn't she? Isn't she? It bugs me that she jumped on my FoS post, but w/e. It bugs me much more that after I explained my hesitation to vote Titus, AJ made no comment towards me, nor did she remove her vote. Until very recently I was the usual Day1 low-hanging fruit lynch, I wonder if she's just going for the easy mislynch. Lean Scum


Elyse
- Happy to finally be in a game without RC, but she acts like a basket case regardless. Her posts are full of busywork, but I'm not seeing any depth. She bounces her votes with little clarification: Garmr, Aneninen, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt, Extrapolated Eagle, Klingoncelt. Scum

Inte
- 3 posts, the final one bitching about the number of pages. Scum.

Itlepip
- That he demanded reads from me 3 times before I had the chance to read his first demand shows impatience. But when I look at his other posts I see more. I see a condescending attitude, no real content in the posts, yet an expectation that Town should work with him. Scum

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:49 pm
by Dapper Stranger
Spifflop wrote:EE interrupting has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening. There's no such thing as interrupting in a forum mafia game. Nothing anyone else posts should prevent someone from saying something.

~Spiffy


A man wonders...this-purposeful antagonism or blatant buddying?