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Pretty sure Jeanne is scum but I need to chill for a bit.

And I'm scum why? If it's for my disparity, I already said I confused two different threads. If it's solely because of your results, well, your results are not the center of the world.

NH what is RM?
The naked vote on Aristo was for him being a total lurksack for all of yesterday and doing nothing pro-town. Jeanne is also on my scum list though, I approve of that wagon but don't want to join since it's at L-2 and self hammer is a decent chance here.
I didn't fake my reads ffs, but I am town. Good to see NH coming around.
Finally, this is definitely not Role Madness.

↑ SirCakez wrote:NH what is RM?
The naked vote on Aristo was for him being a total lurksack for all of yesterday and doing nothing pro-town. Jeanne is also on my scum list though, I approve of that wagon but don't want to join since it's at L-2 and self hammer is a decent chance here.
I didn't fake my reads ffs, but I am town. Good to see NH coming around.
Finally, this is definitely not Role Madness.

I unvoted SirCakez. You can join now.

Dwlee and I are going to sit back and talk about things here.

Right now, we're back at the three roleblockers scenario with the knowledge that Shaddowez didn't go anywhere due to mod error but we technically got no result.

I'm strongly thinking Fire is town if Jeanne is scum just due to the sheer effort Jeanne is going through to make Fire look bad to me.

RM is likely role madness.

Did you ever stop to think that I could be town? If you wanted to aggravate me so I'd revert to my no-holds-barred self, then you've succeeded.

Jeanne, how do you argue that voting for me is anything but an attempt at self-preservation?

Simple. NH says there can only be one VT, and I am that VT. Therefore, you must be scum. Of course, if NH were to use their head, they'll realize that a) you're scum or b) there could be multiple VTs.

And self-preservation? Please. The whole point is that I want to die.

I am thinking about these claims. I agree with NH that three blocks in a night is highly unlikely. I am not ascetic.

So there are three major pieces of information here.

1. Fire claims to be JKer who visited Jeanne.
2. NH claims to be a tracker that was blocked last night, but also claims to know by mod-error that shaddowez went nowhere.
3. shaddowez claims to have attempted to visit me and gotten blocked.

So if we are to believe that there are fewer than three RBers, one of Fire/NH/shaddowez must be lying. I think one of NH/Fire is probably lying, as I don't think it makes sense to have both a town JKer and a town Tracker in a hood, and I also strongly doubt shaddowez would invent a roleblocked claim here.

Jeanne, did you intentionally ignore my question? Why are you saying you want to be lynched?

(also why is friggin everyone ignoring my questions this game)

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:I am thinking about these claims. I agree with NH that three blocks in a night is highly unlikely. I am not ascetic.

So there are three major pieces of information here.

1. Fire claims to be JKer who visited Jeanne.
2. NH claims to be a tracker that was blocked last night, but also claims to know by mod-error that shaddowez went nowhere.
3. shaddowez claims to have attempted to visit me and gotten blocked.

So if we are to believe that there are fewer than three RBers, one of Fire/NH/shaddowez must be lying. I think one of NH/Fire is probably lying, as I don't think it makes sense to have both a town JKer and a town Tracker in a hood, and I also strongly doubt shaddowez would invent a roleblocked claim here.

We didnt' start in the hood
-Dad

Ok, totally abusing mod error here.

1) I assumed we were roleblocked given we were an outed tracker and got no result (explicitly).
2) The mod changed our result to Shaddowez went nowhere. This tells me that we were not likely blocked but the mod change was due to error in blocking.
3) The mod then told us again that we got no result. This change back suggests that Shaddowez is an ascetic.

VOTE: Shaddowez

Shaddowez's responses today all suggested someone who knew he wasn't tracked today. First implying I had nothing on him, trying to discredit our result from a place of knowledge. His whole exchange reeks of you have nothing. He doesn't even vote GL when I make it apparent that the most likelihood is that someone is lying.

He claims vague investigator, somewhat counterclaiming us but never claims the type of investigator.


There is a chance Shaddowez could have just known I was blocked and the mod double fucked up on roleblocker as well.

Either way, right now I'm thinking Jeanne Shaddowez and one of Fire/Ari.

VOTE: NH

I will take this vote off when you read what I write.

Aeronaut, want to clear up mistakes being made?
Otherwise I am voting Night Hunters.

I will not support an NH lynch.
This is ridiculous.

VOTE: Shadow

GL, one sec. I gotta find that question again.

↑ Aristophanes wrote:I will not support an NH lynch.
This is ridiculous.

VOTE: Shadow

GL, one sec. I gotta find that question again.

You are following Night Hunters logic on this? I don't understand how the mod error confirms anything. Even Shaddowez attitude could be seen as town by using same facts presented in different way.

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:

↑ GuiltyLion wrote:"giddy to kill a PR"? Where was the giddiness in tojam's posts?

I want Ari to address this. Why did you say choose to say that he was "giddy" to kill a PR?

VOTE: Aristophanes

Got it.
It really had to do with his timing. First, when he claimed, it felt like he was saying "don't worry about lynching a PR, I'll just do their job for them!" which advocates for a D1 PR lynch. I can't really see any other good reason for him to gave claimed then (when Fire was being debated Iirc).
Then he voted NH literally 2 posts after they claimed tracker, and didn't even mention the claim. This told me they were looking to absorb their power and didn't give a shit who they were.

Thus my scumread, vote, and push on that slot.

I classify this as giddiness. It was not "pure embellishment" by any means.

↑ Firebringer wrote:

↑ Aristophanes wrote:I will not support an NH lynch.
This is ridiculous.

VOTE: Shadow

GL, one sec. I gotta find that question again.

You are following Night Hunters logic on this? I don't understand how the mod error confirms anything. Even Shaddowez attitude could be seen as town by using same facts presented in different way.

From what I gather, we either have 2 JK, (yourself and whoever blocked shadow), or yourself and a secondary roleblocker. 3 is too many, as was mentioned. The scum JK would have to have targeted Shadow, which makes little sense to me, as NH was a prime target, and 2 JKs seems unlikely.

Therefore to get both no results, someone is lying. And I believe NH.

↑ Aristophanes wrote:Therefore to get both no results, someone is lying. And I believe NH.

Ummmm vote and this don't align.

- Feel free not to answer, but I'll explain why afterwards. Is your PR active (ie you have to target somebody)?

Firebringer, why are you so opposed to us?

-Dad

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Yup Fire and us were hooded.

Do you know who neighborized you? Just yes or no is fine.

↑ Jeanne11 wrote:Simple. NH says there can only be one VT, and I am that VT. Therefore, you must be scum.

Isn't this counterintuitive to your accusation of NH having no reason to outright believe my VT claim? Aren't you basing this sentence on believing NH's role madness idea without any evidence?

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Shaddowez's responses today all suggested someone who knew he wasn't tracked today. First implying I had nothing on him, trying to discredit our result from a place of knowledge. His whole exchange reeks of you have nothing. He doesn't even vote GL when I make it apparent that the most likelihood is that someone is lying.

How does the "there must be a bus driver" factor into this thinking? If Shadow is ascetic, why does he feel the need to concoct a bus driver to explain your result on him?

↑ massive wrote:

↑ Night Hunters wrote:Yup Fire and us were hooded.

Do you know who neighborized you? Just yes or no is fine.

Yes

-Dad

So, here's an interesting fact - I'm the neighborizer. If NH actually knows who neighborized them, that person should cc me and NH can confirm it.

↑ shaddowez wrote:So, here's an interesting fact - I'm the neighborizer. If NH actually knows who neighborized them, that person should cc me and NH can confirm it.

Lol. You claimed investigative earlier. Fire and I both know you're not the neighborizer. Nice rolefish. You can die now.

I was going to go into large scenarios but this just saved the time.

↑ Night Hunters wrote:

↑ shaddowez wrote:So, here's an interesting fact - I'm the neighborizer. If NH actually knows who neighborized them, that person should cc me and NH can confirm it.

Lol. You claimed investigative earlier. Fire and I both know you're not the neighborizer. Nice rolefish. You can die now.

I was going to go into large scenarios but this just saved the time.

↑ shaddowez wrote:Yes, I did go somewhere - I tried to visit GuiltyLion. However, my action failed and was given no other info as to why. If GL and BBT were driven, that would explain it.

Nice try.

VOTE: NH