Open 640: Diffusion of Power - Mod Abandoned

[drmyshottyizsik]

nominate chip for funny guy

[SirCakez]

Wow bussed by the police too rip

[drmyshottyizsik]

Wow bussed by the police too rip

Well I think he felt like an idiot for threatening to arrest me and inpound my truck, so once he lost the argument with farmer's insurance he just had to find something. The funny thing is it wasn't even a valid something! But yes

Spoiler: story of my life

BUSSED SO HARD!

[drmyshottyizsik]

Spoiler: sorry that should have looked like this

BUSSED SO HARD!

[drmyshottyizsik]

I think after this game I really deserve the title bussed so hard

[Ranger]

Ranger I really don't understand why you think this makes anen look town.

Read Aneninen's interactions with shotty.
For that matter, shotty's interactions with Aneninen.

It doesn't line up as being scum-scum.

[Ranger]

Which one am I? Because you posted a reads list, and you've got me top tier. Now a few posts later, I'm a null read, since when do you put null reads at the top level of town reading?

The prior readslist was made before doing a round of isos and research. It was accurate for the time, but now is in need of an update.

[Ranger]

{Persivul, karnos, Murdercat, Aneninen}
{SirCakez}
{Kop}
{Shadow_step}
{Chip Butty}
{drmyshottyizsik, Scott Brosius}
A few names in here are a bit rough, but I think this is a fair approximation of where I'm at.

It does rely on shotty being scum, and Scott being scum, but the former is something we're going to find out and the latter is basically a given regardless.

[Chip Butty]

Right, page 25 convinces me of two things.
One, Scott Brosius is absolutely scum.
Two, SirCakez is almost assuredly town.

Ranger, can you say specifically what on page 25 brought you to these conclusions, especially the Scott one? It worries me a bit that, despite you insisting D1 to be sheeped on Scott or Sick, and being wrong about Sick, you have absolutely not wavered at all on Scott. I'm not necessarily disagreeing at this point, but it was only while Psyche was in the slot that I found it looking SAF, so maybe it was just a playstyle thing.

[Ranger]

Ranger, can you say specifically what on page 25 brought you to these conclusions, especially the Scott one?

It was 620. It's mostly lazy commentary, same as what the predecessors had given, along with lots of waffle-filled stances that refuse to take a hard-line on most players. The few interactions he does have are weak pushes off of weak reasons. It's like he doesn't believe what he's saying; there's a distance between his given reads and his given play.

[Chip Butty]

This list from GreyICE:

Bank 2 of Karnos, Chip, Kappy.

Is likely to contain one scumbuddy, and like it or not, you're in the running with karnos for being it.

This list IS likely to contain a scum buddy, IF Grey/Psyche/Scott is scum. But the problem is that we know Kappy was Town, I'm reading karnos as Town now, and it's not me. So for me that casts doubt on G/P/S being scum.

I said earlier that, if you are scum then your audacity is breathtaking. But a part of me worries that that is exactly what is happening. Consider, we start at 10/3. If scum!you gets two Town (let's say, for the sake of argument, Sick and Scott) lynched in a way in which no mud sticks to you, and scum gets two successful NKs on N1 and N2, suddenly it is 6/3 heading into D3, and the audacious plan starts to look like a brilliant gambit...

Now this whole Shotty business is muddying the waters to will wait until we see his flip. If you ARE Town, I urge you to go over your case on G/P/S with an open mind, and see if your case still appears so strong.

Also, about Shotty: If scum, he would have been in contact with his scumbuddies N1 about the NK target at least, and it is hard for me to picture his scumbuddies advising him to claim Anen's role...

[Chip Butty]

It's mostly lazy commentary, same as what the predecessors had given,

But Grey was anything but lazy commentary. I mean, I've never seen anyone go so hard after another player as he went after karnos...

[Chip Butty]

{Persivul, karnos, Murdercat, Aneninen}
{SirCakez}
{Kop}
{Shadow_step}
{Chip Butty}
{drmyshottyizsik, Scott Brosius}
A few names in here are a bit rough, but I think this is a fair approximation of where I'm at.

It does rely on shotty being scum, and Scott being scum, but the former is something we're going to find out and the latter is basically a given regardless.

I mostly like your rankings here, except mine of course. I don't think I would have Anen that high just yet - maybe on a par with Kop? As I mentioned, I'm having some doubts about Scott. If karnos is Town, I think he must be Town too (because of the list of three from GreyICE).

[Chip Butty]

Ranger, really, go back and read Scott's 620 again. I just don't see what you say you are seeing. Scott gives def views on what were the current issues when he joined, gives alignment-reads on several players, and casts a vote. There really isn't much fence-sitting or waffle at all. I think you are either tunneling on that slot a bit as Town, or trying for a mislynch as scum (see my post above). Maybe if you were to do a blow-by-blow of #620, that would help me see exactly what you find so objectionable about it?

[This is my username]

VOTALS:

drmyshottyizsik: 6

Lynch!

(Ranger, Scott Brosius, MURDERCAT, drmyshottyizsik, karnos, Persivul)
Not Voting: 5

drmyshottyizsik was

Town Cop

. I would like to hear your opinions on what to do about my error. Should the game be rerolled, continue as is, or do you have some other ideas of how to handle this?

EDIT: Send me what you think we should do via. PM.

[LlamaFluff]

I have still not heard anything back from the mod despite attempts to contact them. As it appears a significant mod error was also made, I am calling this game abandoned.

Sorry to the players who were stuck in limbo for so long.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok so apologies?

[Ranger]

What

were

people's alignment/roles, anyway?

Kinda important for me to know, just personally speaking.

I was an N2 doctor.

[MURDERCAT]

N1 doc, protected ranger <3

[SirCakez]

Oh damn, we were going to win
Scott, Pers and I were your lovely scum team

[MURDERCAT]

well scott was toast today but after that would have been tough without cop results.

[Ranger]

I had a sneaking suspicion the distribution this game actually

was

4:6 cop:doc. Was I right?

[Psyche]

wow
this is a pretty rare thing to happen

[SirCakez]

Yeah it was 4:6
I think we could have pulled Scott through honestly

[drmyshottyizsik]

Apologies?