Newbie 1735 - Banana Split (Game Over!)

[GuiltyLion]

is Accountant happening today? If Accountant is not happening today then I'll join one of these L-2 wagons but I really think Accountant should happen today.

[goodmorning]

There's no real way Accountant is happening today.

I think you should wait for jon to catch up first.

[GuiltyLion]

is jon not caught up?

I'm gonna wait for a Dragonfire response to my post first and foremost

[ironstove]

Guilty lion confirmed scum

[jon_h61]

By all means don't wait on me.

I always call a scum team early. (In Rome games) I think its copper and dragon.

Time will tell.
It just seems way too easy.

Pedit @ ironstove why?

[jon_h61]

@ Guilty, soon to be shortened to GL. Why?

[jon_h61]

@ ironstone I think your compass malfunctioned. Its not reading right.

[GuiltyLion]

@ Guilty, soon to be shortened to GL. Why?

is this about my latest post?

If I answered this question then it'd defeat the point of waiting, wouldn't it

[jon_h61]

No, it was the accountant push. I'd like a Reader's Digest version would be good there.
Do you think im off on my scum reads? I think I suspect copper the most right now.

[GuiltyLion]

oh

I think Accountant is faking his townreads, he handed them out to myself and Jae in a fake manner, especially since I was scumreading/voting Jae at the time. It's condensed in my 579. Also he spent most of D1 in a very protracted argument with copper that he's dropped as soon as alternative wagons sprung up

I was thinking scum!copper for a bit but Accountant's push on him eventually turned me off of it and also I feel copper's genuinely trying to game-solve when you set aside the individual scumminess of some of his posts/arguments

[Accountant]

Bullshit

I townread who I want GL, it's not my fault you didn't understand/accept my reasoning

And the reason I went off copper was because nobody wanted to vote him. If I was a dayvig he'd be dead on the spot

[Accountant]

Here's the thing

Copper isnt trying to gamesolve

Neither is ironstove

[Dragonfire]

Hi all.

First things first.
UNVOTE:
@accountant l seriously didn't know you were in the game before I asked GiF to play. I just remembered him from my earlier mafia career.
So. There's that. Let's keep things to this game. K?

I iso'd my former slot's posts and I say disregard any soft claims you may think you see. I'm really a ....


I'll be back later.

Welcome.

You were likely hoping to get away with not having to explain them, and you probably felt confident you could give some decent reasons if asked.

Scum!DDD knows he's going to get pressed on his reads. Why would he not have reasons prepared? Furthermore, why would he feel confident he could give decent reasons unless he actually could?

Exactly. Are you saying DDD picked someone to scum read before coming up with reasons because he was confident?

VOTE: Dragonfire

We were talking about DDD's alleged townread, not his scumread.

Oh, and I expected the vote on me. As soon as you replaced in, I knew it was the end for me

I'm interested, what would you have thought if I'd decided to go back on my scumread on DDD and unvote after his post?

That would have made me much more likely to think you are town, and tbh probably more inclined to think DDD is scum?

You do realise that this is what everyone else was scumreading me for - townreading everyone and having no scumreads? IMO it was a lose-lose scenario as far as my response to you, either way I'd have got increased suspicion.

also, why are you asking this question of one of your top townreads?

Because I'm paranoid as town and don't trust my reads enough, as I'm usually 50% accurate in these games (scumreading one scum, townreading the other). So it benefits me to ask as many questions as possible and get as much information as I can.

By all means don't wait on me.

I always call a scum team early. (In Rome games) I think its copper and dragon.

I'm quite offended at this assumption actually - do you think I'd hard-defend my partner, then list him as my top townread and agree with everything he says? Do you think he'd semi-defend me and join me on the DDD wagon? If I was lynched and flipped scum, it would be practically suicide for him to do this. This is either a reaction test or simply bad play.

[goodmorning]

W I F O M !

[jon_h61]

@Dragon my accusations were made with very little reading done. So don't be too offended. But yeah, it might be something like that.

I haven't read the DDD spat, so for now it's only hearsay to me. I'll ISO him tomorrow. There's others I need to look into, but replacements bleh.

[Accountant]

What do you think of accountant? I think if he's scum hell be easily caught. Just my opinion.

why

[jon_h61]

I think that if you're scum, the cog-dis will become obvious.

[Accountant]

I don't think we've played together before?

[jon_h61]

I still think you'd out yourself if you were faking it for long enough.

Do you have a scum game I can glance at?

[Accountant]

I still think you'd out yourself if you were faking it for long enough.

At the root of it - why? It's such a bizarre conclusion to come to

[Accountant]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=65520
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=67256

Picked those two because they have GL and Jae in them

[copper223]

Copper sounds pretty scummy. If you ask me.

Why do you think so?

[copper223]

Do you really have no sense of nuance? No ability to fill in the gaps? There's a very obvious argument here. Surprise me, make my argument for me, prove to me you can think critically.

I have no interest in excusing your behavior for you by providing explanations based on possible arguments like Accountant and GM have been doing, give it yourself and if it's obvious most of town will recognize that's likely the case.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Do you really have no sense of nuance? No ability to fill in the gaps? There's a very obvious argument here. Surprise me, make my argument for me, prove to me you can think critically.

I have no interest in excusing your behavior for you by providing explanations based on possible arguments like Accountant and GM have been doing, give it yourself and if it's obvious most of town will recognize that's likely the case.

Nah, I'm done with your game of gotcha bullshit and pretty much you entirely. If someone else has an issue with it then I'll take it up with them but I think everyone who isn't already voting for me can look at it and see the obvious answer; not my fault you're not a serious thinker.

[ironstove]

It's very simple if DDd flips town which I don't think he will, then copper must die.