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wait can you do two actions in one night?

But you were the vig shot, right? Why would you assume there wasn't another shot (mafia) and say that my JK had nothing to do with no deaths last night.

wow..................

In post 823, skitter30 wrote:it's kinda weird for both of you to be town
it's also a weird role for you to need to take out a possible IC (possibly bp IC at that, if the vig shot failed)

pedit oh yeah that's weird too

I absolutely have no clue about this game's design anymore. It's also possible we are wrong and that ARO is not the person we were looking for, but I heavily doubt there are a thousand people that have the precise win condition of taking someone out. That's just what we need to do. We shot because we were scared of dying last night too.

- Fireball.

In post 825, skitter30 wrote:wait can you do two actions in one night?

We are allowed to use our vigshot on a night we investigate, according to our role PM.

- Fireball.

You are a lyncher, have a vig shot, and a rolecop. Why is my role so shit compared to yours

Role wise that sounds like not a town role just like Numbers

In post 830, gobbledygook wrote:You are a lyncher, have a vig shot, and a rolecop. Why is my role so shit compared to yours

And yet we are going to lose because of a force that healed the person we needed to shoot, so it does not really matter in the end. Depression all around.

- Fireball.

You skipped me.

Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp's
Menalque overki11
skitter30
Skygazer
Elements ~ identify the bandits
Baezu Leaf
123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bg
Dr Easy Bake
gobbledygook ~ says wincon is like impossible
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's
Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot; claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest
Acute Right Obtuse ~ apparently cf's target who has possibly ic-like powers

you know that the priest can heal?

I honestly have no answer Penguin. I was just frustrated at the time that our only vigshot somehow got protected against. We kind of already know that we have probably no chances of winning this game, unless town wants to grant us our wincondition. We have a rolecop ability which could help town, for all that matters, so if we could perhaps bargain, that would be nice. Otherwise we have already lost this game anyway.

- Fireball.

They assumed it and now has to eat a shoe.

In post 826, PenguinPower wrote:But you were the vig shot, right? Why would you assume there wasn't another shot (mafia) and say

with certainty

that my JK had nothing to do with no deaths last night.

yes this is also puzzling

and yes that doesn't sound like a town role really

In post 835, skitter30 wrote:you know that the priest can heal?

No, it was just an assumption. My partner also linked me the priest mafiascum wiki page when I posted those things in the thread. Something must have healed ARO, however.

- Fireball.

In post 838, skitter30 wrote:

In post 826, PenguinPower wrote:But you were the vig shot, right? Why would you assume there wasn't another shot (mafia) and say

with certainty

that my JK had nothing to do with no deaths last night.

yes this is also puzzling

and yes that doesn't sound like a town role really

Would I really be offered a vigshot if I was not town? I guess you could make the argument I could be a traitor, but really, scums being given a vigshot is horrible game balance. And yes I am aware we are in a game where the moderator said themselves that the balance would be horrible, but come on.

- Fireball.

Could you bring 123456789 to 7 votes to help with the test while we continue to discuss pls?

p-edit

I mean - we don't know that you had a vig shot since...no deaths and all.

In post 834, skitter30 wrote:Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp's
Menalque overki11
skitter30
Skygazer
Elements ~ identify the bandits
Baezu Leaf
123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bg
Dr Easy Bake
gobbledygook ~ says wincon is like impossible
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's
Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot; claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest
Acute Right Obtuse ~ apparently cf's target who has possibly ic-like powers

and in the unkown players there's my kinda-group of 3
and a priest
and i guess one other role

honestly we might as well massclaim at this point? nearly everything is on the table already

By the by, you have to be aware that the mafia possibly considers me as a high threat: I have the ability to discern any lies with my rolecop ability, were it to come to it and that you guys helped me reach my game condition.

I will not help town if we are not helped with our wincondition, however. No chance.

- Fireball.

So - we can test 123456789 then lynch CF then.

In post 842, skitter30 wrote:honestly we might as well massclaim at this point? nearly everything is on the table already

I think that's fine.

If you want to waste everyone's time by lynching a townie be my guest, since that's actively working against your own wincondition.

I have one thing to accomplish and at this point it seems unlikely unless I am granted help, which is unlikely given the design of this game. It frankly does not matter.

VOTE: Channel Fireball

Do it. It doesn't matter unless you are scum.

- Fireball.

I mean - you just tried to blackmail the town and I don't know your alignment so...‾\_(ツ)_/‾

I try to blackmail the town because I know damn well that the role I need to execute has the ability to reveal their alignment and that the only clean way to get rid of them was to use our only vigshot, which just failed last night. So I have nothing else than to try and convince town to help me. If I can't I might as well just concede on the spot. This is not a game where I can just agree to help town because we have a unified goal. The design of this game is scum-sided by default because there exists townies like me that can get screwed over, and it just happened.

What am I supposed to do, Penguin? I honestly thought about replacing out, but that would be subjecting a poor soul to an inevitable loss.

- Fireball.

I dunno - if you're town you can achieve half your wincon by helping town win at least. Seems better than saying fuck it and throwing in the towel.