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In post 821, UnaBombaH wrote:If either of Zantetsu/Luca flip town btw, you need to reconsider Norwegian D4.
For now, I'd consider him townbinned.

I'm going to check (and protect) Norwegian tonight anyway - can't protect our PT-cop with my simple mind.

umm, might be better not to say who you're targeting? Although I'm probably getting killed tonight anyway...

Might be yea.
Would be interesting to see whether Zantetsu thinks Luca is a viable lynch, right?

In post 826, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 821, UnaBombaH wrote:If either of Zantetsu/Luca flip town btw, you need to reconsider Norwegian D4.
For now, I'd consider him townbinned.

I'm going to check (and protect) Norwegian tonight anyway - can't protect our PT-cop with my simple mind.

umm, might be better not to say who you're targeting? Although I'm probably getting killed tonight anyway...

Well, if scum have a roleblocker, we are screwed for our next actions anyway.
So getting it out in the open shouldn't change much.
They ought to kill one of the two of us next night anyway. 10/10 times.
Since I can't protect you, they might just as well kill you, since you might be able to reveal one more scum tonight.
Hence, I'm going to claim my target because the way things are, I'm going to be able to protect Norwegian tonight AND get us one more conf.town for the next days.
I do not see a downside in this.

We lynch Zantetsu.

Una target me.
Battle Mage target Egix96.

That’s my suggested actions.

If Zantetsu is scum then it’s gg. Town won’t lose.

Yea, they have to kill one of us, or we would get two conf.townies tonight.
They HAVE TO kill/roleblock you/me. Meaning that unless they have a roleblock, you are likely going to die, since you have a chance of getting a hard-ish guilty, while I can apparently only get innos in this game.

Do not tell who you are going to target so that the scum can't WIFOM us, but I think you ought to have a reasonable target more or less pointed out for you..
Checking Luca/72 makes no sense obv. because they have both claimed the hood anyway.

I'll townlock Norwegian tonight, and will keep protecting him afterwards until they kill me -> we should still have two conf.townies D3 -> one conf. townie D4.
It's a good spot for us no matter what.

In post 829, NorwegianboyEE wrote:We lynch Zantetsu.

Una target me.
Battle Mage target Egix96.

That’s my suggested actions.

This would've been my suggestion as well.
The only reason I don't want BattleMage to "lock" this as their action yet, is because it gives the scum the option to simply kill Egix if they are town.
Meaning that we don't get a usable result from BM, and there's still the WIFOM of whether he is really a town!PT-Cop or not.
So Battle Mage should consider checking someone else completely, and we might a get an inno instead.
Meaning that scum HAVE to kill either BM or me.

I want hard facts and a mechanical clear at this point.
Nothing already claimed should be debatable after the next two flips.

VOTE: Zantetsu

The thing about deepwolves is that their crumbling house of cards fall down rather easily once one of them takes a hit. It’s quite beautiful in a way.

In post 729, Zantetsu wrote:

In post 436, Zantetsu wrote:You will see that as

Una is concentrating on profii

, he is signalling that he knows something about profii that the rest of us do not.

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Una is cop

I'm lost. You knew that Una was a cop and crumbed it? How and why?

In post 740, Battle Mage wrote:Last night I investigated Zantetsu and he came up positive. Given the claims and his reaction seems pretty unlikely he is a neighbour/mason, so he must be scum.

Vote: Zantetsu

Who's all fighting here? Is it just BM vs Zantetsu? Also, Norway vs UnaBombah? Who's on who's side so I can make a decision.

In post 742, Riabi wrote:Agreed, and I think this kind of puts us in a holding pattern for the mod to confirm whether or not there was an error, doesn't it?

Does this mean that the game comes down to setup spec and mechanics? Was someone's cover blown?

In post 750, Battle Mage wrote:Egix96 is worth a read in light of Zantetsu-scum.

In post 754, Battle Mage wrote:I read a bunch of your old games...

I'm sorry you had to go through all that. I promise I'm trying to be better.

In post 782, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 732, Zantetsu wrote:But then it doesn't seem possible that town!Una actually is simple neopolitan who got a

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In post 733, Zantetsu wrote:Whoops ignore the last sentence of my last post, it was some garbage that I accidentally left in when writing my post.

Seems like a potential PT-slip from scum.

What's the slip? I don't get it.

In post 804, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 800, Battle Mage wrote:So you're saying Luca might not be scum after all? As he has claimed a non-vanilla townie role!

All we know for a fact is that he is in a PT, and he is not a Vanilla

TOWNIE

.

I don't think neighbors count as vanilla.

In post 808, Zantetsu wrote:Like, I play in the normal queue to avoid this stupid bullshit.

Most of this has gone over my head.

• I wish Norway would put some effort into this game.

In post 835, Looker wrote:I wish Norway would put some effort into this game.

What do you even want from me?

You’re either willfully ignorant, or stupid. If you don’t think i’ve put effort into this game.

In post 836, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 835, Looker wrote:I wish Norway would put some effort into this game.

What do you even want from me?

I really hope he meant that sarcastically, because a request like that, coming from him, is pretty out of line if he's sincere.

Riabi, vote Zantetsu.

Sorry for the things i’ve said about you Battle Mage. I’ve been way too irritable at certain points in this game. And that is definitely a flaw in my character.

I’ve just woken up, but are people really saying that I’m Zanr’s Partner because he concluded the Mod had most likely made a mistake?

That’s just ridiculous. It was obvious the mod had made an error; I don’t see how him pointing out the obvious there means I’m somehow his partner?

His post ‘defended’ Una more than it defended me, so what you’re saying makes no sense.

I’m actually wondering if Norwegian is Zant’s partner trying to desperately deflect onto me, because his conclusion makes no sense whatsoever.

In post 827, UnaBombaH wrote:Might be yea.
Would be interesting to see whether Zantetsu thinks Luca is a viable lynch, right?

Idiotic.

Do you think Zant!scum is going to argue against the idea that a townie is his partner?

You think if Zant/Luca were s/s that Zant would say that was a mod error.

Imagine it is Zant!scum/Luca!Town, what would Zant do in that same situation? Is it unlikely he would also conclude a mod error? Not really as it was bleeding obvious.

And if you notice, Zant had shaded me a fair bit while making that conclusion, and he ‘defended’ Una more than he defended me.

By the same logic you’d say Una is scum with Zant - but you know all three of us can’t be scum. This already disproves your logic.

Norwegian has seemed Town to me me generally this game, but the fact he wants me ‘turbo-lynched’ following a Zant red flip based on that seems disingenuous, especially when he had been TR’ing me. Why would Town try and force that connection in such a rushed way? It seems desperate, perhaps from scum who are seeing their buddy about to go down and want the next ML lined up.

If we lynch Zant and then ‘turbo-lynch’ me, then the game is nearly lost for Town.

There would be 5t v 2S with presumably the best town pr’s already outed/dead, and many slots up in the air/unsorted. it would be easy for scum to survive two ML there, which makes it seem as though Norwegian is going for the ‘game-winning’ move by setting up my ML.

In post 839, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Riabi, vote Zantetsu.

This, plus

Luca Blight wrote:If we lynch Zant and then ‘turbo-lynch’ me, then the game is nearly lost for Town.

Gives me some pause. Norwe is pushing REALLY hard to lynch Zan now, and Norwe, while your case against him isn't bad, I also don't think it justifies a turbo lynch right now, and it's certainly not air tight.
Hell, I believe there are still players in this game who've not posted in D2, aren't there?

Maybe let's take our foot off the gas just a bit.

Norwegian’s case against me IS bad. He’s saying I’m Zant’s partner because Zant concluded that the mod made an error on Una’s result, which is ridiculous.

I don’t see how Town!Norwegian goes from hard tr’ing me to saying I must be Zant’s partner on that evidence - it’s in really bad faith.

Most probably he panicked because Una is suddenly almost conf Town due to his full claim/clarification of mod error and his partner (Zant) has just been found guilty- Norwegian feels the need to hard bus and line up the next ML.

Sorry Looker, I'm here now and catching up.