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In post 822, Servant Assassin wrote:

In post 816, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 810, Cabd wrote:

Vote Count M-11

Assassin

(5): Archer, Foreigner, Rider, Moon Cancer, Alter Ego
Avenger (4): Avenger, Berserker, Beast,

Assassin

Caster (3): Saber, Lancer, Caster
Rider (1): Ruler
Saber (1): Shielder

Phase Page Count: 33/60

With 14 servants alive, it takes 8 votes to lock in a master. Otherwise, a master will be selected by plurality rules in: (expired on 2020-09-08 21:23:37)

This should tell you all you need to know about why I'm not okay with Assassin winning this vote. No one should be okay with Assassin wining this vote.

Plus Foreigner and Alter Ego are both ON the wagon?

Nope nope nope nope nope.

lol just lol

In post 823, Servant Assassin wrote:fwiw there probably are scum on my wagon though

Like, Rider. Look at this response and tell me this is a person you are comfortable with as town.

Seriously.

Back but exhausted. Will probably spend the rest of the day recuperating.

@Avenger 505:

1. The repetition was strictly for clarity. At present, I think you are more likely mafia than town.
2 and 3. The problem is that such sort of commentary is highly suspect. Strong opinions are more like to come from town and weak/"wishy-washy" opinions are more likely to come from mafia because one faction is genuinely hunting while the other is BSing the process.

Lancer's 510 about Shielder is weird given Cabd stated fewer than ten posts prior that Shielder was getting replaced. It also doesn't really say anything meaningful about Shielder.

@Alter Ego 519: sup

@Alter Ego again 669: I actually agree with you to an extent, but that extent is "Day 2 and beyond once there are vote trains and flips with which to work". Day 1 is all wordswordswords with no frames of reference so I'm far more inclined to suspect/vote for people whose posts look more like mafia trying to BS hunting than town genuinely hunting.

I don't mind silliness myself, but when my primary perception of someone is "meaningless silliness", that looks like mafia trying to BS hunting. Particularly when it is sprinked with obvious pro-town sentiments that anyone can produce.

@Berserker 692: I meant "bizarre" in the sense of "did I miss something obvious???". There's no concern there regarding your alignment; I'm still quite happily holding that you're town, and am aware that townies can be wrong (like how I also think you're wrong in not seeing how cheek-pinchingly town Foreigner is).

@Assassin 710: If it matters, I'd be thrilled with being voted Master. My upgrade's pretty nice and I already have multiple townreads I feel good enough about to send upgrades their way (plus the other nifty stuff). I simply didn't push for it because the game ethos at the time of my first post had made it clear to me it was very likely not worth the effort pushing for it in what little time I have.

Caster compromise? Caster compromise! I was getting pretty sad at the number of people who's take on Caster was "I'd be willing to Master them but I'd prefer this other direction instead" when there were a handful of different other directions.

In post 805, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 804, Servant Avenger wrote:Wow, are you actually mafia? Lol.

Ahhh!

Players who refuse to post a complete reads list with reasoning is mafia. Wow, this game's going to be easy.

This is also a fucking terribad post and AE should be killed for it.

Exercise to the reader to discover why. First one in gets brownie points.

In post 824, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 818, Servant Rider wrote:Also, Berserker, you don't want an Assassin vote because AE and Foreigner are on the wagon and Assassin himself "sketches you out". What, then, do you think of Assassin voting for Avenger, and that both Foreigner and AE have declared they're okay with voting Caster?

Are you scumreading AE, Foreigner and Assassin?

I'm scum reading AE.

Assassin sketches me, and I wouldn't mind seeing them die. Your own wagon being the top wagon, and you not voting for it... witht he things Assassin has already said this game?

It makes 0 sense. Less than 0 sense.

Foreigner has done so much bad this game, it concerns me that I might just be seeing a player who doesn't give a shit? Like I worry about killing them and them being bad town, but it doesn't mean I need to trust their ability to play the game.

i'm modest and willing to put my vote elsewhere, but also me winning the vote tells me less than it would if someone else won it. (my confidence in my ability to lead is also not as high as it was a few days ago)

i mean what, do you think i'm chickening out of giving my team a bonus here? like what are you implying my strategy is? this doesn't make any sense lmao

i would be worried berserker was trying to dismantle consensus if i wasn't fairly sure her early play made her town

I scum read Berserker irl.

At present Saber,
I'm wondering how you could reach the conclusion I'm more likely mafia than town.

Give me your voteeeeee foreigner.

*Nags, pokes, tickles*

Idk how I feel about Berserker, I think she is just a shitty person and it's making it hard for me to read them. They are using attacks against me as a person to push their agenda and that sort of bothers me.

I think Assassin if they were a self aware player wouldn't be playing in the manner they are doing, they should probably win this vote because I value them as a conf town.

Avenger is an acceptable vote but again I have no reason to move.

Caster could be trying to pocket me and if I want to go for a sheer towniness approach I think Avenger wins my vote in that regard anyway.

Rider and Saber are simply not going to be winning this vote.

Frankly Berserker is single handely making me not have fun this game and I am probably lurking until one of us die.

I'd literally vote Berserker in right now because it garuntees their eventual demise.

please calm down

take a deep breath and go for a walk or something, get away from the computer/phone

In post 827, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 805, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 804, Servant Avenger wrote:Wow, are you actually mafia? Lol.

Ahhh!

Players who refuse to post a complete reads list with reasoning is mafia. Wow, this game's going to be easy.

This is also a fucking terribad post and AE should be killed for it.

Exercise to the reader to discover why. First one in gets brownie points.

If I'd posted what I really wanted to post at Avenger, you and I might have hit it off, at least in terms of bombast!

I find it almost impossible to not rise to the kinds of dismissive posts you've made about me. But, it's not going to be conducive to a friendly atmosphere if I keep doing that. So, if and when you decide to present a case for me being scum, I'll respond to that. If you have questions for me, I'll respond to that. For the betterment of society, I'll probably ignore anything that's not one of those.

In post 826, Servant Saber wrote:@Alter Ego 519: sup

Keep doing what you're doing! I'll chime in if I have questions.

In post 826, Servant Saber wrote:@Alter Ego again 669: I actually agree with you to an extent, but that extent is "Day 2 and beyond once there are vote trains and flips with which to work". Day 1 is all wordswordswords with no frames of reference so I'm far more inclined to suspect/vote for people whose posts look more like mafia trying to BS hunting than town genuinely hunting.

I don't mind silliness myself, but when my primary perception of someone is "meaningless silliness", that looks like mafia trying to BS hunting. Particularly when it is sprinked with obvious pro-town sentiments that anyone can produce.

669 is a long post with comments to a few different people about different topics. What part(s) are you agreeing with? And who is the silliness part of your reply about?

In post 832, Servant Avenger wrote:Give me your voteeeeee foreigner.

*Nags, pokes, tickles*

Elongating the e just makes me read that as 'vo teeeee' in my head. Please consider a bit more carefully which vowel you want to stress.

In post 829, Servant Assassin wrote:i would be worried berserker was trying to dismantle consensus if i wasn't fairly sure her early play made her town

I concur.

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I'm in the middle of an extremely nitpicky note-taking reread of this game, and when I finish that, I'm going to try to do some progression analysis wrt to votes.

I hope to complete both before we're into day 1 proper.

And here I was saying I wasn't going to be helpful. Game plan ruined.

In post 825, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 822, Servant Assassin wrote:

In post 816, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 810, Cabd wrote:

Vote Count M-11

Assassin

(5): Archer, Foreigner, Rider, Moon Cancer, Alter Ego
Avenger (4): Avenger, Berserker, Beast,

Assassin

Caster (3): Saber, Lancer, Caster
Rider (1): Ruler
Saber (1): Shielder

Phase Page Count: 33/60

With 14 servants alive, it takes 8 votes to lock in a master. Otherwise, a master will be selected by plurality rules in: (expired on 2020-09-08 21:23:37)

This should tell you all you need to know about why I'm not okay with Assassin winning this vote. No one should be okay with Assassin wining this vote.

Plus Foreigner and Alter Ego are both ON the wagon?

Nope nope nope nope nope.

lol just lol

In post 823, Servant Assassin wrote:fwiw there probably are scum on my wagon though

Like, Rider. Look at this response and tell me this is a person you are comfortable with as town.

Seriously.

In post 827, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 805, Servant Alter Ego wrote:

In post 804, Servant Avenger wrote:Wow, are you actually mafia? Lol.

Ahhh!

Players who refuse to post a complete reads list with reasoning is mafia. Wow, this game's going to be easy.

This is also a fucking terribad post and AE should be killed for it.

Exercise to the reader to discover why. First one in gets brownie points.

You're weird.

Oh, I know the answer to Berserker's riddle too coincidentally. It's because Alter Ego stressed the h there. But I don't think that necessarily means Alter Ego is scum, just wrong.

Fuck it, let's go.

VOTE: Caster

Money where your mouth is, Caster lovers.

In post 843, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Oh, I know the answer to Berserker's riddle too coincidentally. It's because Alter Ego stressed the h there. But I don't think that necessarily means Alter Ego is scum, just wrong.

I am constantly amazed by the way the scumtells used unironically on this website somehow get worse every year.

i thought it was just because AE was sarcastic

In post 843, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Oh, I know the answer to Berserker's riddle too coincidentally. It's because Alter Ego stressed the h there. But I don't think that necessarily means Alter Ego is scum, just wrong.

Wrong about Rider?

If I'm wrong, I hope I figure it out pretty soon.

At one point about 15 pages ago I thought he was also concerned about you.

I read the back and forth between you two with great interest. It didn't quite resolve.

The answer to Berserker's riddle is probably "chainsaw defense" or something of that ilk in the Big Book of Scum Tells.

No, I meant wrong in your use of "Ahhh" over "Aaah".

But also yes probably wrong if you think Rider is town.

In post 844, Servant Rider wrote:Fuck it, let's go.

VOTE: Caster

Money where your mouth is, Caster lovers.

At this point, though Avenger's definitely not my first pick, I don't care that much as long as it doesn't go to someone outside the current top 3. Not enough to move, anyway. My vote is where my heart is.