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Marky Mark · Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:38 pm

In post 816, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 813, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 808, Andresvmb wrote: Maybe I should have phrased it better - pressure can definitely catch Scum. It’s just that there was no buildup to it when it happened. So unless Math creates a hole for themselves, you end up in a situation where others don’t join because the explanation just isn’t there.
Some people were SRing math since his first reads post, iirc shelly called it out as consensusy but others were certianly also SRing the slot. As I've said before, wouldn't be my first choice for a wagon but I think the reasons people were SRing him had been fairly well articulated by the time the wagon formed.
I do recall there being multiple people that were asking for paragraphs to try and understand why Math was being SR. And as Math actually correctly pointed out, shellyc was SR’ing Math for something they did as Town as well. I would have liked to see folks putting votes down perhaps reinforcing their reasoning a bit. That would have created some real pressure. Semi-naked votes all bunched up don’t tend to have the same effect I feel.

I get it, but due to the inherent nature of why people were SRing him, eg being consenus-y and lurky, I can't see people being able to write tonnes on stuff on why he's been scummy. It's one of those slots that you pressure to try to get a response out of and use that to make a more meaningful read.

Marky Mark · Post Post #826 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:39 pm

Yup, so my internet hung and then kicked back into action. Apologies for the random duplicate post

Andresvmb · Post Post #827 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:44 pm

I have a hard time with the argument that Math is being consensus-y. The lurking, absolutely. Agreeing with how the bulk of the players view the game

could

be bad. Or could be Town recognizing that the game is going in the right direction. It’s a hard accusation to make with little information is what I’m trying to say. Or at least it’s hard to really argue against. And if you’re one of those Town players with that consensus view? Why would you SR someone who agrees with you all of a sudden?

DkKoba · Post Post #828 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:35 pm

VOTE: andres
ill explain later in more detail but their recent posts stink tonme and I think they're doing a lot of open ended solving ie setting up a ML chain

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #829 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:23 pm

I'm on page 31, posting reads soon.

Glitch · Post Post #830 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:35 pm

Official Vote Count 1.06

It was believed for centuries that metal was an unbendable material. No effort or thought was given to bending metal because it was simply assumed one could not do so. Bending was a fighting art form given to humans by spirits early on in history. As history continued, these bending disciplines expanded through trial and error, research, discovery, and more. Waterbenders soon learned they could bend ice and snow, then steam, then found their ability to heal with their bending, and eventually grew into an even darker expertise of bending. With earthbenders, legendary bender Toph Beifong became trapped in a metal box. In her attempt to escape, using her willpower and ability to feel earth with her bending, she realized that metal is simply a material derived from earth. It is a form of earth that has been purified and refined. Finding the material makeup of earth within the metal, she was able to bend her way out of the box, becoming the first metalbender in history and creating a new school of bending that would be studied for decades to come. The art form was later honed and developed into a masterful skill with metalbenders dressing themselves in metal armor and weapons they could use to fight with at any given moment.

Official Vote Count 1.06With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

NDMath: 3

(shellyc, Infinity 324, VP Baltar)

JacksonVirgo: 2

(Tayl0r Swift, Andresvmb)

geraintm: 1

(DrippingGoofball)

shellyc: 1

(NDMath)

DrippingGoofball: 1

(Marky Mark)

Infinity 324: 1

(geraintm)

Not_Mafia: 1

(Not_Mafia)

DkKoba: 1

(JacksonVirgo)

Andrewsvmb: 1

(DkKoba)

Not Voting: 1

(Zdenek)

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-06 00:19:20).

Mod notes: Upon request, shellyc is being replaced.

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DrippingGoofball · Post Post #831 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:39 pm

TOWN

DrippingGoofball

Not_Mafia (Sesq)

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12265107 - I think I'm in love with this post, and that's all I need to know he's town

shellyc

DkKoba

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12255735 - opportunistic
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12256428 - not true
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12256533 - town
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12268714 - scummish
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12268746 - brutal but so true
This slot is so town, I'm not going to copypaste all the towning.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12270446 - astute

Andresvmb

JacksonVirgo

Marky Mark

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12257045 - scummy
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12261780 - townie
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12266695 - waffling
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12270830 - serving more waffles
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12271546 - I'm starting to think he's just excessively courteous and I'm reading it as waffles.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12272870 - I like this post, finally some syrup.

NULL

Infinity 324

SCUM

VP Baltar

NDMath

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12257735 - scummish
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12260665 - lazy meta
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12263967 - pointless whining
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12272049 - last sentence could be town LOL

geraintm

Zdenek

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12270961 - weak
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12271305 - weak lazy reads

VP Baltar · Post Post #832 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:56 pm

Rude and nasty indeed

VP Baltar · Post Post #833 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:59 pm

Your read of me is terrible DGB, but get on this math wagon

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #834 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:20 pm

VOTE: NDmath

I could

DkKoba · Post Post #835 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:36 pm

vp and math are both scum DGB?

Andresvmb · Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:37 pm

In post 828, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: andres
ill explain later in more detail but their recent posts stink tonme and I think they're doing a lot of open ended solving ie setting up a ML chain

Which mis-executions do you think I’m setting up? So you think the players I have highlighted as Scummy are Town?

DkKoba · Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:38 pm

In post 836, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 828, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: andres
ill explain later in more detail but their recent posts stink tonme and I think they're doing a lot of open ended solving ie setting up a ML chain
Which mis-executions do you think I’m setting up? So you think the players I have highlighted as Scummy are Town?

i just get the vibe that the way u have presented the way u are reading ppl is in such a way that allows for a change later on i.e. flexible evidence.

i dont like how u seem to be backseated this game. it makes me feel like u are just popping in time to time to appear towny and then let ppl fight eachother.

VP Baltar · Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Not too late for scum to bus Math here. Premium seats are almost filled and that speed hammer is gonna look bad!

Buy now!

DkKoba · Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:44 pm

mmm something doesnt feel right

VP Baltar · Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:46 pm

In post 839, DkKoba wrote:mmm something doesnt feel right

About?

DkKoba · Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:47 pm

dgb and u and the wagon bc

DkKoba · Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:48 pm

it doesnt line up logically that they are voting here or like not even questioning u voting here.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:51 pm

At work, I’m finish in like 2 hours and I get home in like an hour after that so expect me to yeet my sanity to oblivion by posting in this game I’m about 3 hours

VP Baltar · Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:52 pm

In post 842, DkKoba wrote:it doesnt line up logically that they are voting here or like not even questioning u voting here.

I don't disagree. I mean me being on that list with two people I've pushed the most to get yeeted is some serious "VP is kamikaze scum", but oh well.

I take what I can get to yeet scummy people though. I always encourage scum to bus their buddies

Andresvmb · Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:58 pm

@DkKoba why would I be completely rigid on D1? I am expressing my reads as I have them right now. I also don’t really have particularly strong TR’s. Like I have yet to find someone this game that is extremely likely to be Town in my view.

I also think you’re seeing these stances from me because we have a large list of somewhat difficult players to read in this game {Zdenek, DGB, geraintm, NDMath, VPB and Not_Mafia}, some players that have notable Scum skills based on my past experience {shellyc, VPB}, and some players that seem to me to be acting somewhat dogmatically or in my view, Scummy {Marky Mark (by his own admission), Jackson}. I think you’re mostly misunderstood here, but you are also very polarizing. I mean, either VPB, shellyc, DGB, and I (among others) seem to be arguing that you are Town, whereas Jackson, Marky Mark and Not_Mafia (among others) have explicitly stated or argued the reverse.

The closest thing I have to decent Town Reads are {Infinity, Tayl0r}, fully recognizing that I have a reasonable degree of skepticism of both slots still. And look at DGB’s takes there - both Null!

The argument that I am taking a back seat I disagree with, but that’s your perception. So I won’t argue about it.

Andresvmb · Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:00 pm

Ugh I butchered a sentence that I wanted to re-write but you get the point.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:00 pm

In post 845, Andresvmb wrote:@DkKoba why would I be completely rigid on D1? I am expressing my reads as I have them right now. I also don’t really have particularly strong TR’s. Like I have yet to find someone this game that is extremely likely to be Town in my view.

I also think you’re seeing these stances from me because we have a large list of somewhat difficult players to read in this game {Zdenek, DGB, geraintm, NDMath, VPB and Not_Mafia}, some players that have notable Scum skills based on my past experience {shellyc, VPB}, and some players that seem to me to be acting somewhat dogmatically or in my view, Scummy {Marky Mark (by his own admission), Jackson}. I think you’re mostly misunderstood here, but you are also very polarizing. I mean, either VPB, shellyc, DGB, and I (among others) seem to be arguing that you are Town, whereas Jackson, Marky Mark and Not_Mafia (among others) have explicitly stated or argued the reverse.

The closest thing I have to decent Town Reads are {Infinity, Tayl0r}, fully recognizing that I have a reasonable degree of skepticism of both slots still. And look at DGB’s takes there - both Null!

The argument that I am taking a back seat I disagree with, but that’s your perception. So I won’t argue about it.

I feel like this is a town post

Andresvmb · Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:08 pm

Wait, what? Shellyc is being replaced?

Andresvmb · Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:10 pm

That’s a shame. Shellyc always a pleasure playing with you. Until next time!