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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:01 am
by Dannflor
I mean by one player

I'm more scum reading you based on reactions to April than whatever April was sring you for

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:53 am
by clidd
Grechen, your frustration doesn't strike me as towny and I'm inclined to think that your claim is probably fake.

It's fine if you want to play your own way and have fun during the process, as that is the main purpose of the game, but that doesn’t mean that other people don’t have the right to suspect you, either because of you behavior or some interpersonal characteristic that you believe should be seen as nai.

I have the same impression that Dann commented. I can see when a player is suspecting me incorrectly and is town, but your way of dealing with our votes seemed too much like a scum ate and not an evaluative stance to know if we are town or scum pushing you.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:58 am
by Klick
We're not voting Gretchen today that's dumb

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:03 pm
by clidd
And yeah, I'm drastically different here. I'm aware of that.

Dann interpreted me correctly and Klick's assessment would probably be correct if I wasn't deliberately getting out of my ''town'' way of playing.

pedit: I'm comfortable with the vote atm, unless she starts to townspew.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:23 pm
by Dannflor
In post 827, Klick wrote:We're not voting Gretchen today that's dumb
is it because of the claim

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:32 pm
by Klick
Mostly yeah
I'm also totally seeing the frustration argument from her perspective

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:34 pm
by Dannflor
meh I think it's fake and designed to make us let her live multiple nights

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:40 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 801, Gretchen wrote:
In post 769, April Ludgate wrote:
In post 730, Gretchen wrote:tunneled on genuinely nai things

This put me over really, i wasn’t even really focusing on Gretchen, they were completely secondary.

Means they’re feeling the pressure and reacting poorly towards it, and i do think Dann has Towned it up in ways he wouldn’t if he were scum here.
not pressured by anything at all. just annoyed that you think i'm maf for literally having fun. that actually gets on my nerves

again, then you gotta see it bigger, i think everyone has a chance at being scum, these are day 1 reads.

if you're mad at people thinking you could be mafia on day 1, idk what to tell ya.

that's also 1 thing you got tunneled on, and now i'm more suspicious of you sticking on the one thing when your pushes and gamestate weaving was scummier than the first post.

However, if you are scum, that post I mentioned first, IS scum indicative, and it feels like you're scum who thinks that was a poor reason to scum read you, and are mad for it, which is actually a stronger reason based on that first reason and it created a chain reaction.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:42 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 803, Gretchen wrote:but yeah, just so you know April, if you wanna know what killed my motivation and enthusiasm for this game, it was you saying that right at the start
this is like not my problem, i am allowed to have reads and post my thoughts :lol: if it's wrong, it's wrong, i'm not against the idea that it's wrong, but you've done nothing to make me feel like it is besides the "scum mad for being pushed for bad reasons" now in addition to the energy of everything you got going on

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:43 pm
by April Ludgate
yeah, that claim's fake.

If that was their role, they'd be fine with me having given them that suspicion cover.

Klick/Gretchen are paired

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:45 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 830, Klick wrote:Mostly yeah
I'm also totally seeing the frustration argument from her perspective

i very much think scumgretchen would be upset here based on just their posts from this game. i feel like town grtechen would just care less, especially because i wasn't pushing them at first


Also, Klick jumping onto Gretchen alongside Clidd, their main push, is insanely scummy.

Klick's trying to save partner Gretchen here.

I'm less sure on Geraint scum now, it feels almost as if Klick was trying to appeal to that.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:46 pm
by April Ludgate
like no cop/detective who wasn't being pushed is going to be upset about the game for getting scum read by one person there, it actively makes it more likely they wouldn't be night killed. they decided on that claim when it was time for them to claim.

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:47 pm
by HypoSoc
See, yeah, compared to "late activated IC", Novice Detective IS something that makes sense for scum to claim.

Also, it feels like you made the claim pretty early... like, as town it's a role you want to keep secret. You weren't at risk of being hammered immediately (only E-2 at the time you made the claim, if I counted correctly), so why would you give up the town power role's anonymity so quickly?

Edit by way of preview: +1 to April's "frustrated scum" analysis

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:48 pm
by April Ludgate
im also like soul reading Dann as town somehow even though the others were scummy for me, and Clidd's post here has been good.

AliceK seemed super genuine as well. So that's kind of a town block im working with right now, which means gretchen was one of the only ones on the entrapta wagon i dont town read, so wagonomically, they make sense as scum here

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:48 pm
by April Ludgate
oh yeah, hyposac is a town read too

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:48 pm
by April Ludgate
i think e-2 is a fine time for them to claim, but i do think it is fake

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:02 pm
by Klick
I have a role that synergises with Gretchen's in such a way that makes me believe the claim is town.

Can we vote scum today?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:24 pm
by RLotus
UNVOTE:

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:01 pm
by bugspray
In post 792, geraintm wrote:
In post 567, RLotus wrote:VOTE: DrippingGoofball
In post 568, RLotus wrote:buspray
Amelie
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Da Dude
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AliceK
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In post 791, RLotus wrote:VOTE: gretchen
this feels like someone dropping from a wagon that wasnt going anywhere to one that was gettign traction. don't like this
callint someone for changing wagons between their two biggest scumreadsn is such a fucking strech

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:02 pm
by bugspray
more frequent votecounds would be really nice

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:05 pm
by Dannflor
Fine

VOTE: geraintm

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:11 pm
by bugspray
fine what?

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:12 pm
by bugspray
why are you so begrudging

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:13 pm
by bugspray
amelie is way too townread rn thats my take

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:16 pm
by bugspray
really hot take: there are no scum in neighborhoods this game