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In post 814, Venus Fly Trap wrote:also what exactly is the difference between 'read evolving' and 'adding more parts to the read as more things happen'?
like you're dinging me for evolving the read when ... you continue to post things i don't like and i explain why i don't like them.
not really sure what you're expecting from me here

Yeah, there's not really a difference there.

You've been pushing me consistently from the outset of the game - I've been your top scumread from Page 1 to Page 30. Earlier when I felt there had to be scum pushing me your push was the only one that I disliked significantly and I felt my scumreads were too easy but I think it was more you fitting well in the "scum playing well" and "scum pushing me" roles then me actually finding you scummy.

In post 823, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 814, Venus Fly Trap wrote:and i will now note that in recent pages, as general feeling towards sircakez has shifted more towards a townread, you're also rethinking that for ??? reasons

I think that the way that Cakez reacted to me - namely kind of doubting his push on me while also still pushing me and sort of defending my approach to him in a couple of places while still suspecting me - is nuance that Cakez is incapable of faking as scum currently.

I don't have anything against Cakez as a person - as a player, it bothers me when he pushes me and he pushes me and he pushes me without actually reading my responses to him. It goes beyond Popcorn Mafia. I don't really want to talk about it more than this - I don't think it's productive to figure out my alignment and I don't think it's good for game health for me to continue to talk about my frustrations with Cakez - done that enough already.

ya we can drop popcorn mafia
like yeah i see what you're saying and agree with u that cakez is more nuanced than i'd expect as scum but i have issues with the timing and progression of this
(and how i'm suddenly town and how you're now interacting with me)

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notsci idk if that was to nacho or everyone but if it was to everyone idk if you'll like my answer so yeah

pedit i'm gonna be honest that that's not a really satisfactory response, i'm sorry

~ skitter

In post 821, Infinity 324 wrote:Ydrasse what do you believe in most this game?

probably you/kismet town? i don't have a really... good grasp on what's happening this game all things considered and i haven't gotten to talk to mena like, much at all about it so i'm kind of floating right now

the scumreads i do have have things that make me not sure about them (mainly lg + nacho) actually being scum but i don't know what the game is if they aren't?

i have some thoughts about nacho mainly moreso than lg because lg gave me like... one good thing from them but i am also in a tft game right now so they'll come after

- ydra

In post 822, Venus Fly Trap wrote:so my current issue is that as far as i can tell this is drastically different from where you started like two hours ago and i don't know how/why this changed and most of your townreads are sort of following the general popular ones and everyone bad and below are gonna be easier pushes than the people at the top

The townreads that I added are Notscience + Cakez. Cakez I've already explained a bit, notscience just left his scumrange. I would have that read regardless of alignment.

The group of what's left is all pretty easy to push with the exception of you but while it would be gratifying if you were scum pushing me I don't think that's the case, partially because of Lilith and partially because of Bork making me feel like my read on you is more OMGUS than anything else.

I've been reanalyzing a lot this game. There aren't any reads that I've been weirdly tied to. I feel very confident in townreads. So while I don't necessarily have slam dunk reads now I feel, when y'all do get around to mislynching me, I will have a quality legacy to leave behind.

Skitter I’m expecting not to like the answers I’m trying to figure something out but it’s hard to be objective

@ydra Talk to mena about nacho for me

Nacho keeps posting stuff that pings me and I'm at the point where he's just always going to be my preferred elim for today so yeah

In post 786, Nachomamma8 wrote:When you mislynch me, just treat my reads as vengeful popcorn style.

why? you're fiip flopping all over the place (which is fine!) but i don't see a universe where you, being aware that you're doing that, also says "but also sheep this"

ok then my answer is that you're kinda clique-y and will overlook your friends being scummy cuz you don't want them to be scum

i am, of course, biased towards that answer due to prior experiences and maybe if i wasn't in those games i wouldn't feel that way

apologies if that's too blunt or rude and i believe you've made a substantial effort towards being better abt it

but ya
~ skitter

i feel kidna bad for actually writing that out :/

~ skitter

Bork, you too please. I’m judging if my analysis is correct.

Pedit- That kinda lines up with where I’m going, honestly.

Pedit2-

You don’t have to be! I’ll explain more once I get more feedback.

In post 826, Venus Fly Trap wrote:like yeah i see what you're saying and agree with u that cakez is more nuanced than i'd expect as scum but i have issues with the timing and progression of this
(and how i'm suddenly town and how you're now interacting with me)

Holding timing against me is silly. I wasn't around when Cakez did town shit. Part of the reasons why my progressions are as chaotic as they are is because I flip my reads pretty quickly naturally. Part of the reason is because I tend to go 24 hours between significant posting sessions but am still skimming and thinking about the game in the meantime.

In post 831, Kismet wrote:

In post 786, Nachomamma8 wrote:When you mislynch me, just treat my reads as vengeful popcorn style.

why? you're fiip flopping all over the place (which is fine!) but i don't see a universe where you, being aware that you're doing that, also says "but also sheep this"

The end of my #828 addresses this.

In post 830, Infinity 324 wrote:@ydra Talk to mena about nacho for me

Nacho keeps posting stuff that pings me and I'm at the point where he's just always going to be my preferred elim for today so yeah

i willlll if he ever comes back :>

- ydra

noddy what are you looking for in particular atm?

What caused me to tilt and become overall useless in Tenet? It was a big day one event.

skitter is near lock to me at this point i can just feel tenet skitter breathing down our necks right now

p-edit: heh

In post 824, notscience wrote:Open question, what’s my biggest weakness as town?

oh you're asking me to answer this

nacho knocking over your noraa push?

Ugh fuck it I’m done beating around the bush

Basically I feel like my noticeable weakness is I want to be liked in general (especially by my friends) and am extremely susceptible to guilt and other AtE so much so that it shuts me down entirely abd im just trying to figure out if nachos approach to me this game makes sense in that lens. The thing that tilted me out of the game in tenet was Noraas wall.

Ninja-
Dingdingding

Oh if that's the case nacho is even more scummy here somehow

i think most players are at least a little weak to ate.

Yes but it’s a fairly obvious one particularly to someone in that situation with me who saw it happen firsthand.

My confusion at the moment is my reads don’t look too different than his and that’s concerning.

i'm gonna be honest i don't *think* nacho is trying to tilt you via ate but i think he may be trying to capitalize on your friendship (which i'm assuming you have to some extent from how you're talking? idk maybe i misread that bit) or at the very least on how you view his towngame and past shared games to get you to back off him via the whole 'let's do what we should have done in popcorn mafia and will you commit to sheeping my reads after i flip' thing
(and i already mentioned why i think that's bad in that he doesn't really have any reads strong enuf that would be worth sheeping like that just now anyways)

pedit yeah i already called out this his reads suddenly look like everyone else's >.>

~ skitter

i don't see a reasonable universe where he can push either me or you
he tried skitter and we didn't bite on it
he tried cakez - i'm not banking cakez yet but yeah

infinity is the only thing we need to re-eval but i still think town by play