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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:11 pm
by shwinnebego
In post 816, catboi wrote:I have no real guess as to why they no-killed here either. Seems as though it'd be much more advantageous to have someone die. The only think I can think of is conspiracy theorizing around wanting people to vote val. But the fact that Val is going on incoherently about the nokill and acting like there's a spare elimination makes me think this was a move on his part to try to be confusing.
I think barring further input, I'll be voting Val. Even in the event we don't eliminate today, the lack of a hammer provides info on the following day.
Again I would think that it's because with a 6 player mislim and lose, there are more ways for town to get it wrong than there are with 5 player mislim and lose.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:12 pm
by shwinnebego
what do you think is goin on w this game
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:13 pm
by shwinnebego
In post 812, catboi wrote:I don't think there's any reason I intentionally nokill here. It's a much greater advantage to have the game be winnable with 1 townie being wrong, rather than two. But we can cross that bridge if I'm still around on later days.
yeah good point i guess it's kind of a wash between looking at it this way and looking at it the way i suggested
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:08 pm
by catboi
val's actions today are completely mystifying to me, as either alignment, really.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:59 pm
by GeneralWu
In post 822, shwinnebego wrote:As much as it's a bit of a pain in the ass for whoever replaces Val, I'd like to just eliminate that player today and see what happens.
keepin' my vote on val/val's replacement
I hope folks will join me in hammering val and ending this game, it's getting a bit tedious tbh
Your eagerness to hammer someone quickly is suspicious, especially because you've been like this for pretty much the entire game.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:05 pm
by GeneralWu
In post 615, Save The Dragons wrote: In post 593, shwinnebego wrote: In post 592, Save The Dragons wrote:hmmm. hmm. hhmmmmmmhhhmmm.
i thought it was interesting because i wonder what he was thinking.
VOTE: Meg
If possible, can you explain why you just moved your vote?
Please spell it out plainly if possible, unless you really really think that continuing to post cryptically will benefit town. If you do not do that, then barring someone else explaining to me why your cryptic approach to posting helps town in a sufficiently compelling fashion, I will interpret your actions and cryptic justifications for them as wolfish behavior.
i do not think discussing this benefits the town
Okay, this here seems confusing. Why is not discussing beneficial to town?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:08 pm
by catboi
Just for anyone keeping track, I think me/roden, me/generalwu, and generalwu/roden are ruled out as teams.
Toying in my mind whether I want to roll with no elim or put val at E-1 to further test roden/wu to see if they hammer. Not sure I'm there yet but feel unexpectedly more confident than I thought.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:09 pm
by catboi
In post 830, GeneralWu wrote: In post 615, Save The Dragons wrote: In post 593, shwinnebego wrote: In post 592, Save The Dragons wrote:hmmm. hmm. hhmmmmmmhhhmmm.
i thought it was interesting because i wonder what he was thinking.
VOTE: Meg
If possible, can you explain why you just moved your vote?
Please spell it out plainly if possible, unless you really really think that continuing to post cryptically will benefit town. If you do not do that, then barring someone else explaining to me why your cryptic approach to posting helps town in a sufficiently compelling fashion, I will interpret your actions and cryptic justifications for them as wolfish behavior.
i do not think discussing this benefits the town
Okay, this here seems confusing. Why is not discussing beneficial to town?
He moved his vote because he thought Val was hinting at being a mason but didn't want to out it.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:12 pm
by catboi
Are you still going through things right now?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:21 pm
by Save The Dragons
i think too many vanilla townies are claiming mason
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:22 pm
by catboi
Is that meant to be implying something about Val
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:22 pm
by Save The Dragons
in seriousness i'm not quite sure. i can find town justification for everyone but the val slot at the moment.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:23 pm
by Save The Dragons
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:24 pm
by catboi
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:25 pm
by catboi
I just spent about 3 minutes skimming val's other games and actually feel reasonably good about him being scum here.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:40 pm
by catboi
Val's not an illogical player and is fully capable of producing fairly strong analysis, his play today is wildly out of character if town.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:04 pm
by GeneralWu
Do you think val matches his scum meta?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:10 pm
by catboi
He doesn't have scum meta. And I'm extremely aware of the dangers of analyzing based on an extremely limited sample. But Val is such a verbose player that the difference is rather striking. I'll get into it tomorrow.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:20 pm
by Roden
Val played
way
differently this game than he did the last game we were in together. It's not enough to meta him but I just don't see town!Val making these kinds of gambits and fake claims. Nobody has quick hammered him yet either, so he's either scum, or StD and/or Shwinn are scum. Or maybe Val is scum and is getting bussed. Either way scum is mechanically guaranteed to be somewhere within those three.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:35 pm
by GeneralWu
In post 832, catboi wrote:He moved his vote because he thought Val was hinting at being a mason but didn't want to out it.
Wait, I can't seem to find where he said that.
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:18 am
by catboi
In post 844, GeneralWu wrote: In post 832, catboi wrote:He moved his vote because he thought Val was hinting at being a mason but didn't want to out it.
Wait, I can't seem to find where he said that.
Well, he hasn't confirmed it himself, but that was what I took the meaning to be, you can ask him yourself.
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:24 am
by catboi
Actually weird to not have addressed that today.
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:45 am
by Save The Dragons
that is indeed why i moved my vote from val
and why i voted val at the beginning of the day
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:23 am
by shwinnebego
In post 831, catboi wrote:Just for anyone keeping track, I think me/roden, me/generalwu, and generalwu/roden are ruled out as teams.
Counterpoint: they are extremely not ruled out
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:25 am
by shwinnebego
In post 843, Roden wrote:Val played
way
scum is mechanically guaranteed to be somewhere within those three.
Can you explain this more clearly
