Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s mostly that i want T3 or Testa and i don’t see DGB or Gamma as scum/scummy enough to be an elimination by this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Isn’t Shrek also an lurkbutt? Or do i just always forget reading his posts?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah Shrek is kinda low impact despite posting a fair bit I’d say
I can’t recall like a single opinion he’s had

[Nero Cain]

I could be terribly wrong but I like to swing for the fences and I just highly doubt scum is 3 lurkers and some rando

[CheekyTeeky]

I could be terribly wrong but I like to swing for the fences and I just highly doubt scum is 3 lurkers and some rando

Famous last words.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gamma are you still scumreading Nero?

[CheekyTeeky]

Shrek is either new town or scum playing at being new town which is lame so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Nero Cain]

If we assume dw is town then gamma has voted for nothing but town, he's not hunting elsewhere and is comfortable sitting on me. Basically he's doing the same things we are wagoning t3 for

[Almost50]

I feel like I want to go here now:

VOTE: ArcAngel9

I like this in principle. However, THIS is why I am hesitant to make a move on Arc so early. I would rather let her be sorted by night action if at all possible, but I won't be defending her either.

[NorwegianboyEE]

However, THIS is why I am hesitant to make a move on Arc so early.

I don’t have time to read another game, can you summarize?

[Almost50]

Honestly, yes/arc/t3 could be scum but it feels like scum are prob in ppls town reads

yessiree is in this game???

[CheekyTeeky]

That Tess locktown just came too early

Hey maybe it's role related

VC 1.9

T3 (6) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety, CheekyTeeky, Dragon of the West [E-3]
Testarossa (4) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill
Save The Dragons (1) - Testarossa
Gamma Emerald (1) - Save The Dragons

Not voting: KittyTacky

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-08-21 18:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

This doesn't add up. DGB says either Testa is a PR or MegA is and knows Testa is town or possibly both in a masonry or neighborhood but DGB is voting Testa?

Like if DGB were actually town afraid of my spewing of Testa/MegA TPR, wouldn't they have reevaluated at that point instead of just shading me for it?

[Roden]

I could be terribly wrong but I like to swing for the fences and I just highly doubt scum is 3 lurkers and some rando

I actually agree with this tbh. I'm fine with wagoning lurkers for content, but I don't think any of them should actually be today's elim. I'd rather do a flip that gets us more info.

[CheekyTeeky]

I could be terribly wrong but I like to swing for the fences and I just highly doubt scum is 3 lurkers and some rando

I actually agree with this tbh. I'm fine with wagoning lurkers for content, but I don't think any of them should actually be today's elim. I'd rather do a flip that gets us more info.

So you're not expecting to elim Testa today?

[Shrek]

for that notion i don't see nero and roden/t3 having partner equity in the slightest, which is why i'm putting him the highest outta everyone.

This doesn't add up unless you have T3 and roden as scum reads, which you didn't? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the logic?

in the hypothetical situation that one of t3 or roden is scum (or nero is scum), he would not be a scum partner with either of those two. am i using partner equity incorrectly?

Yes incorrectly in that Nero still has scum equity for other reasons. Like if I said Roden is town because he's not partnered with x and y then my logic is missing all the other teams he could be part of not including x and y.

oh i see. well in that case ill just say that i dont think any of nero, t3, or roden could be scum partners with one another based off of their limited interactions thus far

This kinda reads like TMI tbh. How do you know Nero vs T3 isn't scum theatre or that Nero vs me isn't distancing?

null:
roden - nero does have some point in that they came off as buddy buddy to t3, but that's pretty much the biggest and only point on them. i'd like to see him contribute to the thread and give out more reads at the moment because i want more info

I won't have a reads list until tomorrow, it's way too early for me to have one that's actually worth anything.

Why are you giving Nero's words so much weight, btw? He accused us of being scum buddies out of the blue, which you ignored, and now you're deferring to him to form your read on me?

I'd like some answers if you're here, Shrek.

1. youre literally saying right now (around the time the message is sent) that nero is hard tunneling you and he isnt backing down at all. t3 is (was?) also tunneled on nero and i dont think scum would be that obstinate with one another. upon reevaluation i actually do think that theres a chance that you and t3 would be partnered if t3 flips red, nero is just my top townread atm and i dont feel comfortable inserting him into any scum list rn

2. its literally a day 1 accusation why would i care about that. it sounds like youre trying to keep the focus still on nero/pressure me to target him based on his opinion on me in an omgus kind of way. im literally allowed to take his reads into account to form my opinions my guy

overall i feel like nero has been the subject of way too much pointless discourse to the point where scum could be tryin to use him as an easy miselim bait. my reads are as follows

town:
nero - i really dont see any possibility that he could be mafia here considering how hollow the case against him has been and the fact that people want to keep it on him and not pursue other avenues makes me think hes being pushed by scum atm
lq - has been extremely active and present so far, and in the case of a hypothetical scum lq i dont actually think theres anyone they could be partnered with unless theyre really good at distancing
cheeky - i dont entirely agree with the reads list they posted but its basically the same case as with lq where i cant see them being partnered with anyone

lean town:
norwee - i have a really good feeling about norwee's posts, i think hes actively trying to solve the game as it is but i would appreciate more reads from him
dwlee - yeah ive seen dwlee play before and this is town play from him
a50 - i like how hes been scumsolving so far, but hes kind of a question mark from me in the same way dgb is in that its hard to read him. he did answer and explain it to my question which i like but im gonna wait and see for now since he said he gets rolling later on
gamma - i like his series of thoughts based on his iso, it feels like a very townie thought process and like hes actively trying to scumsolve.

null:
dotw - gut feeling based on his post tone that almost makes me wanna put him in lean town, but i wanna see more reads from him the same as norwee
mega - has actively been trying to solve, but nero has raised good points against him. i would put him at lean town if it werent for his interaction with nero to begin with

lean scum:
roden - if t3 flips red i think that nero is conf town and roden is lockscum based on how it feels like roden has purposefully distanced himself from t3 (see his questions above)
std - really lazy if he is scum. it doesnt feel like hes trying to sort without being prompted but he does openly admit that which is points in his favor

scum:
t3 - for reasons everyone else has cited already
testarossa - wolfy pop in on a platter and i havent seen anything to change my opinion on her. probably lurking scum

inconclusive:
kitty
arcangel9
dgb - wanna say that hes town based on how it seems like hes actively tryin to sort and scumsolve but i am completely unfamiliar with his style of play

[CheekyTeeky]

MegA, Testa, T3, X

Am I getting closer yet?

[CheekyTeeky]

I wanted to say DGB but then I'd have to remove Testa and put a spicy replacement in.

[Roden]

I could be terribly wrong but I like to swing for the fences and I just highly doubt scum is 3 lurkers and some rando

I actually agree with this tbh. I'm fine with wagoning lurkers for content, but I don't think any of them should actually be today's elim. I'd rather do a flip that gets us more info.

So you're not expecting to elim Testa today?

I think Testa is an "ok cool" type flip if she's red and an "oh ok then" flip if she's green. Like, I'd be looking at Mega tomorrow if Testa flips green I guess, since it could've been TMI with the town lock. But that's kinda all I'd get and right now I think she only has a slightly higher chance to flip red than Arc for instance. I honestly don't expect everyone to settle for a Testa elim anyway, unless she continues to look scummy which at that point I'd feel better/more confident about it.

[CheekyTeeky]

MegA, T3, DGB, Roden

I just can't see Roden as scum.

[Roden]

Actually I kinda wanna reiterate that Shrek should be a competing wagon right now.

[Shrek]

Actually I kinda wanna reiterate that Shrek should be a competing wagon right now.

bruh

[NorwegianboyEE]

That post is a bit better from Shrek.
The reason i don’t put out a ton of reads is because i like to make myself easy to understand and thus mostly focus on key town and scumleans rather than share every single opinion i have on every slot. Even if i might still have and keep them in mind.

[Roden]

If I was scum buddies with DGB we'd be unstoppable lol. Exchange Mega for Dwlee and that's my dream scum team.

Are you hard town reading me Cheeky?

[Almost50]

However, THIS is why I am hesitant to make a move on Arc so early.

I don’t have time to read another game, can you summarize?

There's nothing much to read (from Arc) in that game. She wasn't playing.. she got wagon'ed.. she still didn't play.. she got eliminated.. she flipped Town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I also believe this is the optimal way to play larges, as if the game get’s too complex and polluted with posts and high information it’s harder to keep up and actually solve or get the needed support to focus on one scum player and get them eliminated.